DAVE School Switching to Maya

[RobertoOrtiz]

Wow My dongle just melted...I guess the self destruct just activated.
I mean right now it did.

I guess I have to switch to Maya now.

Oh well.

-R

[fabittar]

Ortiz,

I think you missed it entirely. Being defensive about it won't help, either. I didn't make any comments, instead I opted to copy and paste the thing as it is and leave it to LW users to discuss this (maturely).

Anyway, DAVE School was one of the best known Lightwave oriented training facilities and now it made a switch; I blame the CORE marketing fiasco (if you've read my previous posts, you know how I feel about it and where exactly I think Newtek made a mistake). NT let it fall into obscurity.

If people stop learning it, if new people stop coming into it and old users are switching to other 3D packages, there's something very wrong going on and LW's future is at risk. I think people who paid for it in advance should start questioning NT. Sooner than later.

[Castius]

There is nothing in this info to suggest that Maya training will be the only thing at the school.

Plus since day one of learning Lightwave. I've had to learn and use other software to get a job. So it's not surprising for a training school to accommodate it's students.

[fabittar]

There is nothing in this info to suggest that Maya training will be the only thing at the school.

Plus since day one of learning Lightwave. I've had to learn and use other software to get a job. So it's not surprising for a training school to accommodate it's students.

I never said that. Read this carefully:

This course must provide a solid overview of the major functions in MAYA to students who have already completed a comprehensive program in Lightwave. (...) In time you will transition to providing deeper training is one specific area of expertise such as asset creation, animation, or lighting & rending.

It's very clear. Assets, animation, lighting and rendering. That leaves modelling to LW. Sounds like a switch in response to NT's decision to deliver a modelling application (and a complete package "when it's done").

CORE is very much ignored by everyone else but LW users.

[Tama]

Ortiz,

I think you missed it entirely. Being defensive about it won't help, either. I didn't make any comments, instead I opted to copy and paste the thing as it is and leave it to LW users to discuss this (maturely).

Anyway, DAVE School was one of the best known Lightwave oriented training facilities and now it made a switch; I blame the CORE marketing fiasco --

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So here you can clearly see that you yourself did make the comment that "it made a switch" rather than state that the school is likely just adding another package to its roster of offered classes. You are just trolling and looking to provoke unless of course that you aren't aware of exactly what it is you are saying which is a problem and if so you should refrain from commenting until you are certain yourself of exactly what it is that you are attempting to say.

[fabittar]

So here you can clearly see that you yourself did make the comment that "it made a switch" rather than state that the school is likely just adding another package to its roster of offered classes. You are just trolling and looking to provoke unless of course that you aren't aware of exactly what it is you are saying which is a problem and if so you should refrain from commenting until you are certain yourself of exactly what it is that you are attempting to say.

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It made the switch to Maya in their animation, lighting and rendering classes.

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Really, I am having a hard time figuring you out. I couldn't have been clearer or more polite.

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The question here is: how is the current affairs and NT decision to leave LW in obscurity benefitial to its future in any way?

Also, Tamm, calm down. Questioning NT is not trolling; and your attitude is unwelcoming, at best.

[Castius]

I think you are making to many assumptions. It's interesting new. Not to much to read into otherwise.

[fabittar]

Maybe. In any case, I still think NT is not doing it right. And I won't even go into the whole 'leap of faith' discussion anymore because it usually ends up drawing heat into the thread and we had enough of that.

The CORE program is no good. If you chose to pay for it in advance and bet in Lightwave's future, ok, but that leaves the development process 'in hiding', actively watched over by old timers, sure, but forgotten by everybody else.

It was a bad decision to return to this discussion. I just wanted to post about the changes in DAVE School as to illustrate what I've been saying and warning of for a long time. I will give it 'till december and then we'll see.

[Tama]

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It made the switch to Maya in their animation, lighting and rendering classes.

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Really, I am having a hard time figuring you out. I couldn't have been clearer or more polite.

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Nowhere in your opening post does it state that the school made a "switch". Your comprehension is quite questionable. Perhaps you left out some pertinent info in your first post or maybe you don't understand what the word "switch" means?
btw, thanks for all the prescient warnings...:rolleyes:

[aeres]

I thought DAVE school has incorporated Maya in their courses since years and years ago.

[E_Moelzer]

I know from sources close to Dave School that they are not switching. They are simply adding a (one!) MAYA instructor, that is all.
Do you really think that there is only one teacher teaching at Dave School?!!
Get real!

[Tama]

I know from sources close to Dave School that they are not switching. They are simply adding a (one!) MAYA instructor, that is all.
Do you really think that there is only one teacher teaching at Dave School?!!
Get real!

It's apparent that Fabio is suffering from NDS (Newtek Derangement Syndrome) and is under the delusion that this forum is his own personal blog where he can post stream of (un)consciousness rants against his imaginary enemy. Not saying that Fabio isn't fabulous, just confused.

[Chuck Baker]

I never said that. Read this carefully:

This course must provide a solid overview of the major functions in MAYA to students who have already completed a comprehensive program in Lightwave. (...) In time you will transition to providing deeper training is one specific area of expertise such as asset creation, animation, or lighting & rending.

It's very clear. Assets, animation, lighting and rendering. That leaves modelling to LW. Sounds like a switch in response to NT's decision to deliver a modelling application (and a complete package "when it's done").

CORE is very much ignored by everyone else but LW users.


Actually, the DAVE School has offered a "fifth quarter" class in the basics of Maya for many years now. They have long considered expanding the Maya offering because of Maya's strength in film production. This predates any announcements on our part of the LightWave CORE development, and the comparative issues that make Maya currently a stronger option in film projects above a certain scope than LightWave 3D is, are precisely those that LightWave CORE's design and implementation will address and correct. Thus, any assumptions that any planned changes have anything to do with LWCORE are quite simply without foundation.

To date, DAVE has not in fact changed over the main curriculum. Expansion of Maya instruction will not necessarily mean that LightWave will not also be taught in the same areas of application, for example lighting, texturing, animation and rendering. In fact, expanded Maya training could be done as additional quarters, just like the current Maya offering, which would leave the LightWave curriculum intact and unchanged. And our Marketing and Entertainment and Media Development groups are very interested in working with DAVE School to enable them to continue with LightWave instruction, including capturing our new developments in both LightWave 3D and the new CORE module.

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