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jbw
09-04-2003, 11:24 AM
I'm completely new to painter 8 - I literally bought it a week ago and although I understand Painter isn't PS there are a couple of things that I'm finding difficult to work with.

1, Other than double clicking on the zoom tool to zoom to 100% is there a keyboard shortcut? I've been using Photoshop for about 6 years and I'm really pleased with how the majority of Photoshop shortcuts are implemented in Painter but this one seems to be lacking. I've checked the shortcut card and the manual but I can't find it! Can anyone help?

2, Is there a way to get Painter to anti-alias zoom values? i.e. in PS at 25% & 50% a pic is antialised whilst at 33.3% & 66.7% it isn't. When in Painter all I get when zooming in or out, at any value, is non-antialiased artwork. Anyway to change this?

ta,
jbw

Lunatique
09-05-2003, 05:39 AM
Yeah, the AA needs work big time. I hope they're working on it. I usually have it at 3 settings for good AA: 50%, 100%, and 200%. I sometimes tolerate 25% simply to see how things look zoomed out, but it's barely tolerable at that setting.

Jinbrown
09-05-2003, 10:05 AM
jbw,

Other than double clicking the Magnifier tool to jump to 100% zoom, the quickest way I can think of is to:

Click "M" key to activate the Magnifier tool and in the Property bar, click the Actual Pixels button.

To get back to painting, click the "B" key or learn the other keys to activate whichever tool you want to go back to using.

"M" + Actual Pixels


You can also adjust the Zoom Scale slider, but that's kinda iffy, or type the exact zoom percent into the box just to the right of the Scale slider, but that's kinda slow.

MartinNH
09-06-2003, 04:50 AM
Unlike in photoshop using the ctrl-space or ctrl-alt-space shortcut for zooming, painter wont let you rightclick and select actual size :(

Only way that I know of is by clicking the zoom value and selecting 100%.

Jinbrown
09-06-2003, 02:07 PM
Though we can't right click and choose Actual Pixels while using Ctrl/Command+Shift or Ctrl/Command+Shift+Alt/Option, we can...


Click the "M" key, right click and choose Actual Pixels...

Just as we can click the "M" key then click the Property Bar's Actual Pixels button.

The key is having the Magnifier tool active by either clicking its icon in the Tools palette or by clicking the "M" key.

Shannon
09-06-2003, 07:50 PM
I'm new to Painter as well. Just bought ver 8.

I'm really concerned about the fact that even with my canvas at 100%, 300dpi, I'm seeing no antialiasing. Any brush with a hard edge gives me the jaggies as I paint at an angle. Is there a setting for interpolation or aa that I'm missing? Is this the norm?
Same strokes in PS gives perfect AA, not that I want to paint in PS so I dont think its my hardware. Help?

http://www.filmic.net/No AA.jpg
Pencil 2B 300dpi 100%

Jinbrown
09-08-2003, 05:10 AM
Shannon,

If there are any brush variants you've adjusted and want to save, do that now.

Then, in the Brush Selector menu, choose Restore All Default Variants.

Choose the Pencils' 2B Pencil variant.

Open the Brush Creator and go to the General section.

Notice the settings are:

Dab Type: Circular
Stroke Type: Single
Method: Buildup
Subcategory: Grainy Soft Buildup

Any brush variant for which the Subcategory name includes the word "Grainy" interacts with the current Paper texture so the edges will be more or less rough depending on the particular Paper, even if the variant does have anti-aliased edges which this one does so some degree (zoom way in and you'll see this).


Try using the Pencil's Cover Pencil and in the Brush Creator's General section, change the Subcategory from Grainy Soft Cover to Soft Cover. Since this variant, in its default state is set to 58% Opacity, you might want to adjust that too.

In the Size section, change the size to 12 and paint a black brushstroke on a white Canvas (at 300 ppi).

Zoom in to about 500% and I think you'll see plenty of anti-aliasing.

Changing the Pencils' 2B Pencil variant's Subcategory from Grainy Soft Cover to Soft Cover doesn't show as much change in the anti-aliasing as this same change shows in the Pencils' Cover Pencil, if any at all. It might, though, depending on which Paper is currently selected. I didn't take a lot of time to check all of them, just used Basic Paper which has not as much texture as some of the others.

Another one that seems to be pretty smooth is the Pencils' Mechanical Pencil 2 with its Method changed to Cover and Subcategory changed to Soft Cover.

Using a real pencil on paper, you'd probably get pretty rough edges too, depending on the paper's degree of smoothness. If you don't want that look, though, there are always adjustments that can be made.

Experiment to find the ones you like best.

Good luck,

Shannon
09-08-2003, 07:04 AM
Jin,

Thanks for the great reply.

I've been experimenting with the brushes and their variants and see that most all of them are quite smooth.

chrisdejoya
09-12-2003, 05:14 AM
Don't the + and - keys next to backspace work? I think I use them all the time, but I'm not sure. The program slips around me so well, I don't think about hotkeys and the like anymore.

Jinbrown
09-12-2003, 02:53 PM
Snowfly,

Yes, but you need to use Ctrl/Command++ or Ctrl/Command+- to zoom in and out.

bumskee
09-17-2003, 02:26 AM
hey,

2, Is there a way to get Painter to anti-alias zoom values? i.e. in PS at 25% & 50% a pic is antialised whilst at 33.3% & 66.7% it isn't. When in Painter all I get when zooming in or out, at any value, is non-antialiased artwork. Anyway to change this?

I am very curious with this one, coz I just started using painter, like jbw I have been PS user, trying out painter loving it so far but few lil things are giving me pain. like the one above. at any other zoom than 100% it looks jaggy, is this something i have to accept, or like jbw asked an option setting available??

thanx,

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