View Full Version : SATA II RAID 0 vs single SATA III for HD editing
evanfotis 04-06-2010, 07:43 PM Hi,
as the title suggests, I'd like to hear any opinions, ideally from people have actually tested these config's in real world projects.
Our upcoming project is a 1min clip in full HD, using Weiss camera with 2Kfps scenes, plus heavy compositing.
Machines are on Vista64 and Win7 64.
What setup would give 260MB/sec of sustained through output in your opinion?
Could a single 2TB SATA 3 drive on the appropriate board reach these speeds?
How many SATAII drives in RAID 0 would be required for that speed?
thanx in advance
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olson
04-06-2010, 09:18 PM
The speed of the interface is irrelevant because modern disks have not even breached the limitations of the original SATA interface. To get 260 MB/s sustained sequential read count on needing a minimum of three modern 7200 RPM SATA disks in RAID 0. The more the better!
meleseDESIGN
04-06-2010, 10:45 PM
Short=Yes, if your board has at least an SATA 2 controller on board (most recent boards have)!
;)
Could a single 2TB SATA 3 drive on the appropriate board reach these speeds?
evanfotis
04-06-2010, 10:53 PM
Aren't SATA3 disks faster than SATA2 ones, so in conjunction with a sata3 interface it could reach these speeds?
meleseDESIGN
04-06-2010, 10:58 PM
Yes, they are (600MB/s) double as fast as SATA 2 disks.
SATA Rev. 2.0 HDDs offering 300MB/s when using them on an SATA 2 Controller.
You wont have any issues connecting an SATA Rev. 3.0 HDD to an SATA 2 Controller, they are downwards compatible.
;)
Aren't SATA3 disks faster than SATA2 ones, so in conjunction with a sata3 interface it could reach these speeds?
dmeyer
04-07-2010, 01:08 AM
Yes, they are (600MB/s) double as fast as SATA 2 disks.
SATA Rev. 2.0 HDDs offering 300MB/s when using them on an SATA 2 Controller.
You wont have any issues connecting an SATA Rev. 3.0 HDD to an SATA 2 Controller, they are downwards compatible.
;)
SATA 3 interface speed theoretical capacity is around 600MB/S but I have never seen a single drive, SATA 2 or SATA 3 sustain anything over about 100MB or 120MB/s - unless we are talking SSDs.
The OP is going to need at least 3 HDD's in RAID 0 to get consistent 260 MB/s. If you run them over SATA2 you'll have to run them over 2 or preferably 3 channels. If you run them over SATA3 you could get away with running all of them over 1 channel. How well your controller deals with this may differ however.
olson
04-07-2010, 01:21 AM
Yes, they are (600MB/s) double as fast as SATA 2 disks.
SATA Rev. 2.0 HDDs offering 300MB/s when using them on an SATA 2 Controller.
You wont have any issues connecting an SATA Rev. 3.0 HDD to an SATA 2 Controller, they are downwards compatible.
;)
That's just the interface bandwidth, not how fast the heads can read data from the platter. No way a single disk can push 600 MB/s anytime soon. The original SATA specification maxes at 150 MB/s which 99% of the disks out there can't do anyway. Seems like SATA III is a bit premature, and irrelevant in this case. Like I said before, count on a minimum of three modern SATA disks (1TB+ because higher density means higher throughput at the same RPM). Cheers!
EDIT: This is the fastest SATA disk out there that I know of, and it barely reaches 150 MB/s peak (average is less).
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd6000hlhx-velociraptor-600gb,2600-5.html
meleseDESIGN
04-07-2010, 01:27 AM
Oops!, of course at least 3 SATA HDD's in RAID 0.
Thanks for correcting me!
;)
SATA 3 interface speed theoretical capacity is around 600MB/S but I have never seen a single drive, SATA 2 or SATA 3 sustain anything over about 100MB or 120MB/s - unless we are talking SSDs.
The OP is going to need at least 3 HDD's in RAID 0 to get consistent 260 MB/s. If you run them over SATA2 you'll have to run them over 2 or preferably 3 channels. If you run them over SATA3 you could get away with running all of them over 1 channel. How well your controller deals with this may differ however.
meleseDESIGN
04-07-2010, 01:31 AM
Oops!, of course at least 3 SATA HDD's in RAID 0.
Thanks for correcting me!
;)
That's just the interface bandwidth, not how fast the heads can read data from the platter. No way a single disk can push 600 MB/s anytime soon. The original SATA specification maxes at 150 MB/s which 99% of the disks out there can't do anyway. Seems like SATA III is a bit premature, and irrelevant in this case. Like I said before, count on a minimum of three modern SATA disks (1TB+ because higher density means higher throughput at the same RPM). Cheers!
EDIT: This is the fastest SATA disk out there that I know of, and it barely reaches 150 MB/s peak (average is less).
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd6000hlhx-velociraptor-600gb,2600-5.html
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