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pupii
09-09-2003, 09:49 AM
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Title: Wartburg 312 Coupe I.
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http://www.meselia.hu/pupi/w1.jpg
http://www.meselia.hu/pupi/w2.jpg
pupi

pupii
09-09-2003, 09:51 AM
http://www.meselia.hu/pupi/w3.jpg
http://www.meselia.hu/pupi/w4.jpg

bobtronic
09-09-2003, 10:14 AM
Hi Pupi,

I know this car and think you have done it very well.
A friend of mine has the Combi version. The coupe
is very rare. I am not sure about the front. Seems
a bit odd but it could be the perspective. This a very
nice model but I like your characters much more.

cheers, Bob

Ganimed
09-09-2003, 10:16 AM
Oh man, i love that car :thumbsup:

The shader looks great.
No critics at all.

Maybe you consider about an additional "dirty and rusty" version.

regards

Ganimed

ThirdEye
09-09-2003, 10:25 AM
very very good :applause:

I'd go for a rusty version too, something like this pics:

http://www.discreet.com/images/products/3dsmax/3dsmax5_beta/hi-res/3dsmax5beta_image1.jpg

http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/gallery/crx_old05signed.jpg

prayas
09-09-2003, 11:52 AM
Man pupii this made my day. You are my god for today.
Make me the "tourist" and "cabriolet" version please.
LOVE THIS ONE

:eek::eek::eek:

P..:

sebek27
09-09-2003, 11:53 AM
wow ! awesome work, you are a master pupii :eek:

ToBSn
09-09-2003, 12:22 PM
greate. really realistically :thumbsup:

Ganimed
09-09-2003, 12:46 PM
@ThirdEye_01

You should let the air out of the wheels from that last one.That might look even more realistic.

ThirdEye
09-09-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Ganimed
@ThirdEye_01

You should let the air out of the wheels from that last one.That might look even more realistic.



Those pics are not made by me :) The 1st one has been made by a 3DSMax betatester, the 2nd one by Grid, another maxer www.3dluvr.com/grid

AdamT
09-09-2003, 01:35 PM
Very nice car Pupii, but I'm glad you're going back to characters.

pupii
09-09-2003, 02:42 PM
OK I am making a rusty version:
1. I put it on the "junkyard" folder the c4d file.
2. wait cca. 2-3 years
3. rerender:)

Sorry carlovers, I going back to Bird Saga.

pupi

JamesMK
09-09-2003, 02:56 PM
That's a lovely car render. But you are wise in your choice to continue making your characters instead. A lot more creative!

bobtronic
09-09-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by pupii
Sorry carlovers, I going back to Bird Saga.

pupi

I would love to see more of your bird characters.
There is so much potential in the idea. Maybe an
eagle as the King Bird or a vulture as the financial
secretary. In any case I am looking forward for
more great pictures.

cheers, Bob

manlio
09-09-2003, 03:49 PM
Impressive Pupii really a cinema God and great aesthetic taste.
:bowdown: :applause:

michaeli
09-09-2003, 04:04 PM
Perfect!!!! :thumbsup:

ODoul
09-09-2003, 05:15 PM
Awesome work pupii, is the environment on the first render all 3D?? -- 3d_e

Peoples
09-09-2003, 05:20 PM
Unbelievable... Great work:thumbsup: Allthough Thirdeye said that cars are extremely easy to model once you master the modeling tools - I still haven't come anywhere near this quality.. But - then again - Pupii, and Thirdeye are in the league of their own...:D

manlio
09-09-2003, 05:51 PM
Hi Pupii, only a question. How much time did you spend to model this car and in which way this compares to the time in building ladybird? I'm just curious. Thanks.

JIII
09-09-2003, 06:24 PM
very nice, however i do agree this is a wonderful car but it just doesn't have the same "soul" as your characters posses.


Great work dude. Not too many cars this nice.

I wanna see baby bird and daddy bird :)

fdb
09-09-2003, 07:55 PM
Excellent work, kinda makes my current attempt at a car look...well pretty crap really.

