Enchanted forest - Environment/Character - .::STRIKE::.

[Error323]

that's a pretty nice pic! Only I don't like the background... it's too "Fake" If u know what i mean.... u can see easaly that it's put behind your scene.

:: Error

[Koma]

nice to see you on this one to ,good start but the background effectivly look fake ,keep it up and good luck

[rolhionjs]

Yeah you were right for the background, so how about this one ?

Well i add a main tree on the first plan on the left, but i have to add details like vegetals and this kind around. The main idea is to put my future character near the main tree.


http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai3.jpg

[Elfe__noire]

The new picture look better...i"m waitting to see your your futur caractere in this scene...lache pas et bonne chance... :beer:





P.S. le desing de ton site web est vraiment cool!!

[leigh]

Hey Strike, good to see you back for yet another challenge!!! Loking very cool so far :thumbsup:
I'm also looking forward to seeing what sort of character you are going to do...
Good luck! :)

[rolhionjs]

Thanks to both of you for your encouragments :) :)

here is a small update of the environment. I think later i'll add details but for now i have to work on my character :)

here is the forest :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai4.jpg

[Koma]

de mieux en mieux wow ,la derniere est tres jolie
keep it up man ,iam hurry to see your character:thumbsup:

[leigh]

Hmmmm... texture and colour-wise it's looking cool, but...
...those volumetric beams don't seam to match up to the actual physical environment :surprised
I find the best (and quickest way) to get your volumetric pass out, is to make a scene with plain black matte versions of all your objects, and then just render the light out of that scene, and composite that pass over the normal render (using the Screen blending mode in Photoshop works perfectly ;)).
This not only saves loads of rendering time, but also allows you far greater control over the intensity of the volumetric beams.

[rolhionjs]

I don't know if i understood everything, but if i put this light in compositing after doing what you say, then i'll be not able to animate later correctly no ? But it's maybe my bad english that causes this misunderstood ... Anyway, in fact in the scene i have two lights : the volumetric one, (sure it's long to render) and a front spot light i just cleared on this last render :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai5.jpg

So when i deleted this one then shadows are too dark near the main tree i think... no ?
but if the problem came from the beams, then i can reduce intensity of the procedural maybe... hummm... in fact i don't really understand... If someone could translate i would help me alot :)

Anyway, thx Leigh for your advices.

[Elfe__noire]

Beau paysage...deplus en plus claire...de plus en plus detaillé...J'ai hate de voir la scene final...


I wish good luck to you...
:thumbsup:

[leigh]

Actually I prefer the contrast now that the spot is gone. I would keep it like this! It's got more mood now.... :drool:

As for the volumetrics...
Ummm...I don't speak French, so let me explain it more simply:

Take the volumetric light out of your scene. Render it, and save your render.

Make copies of all your objects and make all their surfaces completely black. With no specularity or anything. Just plain black. Then save your scene with a new name, and replace all the current objects with the black ones.

Then set up your volumetric light to shine through the objects.

Now, render your scene out. This will render faster because their are no image maps, and colour info to slow the render process down.
Save your render and then take it into Photoshop, and place it over the normal render (the one without the volumetric light), using the Screen blending mode.

If you are planning to animate it, then just render everything out as sequences of 32-bit Targa files - that way you can composite them in After Effects, or Combustion, or whatever.

Does this make more sense???
:)

[rolhionjs]

wow yeah Leigh : a perfect explanation :) thx alot for this great tutorial :)

I'm gonna try this, and after that i just start my character.. :)

Thx elfe noir ! :)

[eirenicon]

Leigh, thanks a ton, you've just made my life easier. Volumetrics take waaay too long to render :rolleyes:

STRIKE: Very cool scene, I'm looking forward to updates.

[ZrO-1]

Strike: beutiful composition I really like your enviroment's design. I just would like to suggest one thing. Since you have that one tree which is right in the forground of you picture I would recomend putting a lot of detail into the textures on it. It looks OK now, but you can still see some of the pollygon edges, and the texture looks really flat. Just my humble opinion, it looks really great otherwise.

