Mossberg 590 questions

[Dare-o]

try this.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3671/csdcdsacdsacdsa.jpg

[ace63]

Forget caring about triangles if its for a game engine - it will need to be triangulated before being usable anyway

[biggestkid]

Oh so i should only really worry about ngons?

Also dare, where does the extra edge loop at the end(closest to us) of the frame go? Should it circle all the way back around?

[Dare-o]

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2241/cdcdcdacdcd.jpg

instead of it going all the way around, i think this would be easier.

[biggestkid]

Ok and should i do that for the other triangle on the end aswell?

[Dare-o]

yeah both sides, i didnt feel like drawing the other side. :arteest:

[biggestkid]

Yeah i did that and managed to get all triangles cleared away to quads. Thanks a lot dare. I am now onto fixing up some parts i modeled earlier, and will soon be turbosmoothing to produce a high res version.

But still one question, what is a general limit for low poly game weapon meshes?

[Dare-o]

That really depends on the engine your using. I was reading some stuff on ut3, and some users said the biogun had up to 13k tris, while some weapons used on a game that used XNA had 600 tris.

ut3:

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=184478

[biggestkid]

Ok and is there a place where i can see poly/triangle limits or guildelines for the popular(if not all) game engines? Other than google that is haha.

[Dare-o]

Hm, you can always search around the polycount forums, a games specific forum.

http://boards.polycount.net/

also, this is a pretty interesting thread on polycount:

http://boards.polycount.net/showthread.php?t=64546

or.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-472919.html

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-2155.html

http://www.forums.wastedgamer.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1596

also in Ballistics new character modeling 3 book, they go over the workflow of creating one of the hellgahn snipers.


crytek weapon:

http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?postid=399435

more weapons on unreal editor:

http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=475341
hope that gives you a general idea.

[biggestkid]

Ok well they all talk in poly's, not tris, which i find a bit odd for a bunch of GAME modelers. But anyway the general vibe im getting is anything under 4-5k triangles should be good for a weapon for most engines?

If so im gonna try and bump this one up to around 3.5k tris, so it will perform well in pretty much 100% of cases, not matter what engine or machine it is being rendered on.

[Yaroshenko]

can you be more specific give another photo on that are you trying to make that would be more helpful and for you, and for us. Have you tried to clean the front "Polygon" (selecting all the "Edges" and Ctrl+Delete), select it (the front polygon) and to to make "Insert", maybe that will help?

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6264/questionk.th.png (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/questionk.png/)

[biggestkid]

Yaro i already have the problem solved, but thanks anyway man! Might make this into a WIP thread soon...

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