Figurative Thread of A.Sinner

[Cisc0]

Welcome Ekaterina! Nice strart.. but I suggest you to try some different ways of shading: that smooth effect doesn't make the shapes come out very well and it's quite boring to look at (I don't know if I'm explained right). Maybe you feel comfortable working on your figures in that way, but try something more dynamic. That's it. keep on working :thumbsup:

[AngelaSinner]

Welcome Ekaterina! Nice strart.. but I suggest you to try some different ways of shading: that smooth effect doesn't make the shapes come out very well and it's quite boring to look at (I don't know if I'm explained right). Maybe you feel comfortable working on your figures in that way, but try something more dynamic. That's it. keep on working :thumbsup:
I know what you mean about the shading, its something I'm working on! Thank you for your comment!
Here are some portrait attempts
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/headandeyes.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/azira2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/Kate-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/Photo017.jpg
and my first one done in Photoshop (grayscale)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/FINALPIECE.jpg

[AngelaSinner]

Here is some new work, this time this portrait was made from a reference, which is this (Jennifer Connelly) http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/Photo022.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/Photo018.jpg

Some weapons
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/weaponswithtxt.jpg


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/Photo048.jpg


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/lipsfinal2.jpg

and an attempt to paint silk in Photoshop
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/Fabriccloseup1.jpg

[aggie93]

You have a good grasp of the digital work from what I see so far. There is a section of Loomis Figure Drawing that talks about shading. I suggest practicing from there. Keep posting!

[AngelaSinner]

You have a good grasp of the digital work from what I see so far. There is a section of Loomis Figure Drawing that talks about shading. I suggest practicing from there. Keep posting!

Yes, I got that book a few days ago! I will look at it for the shading part, I always had problems with that. thank you for your comment!

Here is some new work. Done in Photoshop, grayscale. the initial sketch was done in photoshop as well.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/FinalNel.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/8.jpg

and the current WIP i'm workin on which I'm trying to make a bit more realistic than the previous
this is the line art I did on paper

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/Photo030.jpg

here are parts of the painting, I'm having trouble blending...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/4.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/6.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/7.jpg

[Tasp]

I like the egyptian motif in the first sketches.

Also, are you using reference material or drawing from the imagination? The shading on those eyes looks good!

Keep posting!

[AngelaSinner]

I like the egyptian motif in the first sketches.

Also, are you using reference material or drawing from the imagination? The shading on those eyes looks good!

Keep posting!

Ah yes, Egypt is one of my greatest inspirations.
I only use reference for the line art, but not for the rest.

Here is some of my 3D modeling. Done in Maya and Zbrush

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/3D%20art/finalfemale.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/3D%20art/back.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/3D%20art/Copyof5.jpg

[Mu]

Hi there,

From what I see I strongly suggest dropping the drawings from imagination and thoroughly copying reference for a while. Not only the linework. The complete set, values and all. Working in greyscale is a good idea and as you can handle Photoshop it might be good to focus on digital for a while. Open your source photo side by side with the canvas and start to draw what you see!

Which is why this book (http://www.drawright.com/) might be very helpful as it focuses on making you draw what you see as opposed to drawing what you think you see.

For the portraits: Try to find reference which has other views, too. Not only the frontal view. A nice 3/4 view offers nice opportunities for shading and showing the character.

I like the b/w digital eyes, btw!

[AngelaSinner]

Hi there,

From what I see I strongly suggest dropping the drawings from imagination and thoroughly copying reference for a while. Not only the linework. The complete set, values and all. Working in greyscale is a good idea and as you can handle Photoshop it might be good to focus on digital for a while. Open your source photo side by side with the canvas and start to draw what you see!

Which is why this book (http://www.drawright.com/) might be very helpful as it focuses on making you draw what you see as opposed to drawing what you think you see.

For the portraits: Try to find reference which has other views, too. Not only the frontal view. A nice 3/4 view offers nice opportunities for shading and showing the character.

I like the b/w digital eyes, btw!

I've heard about that book. I'll check it out. thanks
Well my digital paintings always start as pencil drawings from reference, just along the way I change the drawing to fit my vision. this is the closest I've been to a reference image. it started as a portrait of Halle Berry

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P5270040.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P5270043.jpg
Im not very happy with how the lips and chin turned out, even thought I tried to correct it many times, it just didnt work ><
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P6290004.jpg

and another one which turned into more of a semi realism portrait (from imagination)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P5210030.jpg

Digital WIP

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/01-07-201019-23-19.jpg

[AbuAmir]

Hello! I find your sketches interesting but as a personal advice I think you need to work more on anatomical features. Study some book, make some practice and your images will improve for sure. Cheers!

[AngelaSinner]

Hello! I find your sketches interesting but as a personal advice I think you need to work more on anatomical features. Study some book, make some practice and your images will improve for sure. Cheers!

Thank you for your comment. Working on anatomical features is my main priority right now ^_^

[AngelaSinner]

Finished this one. The eyes turned out a bit weired and the shading could be better, but this is as far as I could push it

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/NadejdaFinal.jpg

and started working on a new one for which I have as a starting point one of the pencil portraits from above. I am going to turn this into a full character design so by the time I'm finished with it its going to look very different from my original drawing.
Here is where I am so far. Painting the hair turned out by far my best try.
Any constructive comments are welcome! ^_^

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/wipprincei1.jpg

[DriftingEmber]

Things seem a little flat. Where do you feel your light sources are? In the first portrait I'm also curious about that dark line across the right side of the face. Is it a hair strand?

Keep drawing! You have some interesting ideas.

[AngelaSinner]

Things seem a little flat. Where do you feel your light sources are? In the first portrait I'm also curious about that dark line across the right side of the face. Is it a hair strand?

Keep drawing! You have some interesting ideas.

