Character : Creature

[cg81]

Sorry Some pics doesn't seem to work

here the links :


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/wire.jpg


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/wip-morphs.jpg

[cg81]

Damn

sorry for the links still don't work


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/wip-morphs.JPG

[TLy]

Really really great as usual my friend !!!

[koroko]

That´s actually a grrrreat wip...you got there life & character, for me that´s the highest compliment :buttrock:

I dont like the gross texture of the helmet, imo a better polished metal helmet will feet better, since it will contrast with the already grossyness feeling of facial features and feeling of the character...but this is mi opinion... :)

and free.fr seems to be nasty with us right now... willing to really see the other pics


Keep us posted

[Breyne]

That's awesome, really really great. Like the textures very much. He shows a hell lot of character. Facial motions are truly superb. One of the best faces I've ever seen.

[phoenix]

nice work ......but one question thou how did u use vray and brazil togather:shrug:

[cg81]

Thanks for your critics ans congratulations.


Actually Koroko i'm working on a polished metal helmet (a bit rusty) :-))

And Phoenix, i didn't myself very clear wheni said i used Vray and Brazil. In fact for the render of the different blendshapes i used Vray. And the bigger renders with depth to field are made with Brazil. (sorry for my enfglish but i'm from north of France so .. :-)) ).


i'll send as soon as possible a little animation and modifications i made on the helmet.

Thanks

[cg81]

As my links doesn't work. there is a wire

http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/wire.jpg

[cg81]

humhum .... forget the wire :-)) i'm truly sorry i'll post an other pic of wire later.

My last renders just for fun


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/wipbraz02.JPG

[koroko]

GORGEOUS!!

wire & ani will be nice inspiration for me :))


Keep it up, by the way, what is the background of this character, what is it supossed to be? a Troll?


cheers!

[Wonderer]

Very nice model and texture, and the facial expressions are certainly bringing the character to life.
:thumbsup:

[neversong]

hey, bozo.

I like the skin... and the tongue. they look good.

the facial expression is also great.

cheers. :thumbsup:

[tomaya]

Salut Bozo,là franchement ch'uis su'l cul,des expressions
comme ça,merde!Superbe travail.Comment tu le deforme
ton Gonze,FDD,bones ou juste du softselect de base,un
p'tit plug genre Hercule?ça m'interresse de savoir...
En tout cas chapeau bas!
Tomaya

[cg81]

Thanks all

I really appreciate your comments :-)



just for the little story neversong. the map of the tongue is actually a plastic paper i scanned :-)


Thanks again !


NB: i'm searching for a job so ....... if .... u know ... :-)

[wgreenlee1]

The tounge,to me,should be wider but this is a awesome model!:thumbsup:

[cg81]

Merci Tomaya pour tes compliments je sais jamais quoi répondre quand on me dit que c bien :-) alors ben .. merci quoi

Pour les morphs en fait je modélise bouche un peu ouverte la tete de base.
Après je skinne et je rajoute des bones stretchables pour simuler les muscles de la machoire.

Donc après j'ai une combinaison morphs skin qui donne des subtilités inéteressantes et je corrige le skin avec des morphs qui s'activent en fonction de l'angle du bone de la machoire.

Pour les expression genre sourire, pas content tout ça ui je travaille uniquement avec la merveilleuse soft selection de Max (si qql'un trouve le meme truc sur Maya pls je suis preneur :-)) ).

Du coup tu vas super vite. J'ai du mettre moins de deux heures pour faire mes morphs (les plus longs étant ceux de correction du skin).


Je ne sais pas si je suis super clair. j'ai essayé d'être le plus précis possible.


N'hésite pas à me dire si je m'explique super mal (j'ai l'habitude qu'on me fasse ce reproche :-) ).

Merci

[Zixe]

Only thing about this is that his teeth are whiter then most humans! lol.

Awsome model man!:thumbsup:

[tomaya]

Re-hi bozo,
je t'avais envoyé un "private mail" mais bon c'est très bien comme ça...
Si tu cherche une soft-selection sur Maya,tu n'en trouveras pas
c'est pas le style d'alias,sinon pour ta metod,elle est ecxellente
les déformations sont nickels! Le tout est de pouvoir tout contenir dans le "morpher" pour pas prendre le tete aux
animateurs si tu veux que ton bestiau bouge...Ce qui m'interresse
le plus ;ce sont les expressions,c'est le plus chaud à obtenir en
3D.Je pense que tu tiens quelque chose de mortel qui vient de
ton talent,ça ne s'invente pas...
Cheers

Tom

[cg81]

Thanks for your comments

for the tongue i 'll make a morph in order to make it stretchable :-)

and for the teeth i'll work on it promise ;-)


Here it is wire and bones for the skin (it may be a bit long to download sorry about that)

http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/wire02.JPG

[cg81]

RE re re tomaya :-)

Pour les expressions je te remercie je fais ca au feeling et je passe jamais des heures dessus que je te disais j'essaye d'aller très vite avec la soft sélection pour avoir quelque chose de spontané. (et re re re merci pour les compliments :-)) ).

