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olson
04-04-2010, 07:45 AM
In the next few months I'll be upgrading my current workstation for some freelance work (RealFlow simulation and rendering). Currently I'm using a dual socket F system with 16GB of memory and Opteron 2352 processors (8 core total at 2.1GHz). Its served me well for the last few years (upgraded from dual core processors along the way) though its at the end of its rope in terms of processing power and upgrading to the six core Opteron 2400 series doesn't seem worth it at this point. The case (Lian Li PC-201), power supply (SilverStone ZU1200M (http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=ZU1200M&area=)), disk drives, and all other general components will be used again.

I'm considering a quad socket G34 motherboard (Tyan S8812 (http://www.tyan.com/product_SKU_spec.aspx?ProductType=MB&pid=670&SKU=600000180)) and using Opteron 6128 processors. Between the board and processors it would be about $2,200 ($1,000 for board, $300 for each processor). Seems like the biggest bang for the buck giving 32 cores at 2.0 GHz. Memory on top of that would be about $1,100 for 32GB. After 18-24 months down the line I'd look at upgrading it to the future 16 core Opteron processors using the same socket (like I upgraded to quad cores on my current setup) which would be 64 cores at whatever clock speed (like 1.8-2.0GHz).

Licenses for multiple processors and cores is a non-issue. By the time I build the system RealFlow 5 will likely be available (licensed per machine instead of per core), I use Linux so Window Server is unnecessary for the quad sockets, and Mantra has no limit on the processor or core count for rendering.

Long story short, I'm looking for suggestions if there's a bigger bang for the buck in the $3,500 range for multithreaded tasks. Anyone have experience with the new Xeon 5600 series? A dual Xeon 5650 upgrade would come out to about the same price with 12 cores at 2.66GHz. Which would you go for? Cheers!

meleseDESIGN
04-04-2010, 08:08 AM
Your case is incompatible with the 4-way motherboard, look where the I/O area is located.
Just something I have noticed as I ran through your post.

I have seen a few benchmarks with Dual Xeon 5600 serie processors and they are quiet good. Compared to the Opterons and their higher clock rate - what is positiv for single threaded tasks too -they are worth it. I upgraded in the late 2009 to the Xeon 5500 Serie and I wont upgrade for new Xeon 6-cores, neither for Opteron 6100. I'm waiting until 8 or 12 core Xeons are coming, till then I stay with what i have right now.

;)

Srek
04-04-2010, 09:38 AM
Check the physical dimensions of the board (16.2"x13" (411x330mm)), you will be hard pressed to find any case that holds this.
Many of the Tyan server boards only fit in special server cases.
Also the board will need registered memory modules.
Cheers
Björn

imashination
04-04-2010, 12:37 PM
What is it that you want to actually be faster? Going from a 2GHz 8 core machine to a 32 core machine, ok this makes sense for a render node, but I wouldnt want such a slow single core speed for a workstation these days.

With the exception of render speeds, you wont notice a single difference between that new machine and the one you have right now.

Srek
04-04-2010, 01:19 PM
With the exception of render speeds, you wont notice a single difference between that new machine and the one you have right now.
You forgot that the new machine will be a lot louder and hotter :)

meleseDESIGN
04-04-2010, 05:29 PM
You forgot that the new machine will be a lot louder and hotter :)

Loudness and heat can also have positiv aspects, but if we talk about real power eater you can't convince me to buy this machine - also not for 500$ extra. I would probably pay twice as much back to my electricity provider in the end.

;)

olson
04-05-2010, 02:18 AM
Thanks for the input everybody. I didn't see that its SSI-MEB form factor, it says its SSI-EEB (EATX) on the motherboard index page (http://www.tyan.com/product_board_list.aspx?cpuid=4&socketid=24&chipsetid=53) which is why I thought it would fit. That makes the whole deal less appealing since I wouldn't be able to use my existing case, and the cheapest I could find to support that motherboard is $450. Back to the drawing board. :shrug:

meleseDESIGN
04-06-2010, 06:46 AM
Maybe there is an SSI-EEB Version coming in the future.
I know tyan or supermicro built one for a 4-way socket F.

;)

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