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tomaya
09-06-2003, 03:05 PM
hi! it's me again with my strange things... comments welcome...



[http://www.3dvf.com/DATA/galerie/artistes142/artist2824/39297a2c1d.jpg

McSpirit
09-06-2003, 03:32 PM
cool :) I like the eyes.. they give the pic life :thumbsup:

AJ
09-06-2003, 04:14 PM
That's fantastic!

The model, the scene, the skin the paint/glue/stuff all look superb...


:drool:

ElmarNieser
09-06-2003, 04:15 PM
cool, wonder if its posible to animate that blurry thing on her face. like in the matrix when he tuches the mirror :)

Wonderer
09-06-2003, 04:19 PM
Very cool... and weird!
But weird is outsome, Congratulations for your originality!:drool: :drool: :drool:

jdj
09-06-2003, 04:21 PM
Hello tomaya

Great picture! :thumbsup:

I like the blend between manga & photorealistic imaging.

I assume that the "helmet"-thingy is some kind of metaballs?

Some constructive feedback:

- The skin-highlight on *her* right eyebrow... the texturing is great, but the highlight somehow looks plastic to me. I cannot give any improvement tips on it, but it does not really look like skin.

- *Her* left palm could use some more bump mapping. It looks awfully flat, and even though girls are smooth creatures, they are not that smooth :)

Cheers!
/ Daniel
:beer:

Max4d
09-06-2003, 05:12 PM
Hey

I realy like the model and i must say those eyes are very nice. But what bothers me is the neck, it seems way to small and thin, like it's a head on a wooden stick.

Just my 2 cents

Keep it up

Greetz Max4d

proudclod
09-06-2003, 05:42 PM
the hands have a very unorganic texture...her hends look very plastic.....

tomaya
09-06-2003, 06:49 PM
Big thanks for your crits! The "thing" is made with realflow,in fact it's a fluid and it could be animated,for the render i've used
max5.1 and Vray.
I've to say she is not human...
Thanks again:beer:

koroko
09-06-2003, 08:03 PM
Grrrreat image!!!

The hands and face skin its amazing...stylistic yet realistic... :)

But i wonder whats up with the iris, they look kinda distorted...


keep them coming...

phoenix
09-06-2003, 08:12 PM
stuning visual dude

dann
09-06-2003, 08:15 PM
i think you got some superb modeling going on, really nice stuff here, the styles real good as well. the only thing that personally bothers me is the complete symmetry on the helmet. I'd expect there to be a few inconsystencies here and there. other than that you just need to finish off the made-to-measure bikini and i think were in good shape.

aenema
09-06-2003, 09:32 PM
wow, this looks great :thumbsup: the hands look very realistic also, although the texture is a tad to flat

tomaya
09-06-2003, 10:00 PM
that's great to have so many comments and views,this picture
is not supposed to be realistic but i like to use realistic ways to do it.
Hi koroko,if the iris seems distorted,it's because of the hdri map,

maybe i should try another one...

Anyway,it's nice to have some point of views about strange things like that!

:surprised
:beer:

tomaya
09-06-2003, 11:12 PM
thanks for your feedbacks JDJ ,you're right!i'll try to work on it!
But don't forget,she's not human and it's just an illustration....

:beer:

Marsel Khadiyev
09-06-2003, 11:43 PM
I can't stop looking at those eyes !! aaah !

Great texturing... perhaps the background is a little boring/flat?

But her eyes really steal the focus.

tomaya
09-06-2003, 11:58 PM
thanks masel,sorry for the background it's just a still image
with a big blur...so it seems to be flat...

See you
:scream:

tomaya
09-07-2003, 12:28 PM
Max4d: i understand your point of view about the proportions
as i said she's not supposed to be human....:rolleyes:

diazgl
09-07-2003, 03:06 PM
you are SOOO KILLING ME!!! Excellent work! There are stuff you could fix though. Some definition on the palms wouldn't hurt, I dont think she's a baby!! Some deeper wrinkles and besides bump, the hand should also have some colour variations in the grooves of the wrinkles! Something with the bump / specularity looks really wrong above her right eye, looks kinda fake at that spot.