Pour la soft selection j'ai entendu parler d'un plug en cours ... Byron je crois ....
Enfin si qql'un m'entend qu'il se penche sur la soft selection sur Maya c vraiment un gros atout de max en modeling ... enfin ... je trouve :-) (vous me direz il existe toujours FBX pour faire la passerelle).

[tomaya]

Mortel Bozo... ...mortel:thumbsup: Bien optimisé et
exploitable en prod.
:beer:

[cg81]

Pour la nostalgie (enfin c'était y a pas si longtemps).

Voici le lien d'une petite anime que j'avais faite y a un petit bout de temps sur un autre troll (on va dire que c un troll, moi meme je ne saurai pas le définir) avec un rendu un peu moins réaliste.

C'était un test d'anim et de rendu pour voir si tout fonctionnait bien.


Divx (576 ko) :


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/orc/video/orc.avi


I hope u'll like it

[richd]

beautiful texture, rendering and modelling. plz tell how the texure for the skin and rendering were done?
thnk

[cg81]

Hi,

Well

All as been made in max

modeling : polygon mesh (no patch, no spline)

rendering : Brazil (GI and 3 lights).

And postproduction by layers in photoshop (when i say by layers that means that u can apply this to animation in toshop or after effect)

[koroko]

I told you about the wires....:love:

Been staring at them for minutes....they´re soooooooooo clean...
and the character has...ahem...lots of character...
Someone will mention the use of tris there...but not me, i´m no purist, if it works it works, anyway I think tris are laid intelligently there....
About the ani, mkay he´s 2000 year old and the muscle of the lips are so worn away that are not stretching back as he close(lips look like fabric, from the movement)...lets forget it!! :) .....cause i´m loving the BROWS & the feeling is absolutlly like skin & muscle deforming..... BRAVO!


Thanks for some inspiration after siesta ;)

i wanna see more without paying if posible.... :)

[-=[RoX]=-]

woow
very nice

[cg81]

Hi Koroko

Thx for your comments :-))

Well for the tri. That's true that tri are not very nice when u smooth (except for Maya and now the smooth of max5 is better).

But Tri are really better at precise place on a face or body. That's more flexible. Quad are restrictive but i always do my best to get less tri i can :-)) .


For my old anime on my old character i know there is many things that don't work :-))

Simply because at this time i didn't take the time to simulate muscles and also correct the skin with active morphs. ( i made dthe modeling in 2 days and the skinning and blenshapes in one afternoon ... i really made it for fun very quick)


For the little story i wanted to take my old modelling and change the skinning and the blendshapes. But it was too hard to change
the original model. So i decided to make an other character it was easier for me :-) .


Thanx

and if you have others comments or critics about my work don't hesitate ;-)

[tomaya]

Eh eh! sacré Koroko,plein de talent lui aussi ! Well once again i've seen your work,les expressions sont géniales,super humaines en fait meme si le perso ne l'est pas tout à fait.Au delà de ça ,c'est
l'optimisation du mesh qui me semble le plus interressant,je suis
certain qu'un model comme celui-là marche en real-time sans problèmes:surprised .Bon moi ch't'en colle 5,pis de toutes façon
je fais ce que je veux avec mon clavier.Alors...:scream:

[Oscarini]

Yeah - kinda good textures - modelling - I guess one of most live/3D lookin' head I saw 4 the last time - I guess when there gonna be full model U could work on some more detail(modeling helmet...it loox to me 2 simple) - and U're ready 2 have Your style as many Pro does! :applause: :thumbsup:

[cg81]

Thanks for your comments i really appreciate

Hep merci bien pour les zétoiles Tomaya

Dis-moi je cherche des maps HDRI pour faire des rendus plus réalistes de mon perso d'ouc que je pourrais trouver ca dis moi ?


Et sinon je dois refaire le skin des muscles du visage :-( parceque j'ai oublié de mettre un look at sur les muscles ce qui fait que quand la tete se penche le skin par en couille (c très con ca non, mais je le saurai pour la prochaine fois).

Je fais au plus vite promis

Merci tout le monde pour commentaires !!

[HAL9000]

pas mal...on voit bien que tu t'inspire de ta culture nordique pour creer tes visages.
ce que j'adore sur ton post c que tout le monde parle français.
pour le look at c tres con en effet mais bon ya pire comme bourde (perdre 18 plans de compositing la veille d'un jury par exemple).
Sinon le casque est assez moche et je pense a mon humble avis qu'il rendrait super bien avec des pupilles dans les yeux.
t'as pas une version sans le casque?

