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zpapageo
03-29-2010, 07:44 PM
Hey all. I've been getting back into drawing and painting after stopping for a few years. I've been posting my stuff on DA, but I decided to open up a sketchbook thread here too. I've been going back to my basics and focusing on anatomy and figure drawing to get some skills and confidence back.

I'll start with my most recent work, done in Manga Studio, which I'm just trying now and really love it for drawing.



As reference for these pics, I used stock from Marcus J Ranum (http://mjranum-stock.deviantart.com/) at DeviantArt and Matthew Archambault's pics from drawingtutorialsonline.com (http://forums.cgsociety.org/www.drawingtutorialsonline.com)

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/086/a/a/Ink_Practice_2_by_zpapageo.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/087/9/6/More_inks_by_zpapageo.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/084/5/0/inking_practice_by_zpapageo.jpg

zpapageo
03-29-2010, 07:56 PM
Some digital paintings in Painter and Photoshop:


This is the same model as in the first 2 ink drawings in the last post. The source is again from Marcus J Ranum (http://mjranum-stock.deviantart.com/) . I've been working mainly from stock photos while i try to build up some technique, but I really want to be able to work more from my imagination ultimately.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/088/6/a/Mme_Keirkegaard__I_presume_by_zpapageo.jpg



http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/088/f/0/Vintage_by_zpapageo.jpg

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/088/3/1/Figure_study_by_zpapageo.jpg

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/088/d/c/Sleeping_Nude_by_zpapageo.jpg
I'll have to edit this post later with the links to the reference on some of these

ltken84
03-30-2010, 02:37 AM
zpapageo, the figure drawings are looking very good~ keep posting :love:

soundwaves
03-31-2010, 12:05 PM
Good Stuff :bowdown:

CountZeroInterrupt
03-31-2010, 12:09 PM
Great stuff man, I especially love the ink work. How long did you spent on each drawing on average?

zpapageo
03-31-2010, 03:55 PM
Hey thanks!

Great stuff man, I especially love the ink work. How long did you spent on each drawing on average?

Each one was a few hours on average, I guess. I didnt keep track, but something like an entire evening, or half a day on the weekend for the fully painted ones. Shorter for the drawings. Some longer if I was struggling with it. They all definitely took alot longer than I would like them to. A lot of stuff I'd sit down with the intention of doing a speedpaint, and wind up spending all day on one pic, but it still looking like a 1/2 hour speedpaint.

CountZeroInterrupt
03-31-2010, 09:03 PM
I gotta say it again, the ink work is just fantastic. A few more questions:
When you ink do you use Undos at all (E.g. throw a line, undo, throw again, repeat until perfect) or do you just ink away and then erase?
Are you zoomed in or zoomed out while inking?
Do you rotate the canvas while inking?

It feels a bit strange trying to give advice to somebody who is obviously better than me at drawing, but here I go:
Initial speed paintings turning into hour-long sessions seems to be quite a common problem among many artists. I'm more the other way around. After about 30 minutes I am usually ready to move on to the next drawing, so I literally need to force myself to keep going if I want to end up with a finished piece. One trick I use quite often is to simple time myself. When working digitally I use a free software called Cool Timer. For example if I want to do speed studies I will set it to 2 min. and repeat, so every two minutes a window pops up reminding me to move on to the next drawing.

zpapageo
04-01-2010, 03:26 PM
I gotta say it again, the ink work is just fantastic. A few more questions:
When you ink do you use Undos at all (E.g. throw a line, undo, throw again, repeat until perfect) or do you just ink away and then erase?
Are you zoomed in or zoomed out while inking?
Do you rotate the canvas while inking?

It feels a bit strange trying to give advice to somebody who is obviously better than me at drawing, but here I go:
Initial speed paintings turning into hour-long sessions seems to be quite a common problem among many artists. I'm more the other way around. After about 30 minutes I am usually ready to move on to the next drawing, so I literally need to force myself to keep going if I want to end up with a finished piece. One trick I use quite often is to simple time myself. When working digitally I use a free software called Cool Timer. For example if I want to do speed studies I will set it to 2 min. and repeat, so every two minutes a window pops up reminding me to move on to the next drawing.

Hey thanks, Countzero. I dont consider my skills better than anybody's, so advice and tips are always welcome.

I just started playing with Manga Studio last week so I don't really have a real workflow in it yet. I didnt even know I could rotate the canvas til you just said so. I have been doing alot of draw/undo/draw/undo, but I'm hoping i do less of that as I get to know the tools better. As for zoom, I;ve been switching back and forth between 50% and 100%. Any smaller is too inaccurate for me. Mainly I'm zoomed out at 50% for the broader lines and then I'll zoom in for detail areas in the face.

Using a timer on paintings is a great idea. The problem I have with my paintings is that they only start looking good after spending hours noodling with the tones and smoothing them all out. But I don't really want the smoothed out rendered look. I want to be able to get the kind of bold direct look like some painters seem to be able to throw down a few well placed blobs of color and it just works. I guess maybe that comes with practice.

Outlawstar8489
04-02-2010, 10:36 AM
Your last 2 anatomy studies are masterworks, stunningly rendered, great job, keep posting man!

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