DAREONER
09-07-2003, 03:21 PM
c est vraimment delir, kaena qui a un rhume héhéhé, d ailleur comment fait tu ses sortes de traces boueuses, avec real flow?

tomaya
09-07-2003, 03:32 PM
thanks diazgl,i agree with you,i've to work on it!

Salut Dare,toujours le p'tit mot pour rire hein? éh éh! Les traces de boue (comme tu dis.Pfff oh lala mais tu vois pas que c'est d'l'art!) c'est du pure Realflow:rolleyes: Yep!

Lazar
09-07-2003, 03:38 PM
Oh my got! Is't perfect!
I love her eyes !!!
Great work!!!

renderwoman
09-07-2003, 03:59 PM
co0o0o0ol.nicemodel:drool:
i think if u get her kneck thicker,it'll be better!
hope u the best!:thumbsup:

tomaya
09-07-2003, 04:12 PM
thanks renderwoman, and i know for the neck:surprised
:beer:

tomaya
09-07-2003, 09:37 PM
lazar: perfect?:p I don't know:rolleyes: but it's nice of you;)

CDS
09-07-2003, 09:51 PM
Very nice work. My fav is the eye's, and hair features. but the skin on both the face and hands are not up to the same level as the eye's and hair.

One question, How does she breath?

tomaya
09-07-2003, 10:49 PM
oh yes...that.Well it's a very special material,the air can pass inside it:rolleyes: That's why i like Sci fi...

Dantes
09-08-2003, 01:11 AM
Can you make the fluid to go in a round fashion where the eyebrows meets the nose .

Critiques make the artists better.

Brett H.
09-08-2003, 03:21 AM
As soon as I looked at this I said to myself "Gotta be Max with VRay" and lo and behold, it is. Damn, that's a nice renderer.

Looking good there, agree about the skin shader comments, but hey, this could work in an animation and noone would think twice.

The eyes are killer, they really draw you in, and the color of the bio helmet (I keep thinking of the stuff they were drinking on the spaceship in the original Alien, or the stuff Uncle Owen and Aunt Baroo drink with Luke on Tatooine--know what I mean? Anyone?)

Anyhow-----Nice work.

Brett

tomaya
09-08-2003, 09:54 AM
Thanks Dantes, i will do that,good idea;)
Brett h: That's true Vray become better and better...
Thanks for the crits:beer:

ufo
09-08-2003, 09:01 PM
great !!! but too mirror !:thumbsup:
Very cool to see some thing like that , S. F. & real & manga style !

PascalR
09-08-2003, 09:37 PM
Salut Missieur,

Cool job, Great rendering style:beer:

Ca y va realflow et vray ;)
Keep up the good job:thumbsup:

kal

tomaya
09-08-2003, 09:38 PM
Very happy of that ufo,SF is interesting,really...this is not real
she's not really human so all is possible!

See you soon:beer:

Dantes
09-08-2003, 10:17 PM
U could give some bumps or wires on her neck
(SHE IS NOT HUMAN)
or even on her palms
(SHE IS NOT HUMAN)

Just a way to tell(SHE IS NOT HUMAN)

DimitrisLiatsos
09-08-2003, 10:45 PM
Very artistic work.Bravo!:drool: :drool:

tomaya
09-08-2003, 11:20 PM
eh eh! Thanks Kal ouais j'me marre bien mais c'est un peu trop
frisou...:rolleyes:
Ok Dantes ,i see the point...thanks.
Dimitris,nice to have some crits from greece,i' m a big fan of
santorini!

:beer:

b1m2x3
09-08-2003, 11:47 PM
oh my god... that is stunning

excelent picture, the blue shit looks so gross.
around the eyes it is a bit too glossy, but other then that, amazing job man.... :applause:

tomaya
09-08-2003, 11:57 PM
thanks b1 ,in fact i like wet looks around the eyes,it's
because of the bump,the hdri map reflect on it...
:beer:

tomaya
09-09-2003, 12:23 AM
oh just a word to thank a guy: Olivier perrot in Marseille (France)
and its awsome site : 3dvf.com .Hosting a little gallery of my
works:thumbsup:

Brown_V
09-09-2003, 12:51 AM
bucacci! ;)

ansisvarx
09-09-2003, 03:45 AM
The eyes are amazing. Was Vray's SSS used for the skin? Were the eye lashes and brows modelled? Very good model, very nice render:buttrock:

sixthe45
09-09-2003, 08:45 AM
Fluid,eyes.......everything is just:eek: :cool:

tomaya
09-09-2003, 08:56 AM
Ansisvarx: Yep,eye lashes and brows are modelled,but with
shag-hair and the enabled-geometry option...and what do call
Vray's SSS? Anyway it's a full Vray render;)
Brown_v:thanks,but who's bucacci?...