I translate for american people: not bad...this guy seems to be as clever as Georges W Bush :drool:

[DoLeeP]

cool

[TLy]

(perdre 18 plans de compositing la veille d'un jury par exemple).

haha :applause:

c'est vrai je l avais oublié celle la
tiens y a meme des smileys pour les gens du nord :beer:

[DoLeeP]

after all he has some feeling

[cg81]

Hi everyone

i found the time for finishing my skin and make a quick animation to see what i have to correct in the skin and to create others blendshapes.

Your comments and critics are welcome specialy if u get ideas of blendshapes :-)

Tx

http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/videos/test04_pic.JPG



the video (divx 1,13 Mo)

http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/videos/test04bis.avi

[cg81]

oups

sorry


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/videos/test04_pic.JPG

[koroko]

coooooool!!!!

not much to say right now

:beer:

:buttrock:

keep it up!

[cg81]

Hi

Here my last renders. Still working on the teehs and the eyes. And i also have to work others face expressions.

I'm trying different kind of lightning. I'll post that later.

Hope u'll like.




Tx


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/03nightsmall.JPG


Big size :
http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/03night.JPG

[Terro]

Very cool:) love the texturing. Looks like Lester the Molester

[koroko]

bravo Bozo! :)

I´m aware they are lightning tests, but they look fantastic...

Texturing is great, even with that few variations on the color map...bump map there works great...

I´d love if you could post the maps, or share a little what your procedure was to paint the maps...

I´ll appreciate that...


Keep them coming, dont stop the fun!


Cheers!

[tomaya]

Bon! Je crois que t'es "ready to work",ch'uis un peu sur le cul
avec tes rendus motion blurés,mortel! I'll send you some news soon about working...:D

[cg81]

Thanks Koroko

The fact is that my maps are patchwork of skin scann i made and specialy a mix of different kind of picture i scan or find.

For example, the forehead come from Clint Eastwood. A other part is Gerard Depardieu or Jacques Dutronc :drool:

i've just made few corrections the skin of my creature is similary to Frankenstein to be true :-)

(the ral map makes 3000*3000)

http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/map-head.jpg

[cg81]

:wavey:




Merci Tomaya c cool mais tu sais pour le motion blur je n'ai rien fait d'autre que de l'activer et de régler ma focal (et l'opturateur pour régler le flou) et pis j'ai attendu que le rendu se fasse y a rien d'exceptionnel la dedans. faut plutpot dire merci à Brazil ;)

[tomaya]

Un petit principe de base Bozo: Ne dis pas merci à un soft quel qu'il soit,brazil n'y est pour rien,c'est toi qui a du talent... ...right?!
Et tu es doublement doué pour ton patchwork,ça, c'est du très
bon boulot! Bonne methode.
Pour le motion blur,si tu savais le nombre de prod ou il passe
à la trappe (le MB) alors que c'est l'element essentiel du confort
optique...
N'y vas pas trop fort,tu risque de te retrouver chez ILM:cool:

T

[tomaya]

Ah ouais pour les maps Hdri paul debevec.org ,un type
sympa hyper à donf là dedans,plein de bonnes maps sur son site
et pense a te récuperer hdrshop,un exe tout bete qui sert
à les compiler... ...vouala.

[cg81]

Ohohohohoh :-))

oula ILM tout de suite les grands mots :-))

Faudrait déjà que je trouve un taf en France c déjà un challenge.

Quand au MB c vrai que sur pas mal de prod ca passe à la trappe c con parce que il y a de très bons plugs pour le faire en post-prod. Enfin, le client est roi comme on dit.( quand c flou il a peut-être l'impression de pas en avoir pour son argent).

[tomaya]

Right! dis ? Je vois pas mes stars sur ton post... ....zarbi non?

[cg81]

Ui je sais pas

j'ai jamais eu de chance de tte façon :drool:

Meme quand on me met des stars ben je peux pas les voir ... snif

Mais bon de bonnes paroles sont toutes aussi motivantes :D

[cg81]

Hi everybody


This is a little test for the skin. I'm gone to work a displace map to add imperfections on the skin (like scares, things like that).
I have also to finish to the corner of the eye.


Hope u'll like it.

Any idea or critics to make

[cg81]

a better image are welcome.


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/sourire%20Comp.jpg



NB: rendered in Brazil, post-prod in toshop and after effect.

[koroko]

Thanks Bozo for the info,

The newest image texture is nicer i think, but i´ll drop a little the DOF, too strong...anyway they´re test, right?

Maybe adding more to the color map will be nicer...right now seems there´s almost none...

Slightly more dirty to the teeths could be nicer...

Keep it up, are you modelling the body?


:thumbsup:

[cg81]

Thanks Koroko for your advice. I'll do the corrections when i'll get the time :-). And yes it's just few tests. The final render will be for the "final" animation.