Oh and at the risk of sounding like a brown noser, may i just say that i'm a great admirer of your work, some of which has proved a great source of inspiration for me when i'm feeling the "god why do i bother with it" blues :)

sebek27
09-10-2003, 05:52 AM
how do you setup your HDR pupii which hdr map?? is it using sky object ? the metal surface and the glass looks sooo good... i wonder what the presets are... great job !

ODoul
09-10-2003, 06:14 AM
Well, I happen to think that this has every bit the "soul" of your characters. How exactly do you give personality to a car? It's a beautiful render and an absolutely perfectly executed model. Front page material, IMO. Beautiful work. -- 3d_e

hawkbug
09-10-2003, 08:34 AM
Pupi, you are truely amazing! From "Earl Bird" straight to another master piece. Well done! We would love to have this one in the KotaPress October gallery.

Hawk Jones
www.kotapress.com

jddog
09-10-2003, 10:22 AM
wonderful work !
:applause:

jdd

Martin Kay
09-10-2003, 10:46 AM
I think you put your finger on the thing about car modelling Vs heads and that is that modelling cars is tedious and very long winded. Its why I have said that in all probability doing heads is easier. I'm currently modelling a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud, both inside and out. The detail bits of the interior are a welcome respite from the tedious plotting of the various body subtleties...and maing it all fit together. Couldn't construct it in anything other than HN's though.

ThirdEye
09-10-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by 3D_Explorer
Front page material, IMO.


Ditto! [plugged] ;)

Martin Kay
09-10-2003, 12:05 PM
...great car by the way, again, pupi!

SimonReeves
09-10-2003, 12:10 PM
great job, although in the first pic - the car looks a little odd, like a lack of perspective..

shame its that same damn hdr map I see again ;)

DoLeeP
09-10-2003, 12:30 PM
Front Page work
I like it alot
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

FranckSitbon
09-10-2003, 12:35 PM
Perfect!!!!!
:applause:

mastering3d
09-10-2003, 12:39 PM
Cool looking model i must say looks very real..
Your first one really well thats really cool then ..I no when I done an e-type car about 6 years ago that was a killer for me to do ..Done it all with nurbs but I did not no any better then...

Seeing as evey one is posting cars in barns his my one that I did five years ago i hope you dont mind...

Its a bit dated now tho...

http://www.mastering3d.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3DImages/barn.jpg

frameless
09-10-2003, 01:10 PM
wow great model you did there! I just started car modelling and for me its fun :)

Lem
09-10-2003, 01:41 PM
Very nice Wartburg. Clean modelling too.
Wanna do a Borgward Isabella Coupe next? ;)

Lem

michaeli
09-10-2003, 01:51 PM
Perfect!! :thumbsup:

graffb
09-10-2003, 01:57 PM
Szép munka!
A belsô is kidolgozott?

Az autó kabrió változata díjnyertes volt megjelenésének évében az USA-ban. :)

Napa!m
09-10-2003, 02:07 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

EZ BRUTÁLISAN JÓ!!!!!!

Az eddigi munkáid is büntettek, de EZ überkirály

:beer: :buttrock:

azazel
09-10-2003, 02:12 PM
First render looks a bit orthogonal (or at least too much like long telephoto lens), but second is plain beauty :) well done.

Youth
09-10-2003, 02:28 PM
Hi!!!!

Nagyon Ott van a kocsi!!!!
Graulálni tudok csak :) Nem csinálsz belőle tutort? vagy mi alapján csináltad mert én is kocsi modellezésbe kezdenék de nem tudom hogy kezdjem... Nem tudsz segíteni?

Előre is köszi!

:thumbsup:

???
09-10-2003, 02:30 PM
waaaooow

Wonderer
09-10-2003, 02:40 PM
Very cool car! And I agree with you there is nothing more boring and tedious, and though I designed my car and don't really need to folow a photo reference of a existing car, it still boring. Perhaps I'll finish by the end of the year. But back to the main subject, you cold try to create and designing yor own car, it certainly will be far more creative and fun, instead the modeling part, it will be always boring.
Anyway, congratulations, it is not by mere accident you're in Exposé 1. :beer:

Onno
09-10-2003, 02:40 PM
Brilliant second image, pupii, very nicely done!