:beer:

wgreenlee1
09-09-2003, 09:38 AM
Awesome stuff!!!

shujumy
09-09-2003, 09:54 AM
i
LIKE
the
HAND MODELING
VERY well
DONE....................

:)

.:BoS:.
09-09-2003, 09:57 AM
Amazing Work!!! It is so real!!!
Idea is very good...
:buttrock: :applause: :thumbsup: :beer:

stipen
09-09-2003, 10:17 AM
Superbe image !!
j'aime bien la position delicate des mains, les yeux sont super bien faits, et la boue.......la boue c'est pas mal :) :applause:
Human or not human who cares !!! this is stylish !!! keep doin whatever you want with your design !
Well done !!

Jungle_Tintin
09-09-2003, 10:31 AM
This is so beautiful, the model, the athmosphere, everything is superb. Congratulation!:applause:

:beer:

tomaya
09-09-2003, 03:38 PM
Voilà qui fait bien plaisir les amis! Thanks a lot:beer:
in fact Stipen,sorry but it's normal you think it's mud:hmm: but
in fact it's a sort of helmet on the skin that' why "made to measuse" pile poil sur la peau.vouaaaala! enfin bon je comprends
hein,c'est un peu chelou...it's a bit bizarre...

:beer:

Kinjiru
09-09-2003, 03:40 PM
very nice :D

benderman
09-09-2003, 03:42 PM
woahwoah! =) great! The eyes are gorgeous! =)

tomaya
09-09-2003, 03:46 PM
Cool benderman!Thanks!



tomaya
3ds max 5.1, p4 2,4 ghz, 512 ddr, geForce 4 :scream:

stipen
09-09-2003, 03:46 PM
ahh sorry mais je me suis mal exprimé......j'ai juste repris l'expression de qqun au dessus (en parlant de la boue )....mais j'avais bien compris qu'il s'agissait d'un casque sur mesure....et je trouve ça pas mal ;)

tomaya
09-09-2003, 03:50 PM
Ah cool,c'est ce vieux cheyenne de dareoner ! C'est marrant
comme on pige tout mieux en français.Merci pour tes critiques
ça fait avancer...

A plus
Don't stop making pictures...

pluMmet
09-09-2003, 07:04 PM
right click>save picture as...

great work!

phoenix
09-09-2003, 07:17 PM
very nice man

kr3ml
09-09-2003, 07:34 PM
Wow , how did you make that "mask" or w/e it is ... Nice work :thumbsup:

tomaya
09-09-2003, 11:06 PM
thanks guys. That "mask" ,acorn,it's in fact a fluid ,made with
Realflow 2.0,the great spanish soft for fluid simulation.At each
vertex,one particle and then ... ...a mesh! I like this method
very much,you can do very complex models with this.And also
it can be animated,particles follow the mesh...

EdmX
09-09-2003, 11:32 PM
:buttrock:

that´s a nice mask and model...
holy f+ck...

the render looks aswome too...
nice work....
:applause:

Soulstorm
09-09-2003, 11:41 PM
i think/know that she'd suffocate to death since its covering her entire nose and mouth as well

great work though

tomaya
09-09-2003, 11:47 PM
Yep yep,i know that's why i said,it's SciFi.Nothing is real!This
material is very special and with it, you can have some air....
it's incredible!Try it!



