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elfufu
05-23-2002, 03:05 AM
OK heres a WIP of my scene. i hope i have time to finish it as it will take me some time. Ive never entered a challenge so this is my rookie shot. lets see what happens..



CHILD LOST IN THE WRONG FORREST

elfufu
05-23-2002, 04:04 AM
working from the top down. heres the tree a bit more defines as well as the troll.

elfufu
05-23-2002, 05:21 AM
characters starting to appear

elfufu
05-23-2002, 05:47 AM
miracle grow

Foloking
05-23-2002, 06:01 AM
wow, Nice start! I like your character! :bounce: Good luck!

elfufu
05-23-2002, 06:42 AM
heres some early lighting tests, theres still ALOT of things missing . this is 3 1/2 hours of work so far. i'll continue tommorow.. The hands and small details will make a big difference, the lighting is still off but im figuring out how to make it work....



thanks folo

Kirt
05-23-2002, 09:04 AM
I like it! It's got a real creepy kinda' storybook feel to it.

You might want to make the path a bit more narrow in the distance though.

puddlefish
05-23-2002, 09:11 AM
Good start, the only thing I'd suggest would be to not just cut and paste a single tree for the forest, but have different ones; define the character on tghe road a little more, as it's not clear at the moment if it's a male/female child/adult; and finally, alter your brushes a bit so as to avoid that photoshop airbrush look.

keep us posted!

elfufu
05-23-2002, 01:12 PM
youre right i am going to change the trees i just put them in real quick to see how the composition would work. i have never used any other PS brush i will experiment and see, the character below is not even 1% completed, the whole thing is FAR FROM DONE. thanks :)

KOryH
05-23-2002, 04:04 PM
Hey I like it!

Koma
05-23-2002, 05:01 PM
yah cool ,good character

elfufu
05-23-2002, 06:17 PM
a little further along still needs work below on the ground, especially the grass, and then for last the poor victim, should it be a boy or girl? not sure yet... maybe a girl ...im going to add more trolls to the tree too make it look like a whole community. I also notice that the trees need to be darkend towards the back they are all the same color preety much thats no good, i'll fix that tonight.:)

KOryH
05-23-2002, 06:24 PM
cool,
Make it a boy with his dog.


Is it just me or do you feel a little neglected here on the 2D challenges. I feel like the red headed step child that no one talks to at family get toethers.

elfufu
05-23-2002, 06:26 PM
totally we are so not loved...lol, but thats ok because from what ive seen the best 3D artist are the ones that can pick up a pencil and let it rip...

KOryH
05-23-2002, 06:31 PM
Amen Bro!

hypercube
05-23-2002, 07:52 PM
egad, I'm dyin' trying to keep up with all the threads on this one, let alone the 2D..:argh:

Just wanted to add a "looks cool" anyway tho, because it does.

I think one of the reasons there isn't more crossover is at least for me, all I can do is sit back and admire, like you said, there are far less people who can bust out righteous 2D and 3D..though all of them seem to be in this forum..:p

Oh and I guess if it matters, I vote for the boy too..just leave the poor dog alone :D

Russo
05-23-2002, 08:13 PM
coooool :surprised

elfufu
05-23-2002, 08:31 PM
not much of an update but added some simple atmosphere to the trees.. i hate trees. they are a pain in the butt.. am i putting too many posts? this is starting to look like a tutorial..hehe


thanks for the comments i think the poor victim is going to have to be a boy majority rules

jeroentje
05-23-2002, 08:59 PM
He man! Just found this thread. Must've been browsing this site with my eyes closed. Looks great! Specially love the light of the candle shining at the guy in the middle.

I'm just wondering about something in you composition...
For balance, it really needs something on the road further away. See what you do with it.

I'll keep following this one.
jeroentje

elfufu
05-23-2002, 09:03 PM
like what ? i was thinking of extending the height to show the sky better with the moon etc. im not really sure...any ideas would be appreciated

jeroentje
05-23-2002, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by elfufu
like what ? i was thinking of extending the height to show the sky better with the moon etc. im not really sure...any ideas would be appreciated

No, don't put more sky in it. The problem is that when you color the boy, all interesting parts are focussed in the left bottom.
thats why it needs s.thing in the opposit corner. like his mother shouting don't go in the forrest after 12. Or a gate to the park, or a castle. or a dog-wagon and the dog is runing fromthe boy. Or more gnomes.

jeroentje :beer:
sorry 4 the typos, thats the scotch talking

elfufu
05-23-2002, 09:28 PM
haha wow you got into that one! hahaha i like the dog running away idea..if i put the mother in it might take away from the whole solitude in the middle of nowhere i feel. more gnomes would be cool......hmmmmmm you got me thinking....

elfufu
05-24-2002, 06:49 AM
added one more goblin.. hes hard to see left hand side. kinda cute little monkey guy....I gotta tell you compared to the past 2D challenges this ones looks very seriously juicy......lots of good stuff

Sangotten
05-24-2002, 11:37 AM
Looking very good!!!
I can't really crit about it yet but it looks like it is coming along nicely!!!

:thumbsup:

KOryH
05-24-2002, 04:24 PM
Those goblins are great!

elfufu
05-24-2002, 08:34 PM
hey koryh your portfolio is just amazing.... blew me away...i have to stop making web sites and do more illustrations..

Sleepless
05-25-2002, 03:54 AM
This is moving along great. I commend you for the really interesting viewpoint:) it's never easy for me to break out of the norm. Cool lighting.

