Enchanted forest - Environment/Character - Matt Clark

[Koma]

hey nice idea ,reminds me a kind of spaghetti man done by someone here dont remember who(dan dixon i think) ,but really cool ,really original the forest on is back .looking forward for an update ,i will keep an eye on this thread you are so good man really ,iam happy to see you on this chanllenge and good luck

[psumo]

cool concept
I think it would be better
if the ball looked more like
a chunk of ground he lifted
off the earth (flatter and
more triangular with roots
dangling underneath)

[lude]

Thats a really good concept!!!

I cant wait too see it! Will you do it stylized or photoreal?

lude

[element412]

OH NO. not u :argh:!!! not again... ..:D :D

anyway great idea...
but i cant figure out a great bg for this ... lets see what ur gonna do with it ..

¸elemnt

[Sgt.Pepper]

Great idea, really original.
I wonder what kind of envirement this giant creature lives in?
My first thought :lightbulb is that it would be really cool if in a possible hypermodern concrete-future he is the last forrest left on earth :)

[SeanW]

thats sweet how did you make the guy?

[hypronost]

Are you ....that guy who..... ALMOST WON EVERY CONTEST ??!!!

Why do you everytime have to steal our hope and crush it whit these beautifull models you make....why,...whyyyy !!!!!


No, seriously
That pretty darn good !!
Love the concept and the model .

Keep it up and you'll win again .

[Jacko Cohen]

:eek: :eek: WOW :eek: :eek: cool!

You are my new idol (at least until the next one comes along :p )

...and now for the mandatory bouncing balls:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Bounce Baby, Bounce!

[Sangotten]

Very original!!!:thumbsup:

Yup, I think this could one of those Cg-classics!
Anyway I think the creature of man looks okay should really be looking rough.... I know it's just a begin shot....Also the colours should be more uhhhh dark..?

Anyway,Keep it coming!!! :wip:

[Jacko Cohen]

and maybe some of these just to mke things interesting:

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ZrO-1]

That twig man is SOOooo cool. shear genious bro. Incredable.:buttrock: :buttrock:

[visualboo]

Matt: Dont you just love freehandtools. You can do some pretty cool things with that script.

[leigh]

:eek: Awesome character!! Well, I guess I wouldn't expect anything less from the great Matt Clark ;)
Looking forward to seeing how this one progresses :bounce:

[AJ]

Oh DAMMIT!!!:annoyed:

Once again, I choose to enter the challenge thinking "hehehe, Matt Clark might pass this one by..." - but no, foiled again. :shrug:

Might as well format my C:\ drive...

This idea is excellent, and the irritating thing is that you will execute it brilliantly. You talented talented talented git.

Once again - Damn you!



:cool:

[ZrO-1]

hehehe no doubt AJ...
I am SOOOOOoooo glad I'm not doing a character, and having to compete with the likes of you and Mr. Clark.

[rolhionjs]

Oh my ! this thing is gonna kill erverything here !! wow !! nice concept ! I like that ! :)

[parallax]

well, that was to be expected when i clicked the post...
great stuff.:thumbsup:
I know its a sketch, but one thing though,
the trees/roots/vines-guy is a bit uniform, i guess some difference in thickness of the spaghetti thingies could make it even better ?!

[hypercube]

Ok, I'll just nip off and shoot myself then :D

Great concept, great rough, great great. Can't wait to see it when it's done. :bowdown:

P.S. Sgt.Pepper's idea for the BG sounded interesting, but either way that's just genius.

[Iguiniz.X.]

MAN I think all the replies just say it.
It is a really cool concept.
I don't know if it is your intention but it would be cool if he was attached to the ball, Like he and the bal are one, Grown into each other?. That would make him more destined to carry it all his life. Wouldn’t it.
If! he is a living beeing.

By the way. If seen your movie on how you made the Start Wars character and I must say it is a great way you made it, it looks so easy. Of course it was >>FAST FORWARDED>>. Do you have more of those movies.
For a beginner, like me, with 3D stuff it is quite cool to see how other people use the tools.
:wavey:

[Putois_Blagueur]

I'm glad not taking part in this challenge.... this way, you can't beat me !

Great idea.

[mushroomgod]

looks very very cool, realy nice concept and fantastic modeling to boot!

only one small ( and i mean realy small ) thing is he looks as if hes going to fall over ( center of gravity and all that ), might want to think about moving him over a bit?