:beer:

tomaya
09-10-2003, 12:59 AM
thanks to every one:thumbsup:

ansisvarx
09-10-2003, 03:15 AM
I was wondering if subsurface scattering was used for the skin, or some wax shader that vray has maybe? Very good work you have there.:applause: :applause:

Jb5k1
09-10-2003, 04:33 AM
that picture is brilliant

the eyes are amazing, but i a little too glassy lookin, they look like my brothers when he's stoned

heh

i wouldn't change it tho, it kinda fits, cause the thing on her head looks like its hurting her and she wants to cry


word ma mayonaise!!

Terro
09-10-2003, 05:29 AM
Lovely.:applause:

tomaya
09-10-2003, 10:33 AM
Oh i see JB,maybe too much reflect....anyway it's supposed
to protect her ,not to hurt but i see what you mean:wavey:

Thanks for the crits:beer:

wgreenlee1
09-10-2003, 10:51 AM
Is there anyway to get more views?
Awesome rendering!:thumbsup:

tomaya
09-10-2003, 02:35 PM
yep ,i will do that:D

:thumbsup:

tomaya
09-10-2003, 11:00 PM
Quote,
ansisvarx:
"I was wondering if subsurface scattering was used for the skin"

Ok ... ...hum... what do you mean? I know that my english is
a big mess,but can you explain ?...:rolleyes:


:beer:

Oscarini
09-10-2003, 11:37 PM
Respect man! I like when artist is playin'around with some intressting things - can make them use well - even if they loox strange a bit - but when I saw Your image - I got some crazy ideas in my mind how to use some tricks on my portfollio - like U do! ;D

tomaya
09-11-2003, 09:24 AM
thanks a lot,that's nice:p
you can see also a little gallery on 3dvf.com,if you want...

See you:beer:

Jb5k1
09-11-2003, 12:49 PM
this is hard to believe it's not real, i mean
a couple of years ago nickelodian (kids tv) put out a product called gak, which was like a goo, and it looks so much like the mask it's not even funny :beer:


awesome:love: :thumbsup: :buttrock:

tomaya
09-11-2003, 12:57 PM
Nice of you:beer: i'll continue to work on it...
See you

shaman
09-11-2003, 01:01 PM
very good,:buttrock:

wgreenlee1
09-11-2003, 01:24 PM
@tomaya

How do we find you at 3dvf.com?

Sorry...any links....?

tomaya
09-11-2003, 08:14 PM
Yep sorry,there:



http://www.3dvf.com/modules/galerie/artiste/2824.html

:beer:

DoLeeP
09-11-2003, 08:27 PM
http://www.3dvf.com/DATA/galerie/artistes142/artist2824/39297a2c1d.jpg
LOOKS COOL VERY COOL

tomaya
09-12-2003, 12:21 AM
ooooh that's cool Doleepoz very cool,awsome! Thanks:wip:
:applause:

tomaya
09-12-2003, 12:41 AM
I knew that my host was not very "pictural"!:scream:

ansisvarx
09-12-2003, 05:12 AM
hmm vray has a wax shader i think. Did u use that for the skin? Or is the skin just the usual vray mat?

tomaya
09-12-2003, 08:14 AM
No nooo,the skin,it's just a classic Vray mat,with very blurred
reflections...

olijosman
09-12-2003, 09:51 AM
fantastic work in the hands,well, in everything!
very good and surprising image :buttrock:

NZO
09-12-2003, 02:36 PM
SUPERBE THOMAS !!!!!!
tout simplement
Bonne continuation !!!

alexyork
09-12-2003, 04:18 PM
Wow. LOVE the soft, sticky plastic look.
Been trying to achieve that for a long time.

Vray does offer very nice reflections. I have been using Brazil for a long time, now, maybe I should check Vray out.

Thanks for the inspiration.

Another superb piece of work.

alexyork
09-12-2003, 04:21 PM
PS. They are probably the best eyes I've ever seen on CGTalk.

tomaya
09-12-2003, 05:24 PM
thanks a lot ! It's cool if i can give inspiration to someone:beer:
Merci nzo,j'espere que ça roule pour toi...

See you very soon

tomaya
09-12-2003, 10:33 PM
Mothermachine: thanks,Brazil or final render are great too i think
Now with vray,the hdri and the displacement work very well.Also
I've posted another thread with a very fas rendering vray mat:

there:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83655&highlight=tomaya

The glass texture is made with a full refraction ans a fog in it,
the object itself takes only 2 minutes to be rendered! A good
trick to do fluids and glass effects...

