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Finkster
09-08-2003, 08:16 AM
Hi there.
This is part of an image I have been working on and off with for quite a while. This was the first project I worked on with Lightwave so I thought I might post here. I've returned to hopefully finish it off, starting with shading and texturing of the old guy:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/cmoloney/Gramps/WIPcomposite.jpg

Any advice would be welcomed! With a bit of luck I'll finish it pretty soon (am I the only one with a hard disk full of half-finished projects?)

Cheers.

Facial Deluxe
09-08-2003, 08:28 AM
It looks good and expressive on the modeling part :) I'd say the textures need works, too much colored yellow/red, be softer IMHO
But looks promising :)

Finkster
09-10-2003, 09:52 PM
Thakns for the tips! You're right indeed, there was too much colour coming out in his face. I've adjusted the saturation of face map and updated above image. Hopefully the colouring is alittle more suitable.
Thanks.

Philours
09-10-2003, 10:50 PM
I agree with Facial Deluxe on the comment.
The modeling is quite nice, the character has the good expression of a tired old man but i find that the texture dosen't fit the character.
The ear is a bit strange too. There is a strange junction with the head (too obvious) and it's upper part seems to be too long it gives the feeling that it has been stretched.
The wrinkles under the eyes are a bit strange too, maybe you should try to round them a little for them to follow the eyeball shape.
Concerning the textures, try to reduce the size of the skin grain which is too big and looks like leather more than human living skin.
Except this, i like it, particularly the tortoise-like neck shape. :)

Zarathustra
09-11-2003, 12:26 AM
He looks like he has jaundice (sp?). Knock back the yellow.

kretin
09-11-2003, 12:40 AM
Can I suggest more wrinkles? The character is a little contradictory at the moment, the texture, hair and ears suggest a quite old man, but the smoothness of the skin suggests a much younger man. If you give him some deepset lines in his cheeks and neck I think it would make a big difference...

but I really like what you've done so far....

chikega
09-11-2003, 02:44 AM
I guess the red areas are supposed to be small arterial capillaries that you see on some older individuals - might need a closeup to be able to critique fully.

You might want to vary the specularity a tad - the nose and cheeks could be a bit shinier.

Finkster
09-11-2003, 07:06 AM
Thanks for the very helpful advice.
I think the yellow tinge to his face must be coming from the light probe, as there's really not much yellow in the colour map. Some test renders should sort it out.

Philours : Your right about the ears looking odd where they meet the head, I think I've sorted it out somewhat now. I think I'll stink with the large size though, I'm going for the big floppy ears that many old fellas have - albeit somewhat exaggerated.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/cmoloney/Gramps/Ears.jpg


kretin : Yep more wrinkles needed. I'm trying to find the right balance bewteen a cracked up piece of leather and a believable looking amount of wrinkes. Apperently I've not found the right balance yet ;)

chikega: That is indeed capillaries on his face. It's not detailed though - I don't intend any shots closer that this. They textures are painted to a certain scale, if you know what I mean.

More updates soon, hopefully:wavey:

Philours
09-11-2003, 09:20 AM
The ears are looking much better this way. There was no problem with the size of them in itself but with the proportions. The new ones are nice !
:thumbsup:

Finkster
11-04-2003, 09:44 AM
I finally got round to re-working the textures for this chap.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/cmoloney/Gramps/example1.JPG

http://members.lycos.co.uk/cmoloney/Gramps/example2.JPG

http://members.lycos.co.uk/cmoloney/Gramps/example3.JPG

I'm fairly happy with them, but I'm here to learn, so please tell me your impressions or how they may be improved.

Cheers:thumbsup:

pixelranger
11-04-2003, 10:11 AM
Looks great so far. Very nice character. The textures have become great too. The only thing I'd fix is that it seems the edge of the lower lip is a bit hard towards the corners of the mouth. I think he'd look better if you smoth them out a bit. This will also strenghten the impression that he's an old man.

Finkster
12-12-2003, 09:33 PM
I've finally got round to putting this guy into a scene. I'm pretty happy with it, but would love to hear anyones thoughts or advice.

Old Sleeper (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=109370)

Cheers.

ptaverner
12-12-2003, 09:46 PM
GREAT job! This scene should make front page!

Peter

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