I am not too fond of the first image, the car doesn't fit I think, too plastic looking + strange not matching reflections. Try a lower point of view so that the building reflects into the car, in stead of the HDRI map.

@Reeves: Lol, indeed.

Chabee
09-10-2003, 02:50 PM
Heee ember!
Tudsz valamit rosszúl csinálni is???
Gratulálok!!!
:applause: :applause: :applause:

cg81
09-10-2003, 03:10 PM
Amazing work !!!

i really like the rendering.


Really good job (what else can i say)


:beer:

Zanith
09-10-2003, 03:12 PM
Wow. Just amazing. Those capture such realism. Awesome aesthetic taste!

Kinjiru
09-10-2003, 03:19 PM
looks very real!

amazing!

You rule!

danRod
09-10-2003, 03:32 PM
looks great man...definately do a rusty look as well...or a time lapse animation with map morphing!!

Beastie
09-10-2003, 03:40 PM
Looks Great! The only crit I'd have is that it may be alittle too shiny with makes it appear to be plastic, giving a model car type look. Still, Impressive!

Abyssis
09-10-2003, 04:54 PM
This is "REAL" HiEnd, pupii :applause:



________________________________________
if I remember, I was owner of this car too !!!!!!
________________________________________

l-a-akira
09-10-2003, 05:14 PM
Nagyon Szép kösci.
De anyira utals autót csinánlni?
HDRI nekül probaltal egyet?

-=[RoX]=-
09-10-2003, 05:20 PM
damn
it's fantastic.
very good job.
looks like real photo

Jake-L
09-10-2003, 05:42 PM
The master strikes - again!

I think you have the gift to put that extra bit of "something" to your subjects - even when working in a "high boredom factor" genre (such as car pictures).

But now, your characters need you...:)

Ac0rN
09-10-2003, 05:45 PM
Thats great stuff :thumbsup:

JA-forreal
09-10-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by pupii
This is my first and at the same time my last serious car model. It's also
something to try. All my respect to those making car models, it's really a
hard , long and boring job. It's not for me, I think I go on with
characters.:)


pupi

Thanks for posting this wonderful render pupi!

Any hard work that you present here that you put much of your 3d/2d skills and time into is fulfilling. I can tell you right now when folks put up their work that is highly detailed I appreciate it. I know that they put great effort into their art. So it may have been boring but in the end your work will inspire others to do the same. Maybe they will add something more complex to their design portfolio. Or maybe a 3d hobbist will stick to his or her project on the weekends because they see your work and now know that hard work can pay off.

Great stuff!

qwatkins
09-10-2003, 05:52 PM
Only one comment, I think it was mentioned earlier, the shot where you are almost on the ground looking up at the car, you should see the tires deflecting/"squashing down" a bit to give the impression that the car is real and that the tires are made of rubber and not filled with concrete. All tires that support a few thousand pounds deflect some, especially these whitewall beauties.

Other than that, looks great

NMarzian
09-10-2003, 06:57 PM
Fantastic work! I did not know that Wartburg had such nicely looking cars. I have only seen the last model which was actual when the Wall in Berlin has fallen. :buttrock:

I love your style pupii. Awesome looking car model. Keep up that work. :beer:

phoenix
09-10-2003, 07:02 PM
man i love this car.......

Aldaryn
09-10-2003, 07:39 PM
Great work, as usual! ;)

It is nice to see cars here form this era, and especially from this specific side of the globe...

Some comments if I may...
The shadow under the poster like image is a bit too dark, IMO, it's not that bad, but this distracting look comes out really strong in the CGTalk first page thumbnail...
And the reflection on the windscreen from the panoramic environment on the first pic. seems to bee odd,... sorry, but it just feels odd, thats all.
Oh, and by the way: It is more than clear that you've been in the organic modelling business, assuming from your wireframe! But you've done it, and sone it more than averadge.

Excellent work!

P.S.: I would be happy to see some cars from you tuned up with your super ideas... :)

- A.