Thank you for your comment. Yes they look flat because I havent defined the light source, I have trouble with that, so in the future I will do some seperate drawings concetrating just on that.
The dark line you mentioned was supposed to be a scar across her face, but I couldnt figure out how to paint it.

Here is the finished piece and some of the process. I left the clothes as an idea for now and just focused on the face.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/4-1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/5.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/FinalDorian.jpg

[aggie93]

I agree with Mr. Mu. It helped me alot to go through the figurative workshops copying master's works. Later the master copies were used to be bases for some imaginative stuff. May I also suggest to render your work from very loose lines with broad brushes to tighter harder smaller brushes for more detailed work. Work over the whole figure this way and not go straight to detail work before you have laid out the entire figure. I found that that helped me most with proportions. You have nice rendering so far, it is a bit flat, but the 3D will come with live figures. I am not a professional so take my advice for what it is worth. I just found that this advice helped me. The other guys in this forum like Mr. Mu are the real guys. Listen to them.

[AngelaSinner]

I agree with Mr. Mu. It helped me alot to go through the figurative workshops copying master's works. Later the master copies were used to be bases for some imaginative stuff. May I also suggest to render your work from very loose lines with broad brushes to tighter harder smaller brushes for more detailed work. Work over the whole figure this way and not go straight to detail work before you have laid out the entire figure. I found that that helped me most with proportions. You have nice rendering so far, it is a bit flat, but the 3D will come with live figures. I am not a professional so take my advice for what it is worth. I just found that this advice helped me. The other guys in this forum like Mr. Mu are the real guys. Listen to them.

Thank you for the advice. I will go back to basics.
I did some form and light studies today. So here is what I came up. The female was drawn from a Ron Lemon tutorial. I've never really dont studies like that before, so please let me know how I did. The last one is not finished yet

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/skullside.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/P6280009.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/female1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/male0.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/male1.jpg

[Gord-MacDonald]

Mu has made some very good points.

Some others:

carry cheap paper (in pads) wherever you go and draw everyone and everything around you - just loose fun sketches. I find using pens, mechanical pencils good (mechanical pencils because you don't need to carry masses of pencils with you and worry about sharpening them). I carry small memo pads 3.5x5 inches, up to 12x14 pads of newsprint. (check out Bobby Chui Subway Sketching: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=247487)

Also, if there are life drawing workshops available in your community sign up for them - great practice.

Good luck!

[aggie93]

Sinner - Keep your art loose like the last few posts. Study the flow of your construction and when you render put a symbol for the light source somewhere in your drawing to remind you where it is coming from and you will get the highlights and shadows down. Gord made a great suggestion about carrying a pad of paper around. I find myself doodling on everything up to a napkin at the diner. Keep it up.

[jabuhrer]

Nice progression here! Keep it up :thumbsup:

[AngelaSinner]

Gord-MacDonald
Thanks for the suggestion and link!

Anggie93
I do use symbols for the light source, sometimes I am just not sure where the light is supposed to be. I will make some studies on simple objects like cubes and spheres.

jabuhrer
thank you. ^^

I have a funny question, I thought I'll do some sketches on the train tomorow but how do you draw someone without constantly looking up at them, they might notice. I guess you have to be inconspicuous...

[AngelaSinner]

An update to my last post.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/finalmale.jpg

[AngelaSinner]

I started doing this online drawing course, with video tutorials and its really helped me. here are some of last weeks drawings I did fallowing the course. Turns out with instruction I draw much better.

Gesture

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/PA090014.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/PA090009.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/PA090007.jpg

Angels and Negative Space

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/PA090018.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/PA090016.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/PA090010.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/PA090008.jpg

[aggie93]

Looks like to me you have been doing good with your course. It is a good foundation to a finished product. I have to go back and learn that all over nearly every time I get ambitous as an artist.

[DriftingEmber]

Great improvements, congrats. :) What was the course you took?

[AngelaSinner]

Great improvements, congrats. :) What was the course you took?
tutorials from Glenn Vilppu and some good anatomy books.

Here is my month's worth of leg studies. The first ones are my first attempts and then the other ones were made after reading a bit about the structure of the leg. Any feedback is appreciated if I am doing it right or wrong what needs improving. thank you for looking!
Sorry for the poor quality, I had to take pictures of it with my camera, because I don't have a scanner yet.


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P2260007.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P2260006.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P2260009.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P3010030.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P3010026.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P2260010.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P2260011.jpg

[AngelaSinner]

this month I started studying the hand and arm. I havent watched any tutorials yet, but here is a few I came up with, looking at a reference. I find positioning the fingers really puzzling. I have to read up on it maybe.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P2260014.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P3010025.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P3010019.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Drawings/P2260016.jpg

[Skeetch]

I'm a beginner myself, and so I have no advice...except to listen to what these other artists are saying, because they know this stuff. You're improving a lot, keep it up!

[AngelaSinner]

here are some new stuff I've been working on. Not really happy with how the legs turned out on the first one.

[1]
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/CopyofP7120035.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/P7130037.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/graylady.jpg

[2]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/chair.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Ekaterina_Kernik/My%20Art/Digital%20art/girldetail.jpg

[AngelaSinner]

Havent posted anything in awhile. These are some recent figure drawings, done straight into Photoshop with my tablet. reference taken from here ref photo (http://mjranum-stock.deviantart.com/gallery/1854061?offset=96#/dzzqlp) I started playing around with shading, havent worked yet on hands, feet and heads, so thats why they are not defined, just focusing on the overall shape for now >< More will be posted soon, I aim to draw at least 3 a day of these.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff408/SpiritAnimations/Figure%20Drawing/lotuspose.jpg

WIPS
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff408/SpiritAnimations/Figure%20Drawing/wips.jpg

[Memorist]

nice progress

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