As far a critique, none really.... but, I can only mention the type of problem areas I would struggle with if I was doing this piece. That would be.......watch out for the proportions of the kid, it's tough sometimes not to make them look like tiny adults. when you add in the radical perspective it makes even more difficult.


Sleepless

elfufu
05-25-2002, 10:33 AM
hey sleepless, i know what you mean about that being the hard part, believe me its no coincidence that thats what im leaving for last...perspective is hard and the perspective i chose i think is even harder...thanks for the comments:beer:

Knut
05-25-2002, 11:13 AM
Hello!

Very nice picture you have there. Original and interesting. I have one comment on the composition. If you look at the attached picture you can see i've pointet out an imaginary line that draws too much attention. Suggest that you bend the arm of the candelcarrying goblin a bit. I think if you did something there, just a small adjustment, you will have a great picture.

Regards Knut

Ripley
05-26-2002, 07:53 PM
hey I like your troll guys. Now I want to see a WIP in the 3d modelling section!

elfufu
05-26-2002, 07:55 PM
"""""RIPLEY......hey I like your troll guys. Now I want to see a WIP in the 3d modelling section!""""

my 3D work is not very good. unfortunately! :thumbsdow however i am practicing that alot so i will post some soon. i just have to finish this 2D one first.....

elfufu
05-27-2002, 09:26 AM
well i thought by the weekend id be done but friends came from out of town so its been beer after beer for me this weekend.:beer: however i have managed to add some changes i figure im 96% done. not so sure about the victim... I have attached a

HIGH RESOLUTION VERSION IS HERE:
http://www.warproductions.com/trollsfull.jpg

i added a little shout out on the kids tshirt to the folks at CG channel for such a great site. you'll probably need to view it on the higher rez version..:wavey:

elfufu
05-27-2002, 10:38 AM
even though im not done if you wanna see how this illustration is being made so far click to view this short 400kb quicktime movie showing the process. its so-so quality...but hey 400k is smaller than most free porn vids

http://www.warproductions.com/trolls-making.mov

KOryH
05-31-2002, 05:25 PM
Cool. why didn't I think of that!
It's so neat to see how people work and the process.
thanks for sharing

elfufu
05-31-2002, 05:29 PM
uuuh this thread was getting spider webs, KORYH youre the first reply in like a week!! , i need to finish this thing already... so i can get replies again:annoyed:

jeroentje
05-31-2002, 06:04 PM
:bounce: !!! go elfufu !!! :bounce: !!! go elfufu !!! :bounce: !!! go elfufu !!! :bounce:

jeroentje :)
(I'll go nuts if I have to draw another leaf...)

ZrO-1
05-31-2002, 07:32 PM
Elfufu, what a fantastic piece you've got here. Man I'm pissed that I've been missing all of the great work here. It seems to me that as far as artistic work and the quality of the pictures themselves this 2D stuff here is on a higher level than most of the 3D stuff. I really love your piece. It tells such a story without a word.

I guess I'm going to really kick a$$ on my 3D piece to get up to your artistic quality.

elfufu
06-02-2002, 05:37 AM
ALMOST done i might add some things but i doubt it if anything i'll do another drawing all together

Kirt
06-02-2002, 10:17 AM
Done? But you have 4 more weeks! At least add some more definition to the main troll guy in the middle so he's more of a focal point.

elfufu
06-02-2002, 06:04 PM
yeah youre right i'll work on it more. :)

Sleepless
06-04-2002, 04:39 AM
Yes:bounce: If it's done great, if not...great! Plenty of time to show us more. I think you handled a tough composition really well. I too am wondering when to stop.

Sleepless

Tommy Lee
06-04-2002, 06:42 AM
All I have to say is... fantastic:applause:

I love ya style,... it reminds me of some artist, but donīt no who
in the moment.
And i compare whit Kirt: A little bit more focus on the dominating
Troll.... and where is the doggy???hehe!

Cheerz

Tommy Lee:beer:

elfufu
06-06-2002, 05:04 PM
what do you guys mean with more focus on the center troll? i havent any clue what else to do. (maybe make him nude? nudity seems to attract you artisitic pervs :p ) no but really and ideas would be appreciated. as far as the Dog is concerned i might draw one of the two dogs i have at home.

thers jedi the gay boston terrier
or

Jabba the Mutt, the fat snoring english bulldog... im undecided

Kirt
06-06-2002, 07:23 PM
I was just commenting that he seems a bit unfinished or unrefined. Especially the left arm and hand. I'd tighten that up a bit and add a little more detail so he 'pops' from the page a bit. See the detail on the forground troll (the green one) for example. You really have good definition on his horns, eyes, and teeth. It just looks more finished this way.

Since the central troll is what I see first when looking at your image, I just think he should be as well defined and shouldn't blend with the rest of the elements as much.

Gamoron
06-11-2002, 04:45 PM
Jeez, i gotta take more time to look over everyones stuff. Nice Style. I like where it's going, or gone. Yup the 2D stuff is very inspiring creatively, the 3D stuff is inspiring technically. The feeling you've got going here is great. :thumbsup:

Tommy Lee
06-30-2002, 12:58 PM
Congrats Elfufu!

5 Winners 5 Stars:eek: :)

Cheerz

Tommy Lee

elfufu
07-01-2002, 04:59 PM
man i got stuck with 3 votes!! cmon people hook a brotha up.. :p
this months challenge is tough!:buttrock:

elfufu
07-01-2002, 05:06 PM
jeez just when i say that, i loose a star! good lord at least leave a comment when you gonna shoot me down people. from 5 stars down to 3:annoyed:

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