[stereo]

really good idea !!
your character is really interesting...... i love your concept
waiting for your updates .:lightbulb

[sherban]

so what, you're gonna post just that ONE concept sketch and hope your reputation will keep this thread alive? :shame:

C'mon, we want some updates. You're slipping. It's down to 4-stars now.

[stereo]

it s comming in some minutes
GI takes so long to render...
i m NOT sleeping ! :))

[stereo]

sorry for the previous post .....
i d better go to bed.......:surprised

[ian_foster]

Originally posted by sherban
so what, you're gonna post just that ONE concept sketch and hope your reputation will keep this thread alive? :shame:

C'mon, we want some updates. You're slipping. It's down to 4-stars now.

What kind of inane f00l are you? some people have jobs to do other than sit on a forum and post constant updates of a new finger joint or the reshaping of a tree limb.

I doubt very much Matt is bothered what people think about how many updates he does.
The only reason he, and the majority of the people here do this, is for a bit of industry notice. All studios and other pro's are really bothered with is the end result, which I'm sure will be posted in due time.

so do yourself a favour and chill a bit.


BTW, nice work so far Matt (long time no hear).

[KOryH]

Ian.
I highly doubt that that post was serious. Chill is right.
And Industry notice!? Really? Hmmm, I must rethink my priorities. I do this for fun and practice.

Ahh yes, on to Matt.
Wow! That looks really good so far. How the heck did you get those roots to make the body? Is there some sort of Max plug-in?
It just looks so cool. You have turned me in to a groveling fan boy. he he he. I want your autograph...on my butt! JK
Really outstanding start. You could push the pose and perspective a bit though.

Later

[visualboo]

There's a plugin called freehandtools. It's great.

Get it here Fred Moreau (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/maxevangelists/Download/mxs/Mfht32.zip)

[visualboo]

Here's a simple vid I just made for the people that dont know about it. It's 1.3 mb

Get it here (http://www.visualboo.addr.com/movies/helpers/freehand tools.avi)

[ZrO-1]

Ahhh so Freehand tools works just like Maya's 3D paint tool. Cool.

[Matt-Clark]

Hello, thanks for all the comments.

I'm as busy as hell, but I'll try and post an update later.

Just to address what has been said:

> The rock is just a place holder and will look very different

> These colours bare no resemblance to what I have planned...

>Vines will vary in thickness.. I've scripted it now :)

>Yes, he will merge into the rock more.

>When you see his legs you can see that he's actually balanced and not about to fall over.

>Freehand tools have indeed been used, as has Wire Jumble.


Cheers,

[SCIFI-3D-zoo]

Hey, MATT.

Yea, kool concept. I agree... I think it would be kool if it leaned more towards the original concept and was a "piece" of earth on his back. Not a globe, or scaled down earth or planet, which some might get the impression of. It would be kool if it was like a little world that some people lived on with clouds and stuff... and they didn't know they were really living on the back of this other creature.

Sorta like a tick on dog. The tick doesn't know it's a dog. They probably think it's a big forrest. There was some old Warner Bros. cartoons like that where these ticks lived on a dog, and they have villages, even a circus, on this dogs back.

[Dr.Jones]

Very nice concept, hope to see more soon.

[Howard Day]

I would reference the Discworld novels by Terry Pratchett. Some of the most absolute funniest stuff ever. Do a search for it, if you don't already know. To get you hooked, here are the 4 directions (much like nort,west,east,south)
Hubward
Coreward
Spinward
Widdershins.

Heh. :D

Oh, the discworld is suspended in space on the backs of 4 giant elephants, and those are standing on the back of a giant turtle. The biggest theological discussion on the Disc is this:

"What sex is the turtle?"

Hope this gives you a flavor of what I'm getting at...

Good work!

[leigh]

Oooh yeah Howard, those books are fantastic!! And absolutely hysterical too. I think all the participants in this month's challenge could benefit, inspiration-wise, from reading a couple of those novels. I know I've had loads of crazy yet cool ideas from them!

Actually, there is a book out there (can't remember who published it though) on the art of the Discworld, with lots of cool sketches and paintings of the cities (although no picture could ever give the reader an idea of the smell of Ankh-Morpork), which would be a cool reference too...

Heheheh I actually met Terry Pratchet a couple of years back, and you'd never think that this little man in a safari suit could come up with such wacky books!