Yes i start the modelling of the body but i don't know yet what kind of clothes i could put on him. If u get an idea or references, i take it :-) .


Thx

I'll do my best for the next renders

[ahven]

very good facial expressions and skin textures :thumbsup:

[TuLe]

Amazing characters concepts my friend!
Very well done animations, the textures look really good i would just put some "dark spots" on the skin so it looks more disturbing...hehehe

Awesome job, give us some more vids!

[tomaya]

Hi bozo,Koroko is right ,carefull with the focus....not too strong.
Super boulot:thumbsup:

See you

:beer:

[BaranWearraan]

Very cool character !

Some stains on his skin would make it better maybe (not to obvious)

Looking forward to your progress in this one !

[kiko3d]

What exactly do you do for animate it? do you use morph, bones or what? I´m using 3dsmax too, and I tried to animate a guy I did before, but the morph sucks for that matter, can you explain me how you did it please, this is my mail kiko3d@hotmail.com please keep in touch.

[kiko3d]

And foir the skin do you use displacement maps or just bump?

[Jungle_Tintin]

Wow, Very cool facial expressions.
Can't wait to see the animation!:eek:
:beer:

[facial]

Interesting work. :applause:

[cg81]

:applause:
thanks for all your crits give me many ideas and others ways too look my creature.


I'll try to answer you Kiko as soon as possible (i'm searching job for the moment so i don't get much time for me). But to be clear, my method is simple :

1) I skin with few bones the head.

2) I add bones as muscles (stretchable bones) in the skin.

3) Finaly i make 2 blendshapes in order to correct the skin when the mouth is open and when it's close. (those two blendshapes works with the angle of the bones of the mouth in order not to active them manually)

4) make several blendshapes to get expressions

[kiko3d]

Thanks for your reply, but I still don´t get how you do it with blenshapes in max? You mean morphing? Don´t worry if you can´t answer me fast cause I got msn messenger and if your ok with that we can talk there: kiko3d@hotmail.com You know I need to learn from other people because here in spain is not easy to get a good education in this subject.

[cg81]

Hello there,

I've change my map. Put some color and little defauts on the skin.

I've many things to change (teeths, and many details to add on the skin, make the transluscence, etc...).

If u get ideas or critics about the textures and the lightning there are welcome :drool:


http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/color-test01.JPG


NB: sorry but i'll do biger renders with DOF later

[Dennik]

Great model, great texturing, and great expressions! can't believe it is not plugged yet. On the last attempt though the tongue seems like floating on the air. It should be much lower.
And maybe you've overdone it a little bit, with the bump and the skin pores.

[cg81]

Thanks for your critics it help me a lot.

For the bump i know it's a bit strong. And for the tongue i think it's a little problem of lightning because we can't see in the mouth. I'll try to fix that for the next renders.

Tx ;)

[Mikosaure]

This is a very good job, congratulations ! Tu iras loin petit scarabée. Nan franchement ça pète, bravo. Mais c'est vrai que sur le bump, tu y es allé un peu fort quand-même. Sinon y a rien à dire.
(Et vive les soirées sur Lille à boire des bières :beer:)

[Opeth]

wow... amazing. i love this... put the animation in repeat for 10 minutes strait :)
very good work.

[tomaya]

Salut Bozo, bon, je fais remonter ton post,t'as trop de talent,
putain d'expressions! Je commence à avoir des news pour des jobs cool ,je te tiens au jus...
Mais bordel, y faut faire une anim avec ton gonze!


:thumbsup:

[jamesjhunt]

looking damn good! well done!

[cg81]

Thanks all !!!

what else can i say

that's a damn good motivation when your work please people. So i'll do my best soon in order to get something funnier ;-)

Thanks

Merci Tomaya c trop d'honneur. Je ne pense pas mériter autant d'attention je connais pleins de gens qui sont supras talentueux alors bon. Mais merci ca fait plaisir ;)


i'll do a short animation when the body of my character will be finish, and if it's too long i'll do one for fun just with the head :hmm:

[cg81]

Hi there,

long time since my last visit on CGtalk.

I work now so i don't get much time to work on my character, but i've just finished the body. Here my last render test. Hope u'll like it.

http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/test01.jpg

http://bozo.lefou.free.fr/creature/night_test03.jpg

[3D-ima Green]

oooo i just love that character.. :D only teeth look too white to me..
umm or not hard to see in that dark image.. :D anyway i LOVE IT keeep yar work up dude :p peace

[orangefisk]

WOW!
This character is really awsome! Keep those updates comming - I love the shader dude!

[DeadPoole]

Nice exspressions...very creepy guy:eek:

[nobrain]

Love the pic, the dark one with light coming from behind, pretty damn awesome I'd say, the skin has improved in leaps and bounds from your first image where he looked like he was wearin lipstick.

rock on!

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