:beer:

tomaya
09-13-2003, 09:37 PM
Keep on working guys....:beer:

tomaya
09-13-2003, 11:48 PM
Mothermachine: i've seen better eyes so...thanks !

sarfarazsoomro
09-14-2003, 02:56 AM
wow, i really like the eyes and the hands, and BTW your 3dvf gallery is superb aswell, keep it up :)

tomaya
09-14-2003, 09:57 AM
Thanks,happy to know that you enjoy the gallery...:wavey:

tomaya
09-15-2003, 11:17 AM
A question guys,because of my english: what's a wax shader??
:rolleyes:

tomaya
09-16-2003, 02:51 PM
oh ok! Forget my question,i've got it...:hmm:

activemotionpictures
09-16-2003, 07:00 PM
they way it is softened, and the form of the fingers. ;)
David R.

tomaya
09-16-2003, 08:34 PM
Thanks,it's just a simple character studio pose...
;)

tomaya
09-17-2003, 03:20 PM
Last news:Kaena will be in us soon with Sony pictures...;)

emilioG
09-26-2003, 06:55 PM
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD Tom!

I want to animate her.
When she's ready, email me.
;)

Envoi-moi une update sur mon hotmail et je te donnerai mon email a PDI ansi celui de Patrick Bonneau :)
Ou es-tu?

Merde Tomas, c'est fou ton affaire!!!

To anyone who reads this:

Tomas Is the bomb ladies and gentlemen.
Definately one of the best artists I've ever met and had the pleasure to work with.
End of story.
:)

tomaya
09-26-2003, 10:24 PM
C'est trop Emilio ! Je ne suis qu'un éternel débutant:rolleyes:
Thanks and i'll give you some news,don't worry about that.
Is it cool in PDI?

If you want to take a look at her "hdri ass", it's there :

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89225&highlight=tomaya

:beer:

emilioG
09-26-2003, 11:12 PM
PDI's great.
Debutant my ass! ;)
and her butt is beautiful I might add.
Are you planning to animate her?

tomaya
09-27-2003, 12:17 AM
For the moment it's just rendering tests... ...for the eyes, i'm
also working on the riging around the eyes (muscles) it would
nice to animate her! eh Emilio,je sais que je l'ai beaucoup modifié
mais tu l'as reconnu quand meme !? no? eh!eh!
:beer:

emilioG
09-27-2003, 01:06 AM
Bien sur!
Je l'ai regarde pendant plus d'un an quand meme!!!
hee hee

Those gorgeous lucious eyes, those big pouting lips... how could I forget ;)

tomaya
09-27-2003, 08:33 AM
Yep, DVD for december! I'll send you one :scream:
Good luck for shrek2:thumbsup:

tomaya
09-29-2003, 11:54 PM
Give us some news on shrek2! What are you doing buddy?
:beer:

emilioG
09-30-2003, 01:52 AM
Hahaha. All I can say is this:

It's 3-4 times funnier than the 1st one in my book.

:scream:

Sqwall
09-30-2003, 09:12 AM
Well it looks like your bio helmet is made of liquid porcelain of some sort. Anyway I like it. :p

Naseem
09-30-2003, 10:43 AM
stunning!! amazing render and the work too. cheers :beer:

tomaya
09-30-2003, 12:23 PM
Thanks guys ! cool !
:beer:

tomaya
09-30-2003, 11:12 PM
Give us some news Emilio, when shreck is finished,see you...

kiko3d
09-30-2003, 11:59 PM
Hi, I´ve seen your model and I think It´s got life, and it´s for the eyes mostly, could you tell me how to ahieve that reflections in the eyes, cause I´ve tried so many times, so many tutorials and I just get disapointed every time, if just would be so kind of drop me a line and explain me the settings of the material a little bit I´d really apreciate that: kiko3d@hotmail.com. BTW I´m using max, hope your using it to, thanks in advance.

Johnny_Cannuck
10-01-2003, 01:13 AM
Take 1 part corn starch, 1 part water, a dash of food colouring, mix it all up, and you get something like that. Nice Work.