Go Luggage!! :buttrock:

[dmcgrath]

"...the entire Purpose of the Universe is to make possible a being that will live in England, an island off the coast of France, and spend hsi time writing Discworld novels. Which is exactly what he does."

hehehe

[AJ]

Now I'm not normally one to divert the nature of a thread from it's original topic...

(You may want to wipe the coffee from your screen)

Oh, here we go (again) - It's been said that Pratchett is one of those things that lots of people enjoy, but feel guilty... And to announce that you read Pratchett in public is akin to admitting murder to most people.

But the Discworld books are excellent!

And Luggage is by far one of the greatest characters ever devised (with the possible exception of 'the Death of Rats') :bounce:






(Please still talk to me)

[Matt-Clark]

Ok, so I've been a bit slack in updating this time, but that only because of the lack of hours in the day ;)

Here's where I am:

http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/forest5.jpg

This only really represents 20% or so of what I have in mind (although I think I'm probably being over ambitious...).

Needless to say lots will change:
* more variation in the actual forest (and a slightly different (taller) composition to show it off more). Possibly signs of habitation which I started to hint at here.
* the rock itself will be more detailed (both maps and geometry), with vines and roots etc.
*general lighting and colours/environment are not final.
*working on some atmospheric stuff - clouds and fog.
*twig man will get a further layer of very thin vines and branches to help convey his size. Possibly work on his textures.

[Adam]

oh my god that is a great update. really great idea. what are your plans for the background?

great work

[SCIFI-3D-zoo]

Again, I think it would be more dramatic if the scale of the world on the ball was larger. I mean a huge forrest, a little world on there. A little sky of clouds just over the ball. It's like it's own little world on his back.

The ball texture should look more like earth... with dirt and rocks.
I'm sure this part you plan on changing alot.

Maybe have vines going from his arms into the ball too. It's almost like he's stuck to this ball. Maybe it can be like a wart on his back. This guy is slaved to carry this world on his back?

[Matt-Clark]

Hello George, fancy seeing you here. ;)

Yes - the other thing I was going to mention was the scale of the forest. It's all going down (so in effect the rock and the carrier are huge).

[KOryH]

cool.

[Dragonius]

very cool

how about a waterfall coming over the side?

[MagnusL3D]

This is insane, very very good :) How did you do twigman so ..uhm "fast" ? looks great !! Waiting for more.

[Mike Pauza]

Very artsy...keep going man.

[pearson]

Well, this is very ambitious, Matt, and you're off to a great start! I really like the legs and how they flow into the torso! :buttrock:

[SCIFI-3D-zoo]

I've been around here posting things from time to time. In some of your posts too. I guess I got lost in the shuffle.

Never hear from you or in email so I figured I'd stop by here since mutual friends tell me you posted something here. See what's going on. Know you're busy. Good luck.

[Dr.Jones]

AARRG!!! That's soooo gooood. I'm jalous.

[Sangotten]

Truly amazing!!!

I think the creature looks great! as for the forrest maybe an older building would be nice...?

Anyway, great job (as usual)!!!

:thumbsup:

[pascal_blanche]

you came out with a really unusual idea Matt.. looks promising!!

[Carlocki]

since now my vote is yuors

[Joril]

Oh no! :eek:
Matt's at it again, everyone brace for impact.

Love it! :thumbsup:

[Equinoxx]

matt ma boy, outstanding as usual . . .

I don't like the face to well tho. .. imo he shouldn't have a face at all . . . only the shape of a head . . .

but that's prolly my personal taste . . .

[dobermunk]

I agree with equinoxx.
Couldn't figure out what was bothering me about it but now that he mentions it, the tech aspect of the face (eyes, etc.) doesn't seem in keeping with the organic wood feel of the (great) body.

[dobermunk]

sick!

thankx for the vid, visualboo.

[MickLockwood]

Looks really good......

[elfufu]

all it needs is a bunch of naked girls in the forrest.:p

[dmcgrath]

Id have to disagree with the face comments before. I think the thing that might be unsetteling to people is the fact that the face is looking out at us. That's all, really.
You can turn it away so it isn't engaging the audience, and no one will even notice.
Or keep IT looking at us and give us something to haunt our minds for a little while after we see (but we can't quite put our finger on ) it.