Trurl
09-10-2003, 07:49 PM
Elismerésem!
:beer:

Kenter
09-10-2003, 07:51 PM
Interesting cars,nice to see a different kind and style than the usual.But i would still like to see the Birds get a kid,a new character like that would be cool.:beer:

???
09-10-2003, 08:41 PM
Simply amazing @!:eek:

xynaria
09-11-2003, 12:43 AM
LOL that one was on my list of 'to do'..though now if I do I'll do their coupe that is a bit like a Gull Wing Merc.
Great job though indeed!!! you done it proud and choosing a Wartburg to do is an excellent choice in my book. WOOF WOOF!!! :beer: :)

munkY
09-11-2003, 01:01 AM
very nice as usual pupii :beer:

but it feels like the perspective is somehow weird

SangHanArt
09-11-2003, 02:09 AM
:drool: :drool: :drool:
I really like the renders. Im sure it's tedious work since you have to be more precise. And creating those smooth edges just the way you want them is a pain. Keep it going!

Matt
09-11-2003, 02:34 AM
You texture work is masterful.

DoLeeP
09-11-2003, 04:34 AM
its realy good but its too clean this is not true

this is old car no way that u have clean one like this :applause:
but I :love: it

cermit
09-11-2003, 09:56 AM
looks fantastic

Throbberwocky
09-11-2003, 10:07 AM
Wow ... really excellent model and rendering!

I'd love to see the reflection map you used for the chrome. Are you willing to share it? It looks awesome!

ZVAN
09-11-2003, 10:39 AM
nice,, good choice choosing that car to model, and well doned! nice shaders lightings... juz the 1st pic looks flat.. =) :applause:

derelict
09-11-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Matt
You texture work is masterful.

U mean the walls and the pavement/road right? Yup

lanceyu
09-11-2003, 11:30 AM
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sebek27
09-11-2003, 06:21 PM
come on pupii, what hdr map did you use and how did you set it up ?? looks so good..

l-a-akira
09-11-2003, 06:54 PM
The top one looks like the Uffizi probe to me.

http://www.debevec.org/Probes/uffizi_probe.hdr

future14
09-11-2003, 09:46 PM
hey!!! great work buddy.......

awesome.......

Strob
09-11-2003, 10:33 PM
You are the best!

I agree about the first car lacking a little bit of perspective.

So you are doing a Birds Saga?!! Cooooool! :thumbsup:

I want to see other birds. (I have seen 2 to date). And I preciously keep my Siggraph's Exposé cards.

Keep the good artwork!

Spozzfreund
09-11-2003, 11:15 PM
Great work! :bowdown:

xynaria
09-11-2003, 11:37 PM
Re: the perspective of w1
I might be wrong on this but I suspect the BG is a photo..if it isn't then exceedingly well done. My guess is also that if it is, (or if not then the virtual lens would presumably set to similar), it was taken with a lens at over 100mm (possibly 200mm) hence a perspective that appears somewhat flattened. The human eye is general held to be the equivalent of 48mm (though some argue this) and is generally held to be the reason that most standard fixed lenses are 50mm. :)

draconix
09-11-2003, 11:40 PM
Very beautiful, realistic render.

Qslugs
09-11-2003, 11:50 PM
On the way home from work yesterday, I saw one of thoes cars (the blue one) parking in downtown Chicago. Or one that looked very close to it. No lie.

bobtronic
09-12-2003, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Qslugs
On the way home from work yesterday, I saw one of thoes cars (the blue one) parking in downtown Chicago. Or one that looked very close to it. No lie.

Then it came by a long way from East-Germany.
There are not much left in good condition :(

Bob

pupii
09-12-2003, 11:57 AM
yes poth pict have some problems, I dont want to put finished gallery, it doesnt motter:)
yes background a wrong perspectivic pfoto, I quick distorted in photosop.:blush:
Sebek: Im used a sky object, good old uffizi probe, but not HDRI (donno why not!), just Lowdri more info this page download section: http://www.cartesiuscreations.com/

pupi

RiZ
09-12-2003, 08:17 PM
excellent work there pupii !!

sebek27
09-14-2003, 05:05 PM
just Lowdri more info this page download section: http://www.cartesiuscreations.com/

so you didn't use hdri ?? what do you mean Low ? there is no info no this on caresiuscreations thx hope you can explain a bit more?