:beer:

gabe || neutra
10-01-2003, 03:41 AM
Excellent work!!!!!! You can post a wireframe?

I never use wallpapers, but your image will be the first one.:thumbsup:

p.d.(1): Real flow is an excellent software, of an excellent company (Next Limit), of an excellent human team.,:applause:

p.d.(2): Sorry for my english, you speak spanish?
:p

gabe || neutra
10-01-2003, 03:49 AM
Hey people, where is the cgtalk award? :thumbsup:

tomaya
10-01-2003, 11:18 AM
Thanks a lot guys!
Kiko, for the reflections it's the HDRI map used for the illumination,
the most important in fact it' s the model of the eyes, i'll give you
more details about that with pictures to explain myself...

hola Gabe ,my spanish is very bad ,tengo practicar mucho mas!

Thanks again
:beer:

kiko3d
10-01-2003, 11:35 PM
Yo tb soy español, espero tu respuesta pronto.

tomaya
10-02-2003, 04:09 PM
Muy bien kiko, soy beta-tester en Realflow 2.5, conoces next limit
en madrid ?
See you
:beer:

kiko3d
10-02-2003, 10:38 PM
Si lo conozco, bueno he oido hablar de ello, pero me gustaria conocerlo mejor, estas en madrid? si eso podiamos quedar y me explicas algunos trucos, see you.

tomaya
10-03-2003, 03:21 PM
In fact i'm in Paris ,sorry for my spanish:rolleyes:
:beer:

tomaya
10-08-2003, 08:20 PM
Kaena's DVD is coming ! December 2... ...:buttrock:

Thanks for your support...

PascalR
10-08-2003, 08:42 PM
Hey tu crois qu'on en aura un gratos ;)
Ca y es tu l'as fini le dvd?
A+
Pascal
:beer:

PascalR
10-08-2003, 08:56 PM
Ah oui j'oubliais.. Ton rendu/texture sur les yeux ca déchire bien, bravo!
Keep up the great work
Pascal

View my latest WIP (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90478)

tomaya
10-08-2003, 11:32 PM
Thanks Kal! Putain j'ai le cable! C'est Mortel !
Merci pascal, pour le DVD : Isabelle (tu te souviens d'elle?)
qui bosse à canal maintenant va m'en envoyer, elle en
reserve pour l'équipe (sans passer par Xilam... éh!éh!).
Cool...
Le mesh de ton fiston est Génial,il est beau comme un camion.
C'est du renderman ou pas...?.... ...pasque moi chez sparx
j'v'ai en bouffer du Slim! Yep!
:wip:


Tom

PascalR
10-09-2003, 08:34 AM
Héhé un gand merci a Isabelle alors:thumbsup:
Merci pour mon mesh. Oui c'est du renderman, ca fait longtemps que je fais plus que ca ;)
Bon courage chez Sparx. Tiens moi au courrant :)
A+
Pascal

tomaya
10-09-2003, 02:45 PM
Thanks pascal, no problemo !
Tom

aQu
10-09-2003, 02:49 PM
Nice cumsho... -Oop, sorry I ment Bio helmet! :applause:

tomaya
10-09-2003, 03:05 PM
I see that as a compliment so thanks aQu !:rolleyes:

aQu
10-09-2003, 03:11 PM
Yes, you have guessed correct, it is a compliment. I love it! :love:

tomaya
10-09-2003, 04:57 PM
That's nice of you aQu !:beer:

tomaya
10-11-2003, 12:24 PM
Kaena's DVD 's coming, december the 3rd ,but without DTS
only 5.1 so ...:rolleyes: ...

mickatt
10-11-2003, 12:37 PM
le rendu est excellent (y'a surement une anim quelque part...)
attention t'es deja un real flow master et maintenant un vray master !!!
et bonne chance chez sparx...

tomaya
10-11-2003, 12:43 PM
Merci Mickatt ! Mais qui es tu donc ? J'ai quelques doutes
mais bon...

:beer:

tomaya
10-17-2003, 10:30 PM
oh Just for those who haven't seen it... ...hosting PB again...

tomaya
01-24-2004, 10:27 PM
Happy new year to you all !:beer:

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