[Prisoner]

Incredible.
UPADATE!!UPADATE!!UPADATE!!UPADATE!! :D

[diazgl]

excellent thought Matt. I really like your design, its very original. BUT (damn i like being a BUT), i'm not as sure as I would say this is an enchanted forest, but then again, i'm seeing only up to 20% of the whole thing. I'd agree with Equinoxx about the face, excellent remark IMO. Also, some of the roots or trunks, look like worms, due to texture and model. And one last comment, or rather idea, how bout he holds a piece of land, that's been recently ripped off the ground? You could make pieces of land falling, dirt, deep roots hanging from the bottom.

[Carlocki]

My own critique
so the eyes of the Atlas make everything too much ....Iron Maiden 's Eddie.
to me the forest on the rock could be remain just a forest with no architecuture...it cuold be enough yet.
the background white is fascinating..neutral i like it
the rock need more texturing and detaling...as to be as a real pice of ground.....realism insted of fantastic shape of hte Atlas
and for last...where is an update?

[Reo]

yah thats alright......if your into that sort of thing..........: )


Well matt my boy you have yet again showed us all that you are in fact the most creative character sulpture around.


I dig this one almost as much as the last one. (I thought that Ganesha was a nice touch by the way!)



Keep it up I may get involved in the next one now that I'm back on the forum. Got to make up for lost time




later ..................damn yah I'm digg'n that :bowdown:

[Matt-Clark]

Thanks for all the replies. I've not been able to update and work on my challenge as often as I've done in the past due to other commitments.

Because of this I'm not going to have time to finish this challenge, so I thought I'd try and get a something pleasing out of it before it's thrown on the 'unfinished' heap.

http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/version2.jpg

I've turned it into more of a photoshop creation, so I'll exclude myself from the challenge, but I think I'll try and finish the image when I have time. There's a few things here I plan to deal with; not happy with the sky (esp round the top of the image), there's those annoying branches to the right of his head that don't look natural, and the trees still look a bit to uniform (they're obviously all cloned ;) )

Cheers,

[visualboo]

Ummm.... :surprised

[ian_foster]

Hey Matt,
What a real shame you can't finish that. Such an original idea too.
Probably would have won the way the last image was looking..

Ah well.

[Carlocki]

to me too
i never expect so much fo an update.
believe me the best concept ever!

keep tough and go on

[SCIFI-3D-zoo]

I guess in a way it's good you can't finish it. That means you got some good work lined up to pay the bills with. Good luck.

[ZrO-1]

I don't understand why you would have to pull it from the challenge. Even if its all composited together in PS the character and major elements are 3D...so I don't see why it would have to be pulled.

I love that last pic. It really is top notch, professional work.

[Wacom Knight]

Just simply excellent.

[diazgl]

shame man, shame....you should make this for your pportfolio though, excellent concept.

[Sangotten]

Awesome!!!

that's really a great scene, it's a shame you won't finish it for the challenge....

...Damn that's really f*cking good!!!!:thumbsup:

[Matt-Clark]

Originally posted by diazgl
shame man, shame....you should make this for your pportfolio though, excellent concept.

Yep, I'm definitely going to do something with it. It's just a case of not being sure whether it'll be finished for the deadline or whether the route I'm taking it means that it breaches the bounds of the challenge.


Originally posted by Zoo
I guess in a way it's good you can't finish it. That means you got some good work lined up to pay the bills with. Good luck.

I don't rely on the freelancing to pay the bills anymore, that proved far too unreliable. It never ceased to amaze me how during my 2 years of freelancing clients insisted on walking all over me and generally treating me like sh*t.
So for the last 5 months I've been working fulltime in a games studio, as well as keeping my hand at freelancing with some loyal clients *and* doing stuff on the side like these Challenges. That's why I'm always whining about not having much time. :)

[diazgl]

great to hear that Matt!! I'm looking forward for updates then..!

Funny, i always thought that being a freelance artist always had a steady source of income....shows how much I know!!

[icky]

Hey Matt,

Well done with what you've done in such a short space of time! How did you manage to do all that and not get sacked from your day job?

Also, the 'Wire Jumble' thing that you mentioned, does that create the swisting vines? I'm new to this and at the mo, I can't figure out how the fudge you modeled this awesome thing!?

:buttrock:

[Mr_Pink]

Really nice Modeling.

[Capt.Jackass]

I guess free lancing isn't the dream life i thought it was... making your own hours and working out of the comfort of your own home

=)

i'm so disillusioned...

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