Kozhe
09-14-2003, 08:44 PM
Is that a poly model or a nurbs one?

It looks impressive :)

mariamaria
09-14-2003, 11:17 PM
Nice images,specially the second one.
I like a lot the colors you've used, and the lighting of course!

Ron Walker
09-20-2003, 05:19 PM
Simply superb work
Very well done. Just how long did it take you to model and where did you get your reference material from?:)
Ron Walker:thumbsup:

sixthe45
09-21-2003, 06:28 AM
312
5/5.

giobianco1
09-22-2003, 10:23 AM
very beautiful images! compliments :applause:

lildragon
09-22-2003, 07:17 PM
Very nice, the lighting doesn't seem accurate tho, well unless you're in London during the day ;) but other than that you did a fine job. Depending on the day you're shooting for you might want to pump it up somemore, unless you want that overcast appearance.

You have received the CGtalk choice award .Please feel free to display this image anywhere you like! Nice work!

upon receiving this award, it guarantees you a spot in the cgtalk gallery hall of fame (http://gallery.cgtalk.com) - which you are now placed

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P.S. Please email me @ tito@cgnetworks.com so I can send you the award .psd file

salud

Frenkie
10-30-2003, 11:55 AM
Hi!

szevasz! nagy tetszik az autüd és gratulálok a díjhoz.megszeretném kérdezni hogy milyen referenciáról dolgoztál?én is belevágok egy Chevy impalába de csak makettem van róla.te miről csináltad?

FR.

solbraver
11-25-2003, 08:28 PM
Imagine if he liked doing cars? It is perfect dude! really great!
'
I assume you dis this in a couple of hours and you were bored. you are god dude !! this is perfect!!!:bounce:

dannyvdm
12-10-2003, 09:56 PM
that wartburg is soooo good !!! :beer:

my compliments !!!!

my love goes to trabant & wartburg. so keep on making wartburgs en trabi's !!! i realy like that.

:applause:

yangmiemie
12-11-2003, 08:01 AM
great work,,,,
i like it!!!:love:
:bounce:

gomelchuck
01-15-2004, 04:53 PM
Hello,

I am currently modeling a similar style car, a 1949 Nash American, it's abit bigger but has similar curves as yours. I wanted to ask you how you approached this vehicle to model. Did you model it as a whole then break it up into the car parts or did you treat each part as a unique model. Plus, what renderer and shading techniques did you use? BTW, incredible work!!!

Skyraider3D
01-16-2004, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Martin Kay
I think you put your finger on the thing about car modelling Vs heads and that is that modelling cars is tedious and very long winded. Its why I have said that in all probability doing heads is easier. I'm currently modelling a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud, both inside and out. The detail bits of the interior are a welcome respite from the tedious plotting of the various body subtleties...and maing it all fit together. Couldn't construct it in anything other than HN's though.


So true! Details on cars never seem to end!
I've modelled numerous heads for a game, and although I admit it was low-poly stuff, you could get away with so many things and have it still look good.
With cars, but also planes and anything technical for that matter, you can't do that. You have to get every curve just right, or else it just won't look right. And finding reference can be a nightmare too. I spend at least a quarter of my time to make a model looking for and through reference material. Endlessly comparing, measuring, and so on. And there are always areas you can never ever find a good picture or drawing off, yet still have to model it as it will be shown. At those moments you should have a fair understanding of vehicle technology, or else you're bound to mess up.
On the upside, when you do have lots of reference material at your disposition, you have something to measure your work against. And also, when your "audience" are other artists (such as here) you can get away with some inaccuracies. In my case when doing aviation book illustrations, my audience are usually experts on the subject and every flaw will be picked up on.



I can't for the life of me remember if I ever replied to this topic already, but in any case the Wartburg is EXCELLENT. The perspective on the first pic is a bit odd (almost isometric?) but the second image is stunning!! Just like an oldfashioned commercial. Great stuff!!!

DoLeeP
02-12-2004, 11:32 PM
just amazing I love it:thumbsup:
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

LaoDong
02-13-2004, 12:37 AM
I like it

DTT
03-15-2004, 07:58 PM
Szep lett nagyon :D:beer:

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