[Bahlswede]

Really nice stuff Strike, a person can really see where your going with it. Can't wait to see more :thumbsup:

[Gilgamesh]

I was impressed with how fast you worked on the last challenge, but this I think was even faster. Once more I like your textures. Good work so far.

[rolhionjs]

Thx all ! :)

I just start the main character. Temporary texture for now, and i have to finish modelisation. Here's the start for the head :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/challenge4_tete.jpg

[leigh]

Hey Strike! That character is looking very cool :thumbsup: Heheheh he looks like a boxer with that skew lip - Syvelster Stallone-ish :p
Very cool, as usual :)

[rolhionjs]

Beuuaarrrgggg ... adriennneee !!! :) hihi

Well here is a little vision of the future scene... what do you think ? Maybe to usual no ?


http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/challenge4_tete2.jpg

[Iguiniz.X.]

HOW in the world do you make those environments so fast?
And they look so photo realitic?
I don't have much coment except that the light is really low.
It makes it quite mysterious but less natural. and it is really bright. Maybe if you made the light more dim (< I mean more spread and less bright, Don't know if this is the tight name (DIM)) so you can see the mist (<-- clouds hanging on the ground, what are the called?)

Great going:cool: :wavey:

[rolhionjs]

yeah you're right, maybe i should reduce intensity of this light :) the clouds on the ground ? fog no ? Thx for the constructive comment Iguiniz.X. :)

[Iguiniz.X.]

Yes it is fog.


Now I remeber

[Clanger]

Fantasic, I'm mean with my stars and this is a 5.

The char slightly reminds me of the guy in StarTrek NG who disappared with Wes Crusher.

[Russo]

Volume Light RULEZ!!! :thumbsup:

[Elfe__noire]

La face de ton bonhomme je la trouve bien partie..si tu es capables de bien la faire fité avec les rest du corps sa va etre superbe..... Lache pas strike...:beer:

[rolhionjs]

thanks to all for the support ! :)

here's an update for the head but it's just a beginning of texturing for the skin. After that, let's start the helmet, and rest of the body :)

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai6.jpg

[Putois_Blagueur]

WAOAW !!!!

T'es vraiment balèze ! Personnelement, je trouvais la première scène de forêt plus jolie (celle qui est plus claire). Tu devrais rajouter un brouillard volumétrique très léger mais partout, comme ça, on aura l'impression qu'il fait chaud et humide dans ta forêt.
Autre chose, je voulais savoir si sur la première image de la tête de ton bonhomme, le model low-poly est juste smoothé pour obtenir celui de droite. Si oui, j'applaudis parce qu'il n'y a pas beaucoup de faces et le model lissé est superbe.

Au passage, tu utilises MAYA ou 3DS ?

Encore bravo, continue.....

[rolhionjs]

Putoi-blagueur : J'utilise Lightwave, et en fait il y a l'option subpatch qui permet de d'arrondire les angles en plus du smooth de la surface :) Excellent Lightwave.
Pour les remarques de la lumière : je verrai ça tout à la fin de la scène après modélisation du perso.

For now here are some render of the head (not finished yet)

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai7.jpg

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai8.jpg

[Elfe__noire]

Tres beau ..bravo..la j'ai hate de voir le quel je vais prefere entre le tien et celui de Gabe...j'ai hate de voir la final!!!continu comme sa STRIKE tu es bien parti!!


:beer:

[rolhionjs]

well week end is starting, so let's work.

I finished main part of texturing for the head, i'll update details later, but here's the result for now.

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai9.jpg

Now let's do the body....

[rolhionjs]

here's a start for the body... Not many details for now, coz i think i'm gonna wear him . His race : Squizzo... why... uhhmmm... don't know...

And texturing is far to be perfect, in fact i post just to show you the body.

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai91.jpg

[The Time Serpent]

i know its not a political site, but your guy's face look like Arafat after a fist fight :) hee hee hee :)
but the char looks awesome:thumbsup:

[Koma]

pas mal cool strike j'ai hate de voir le produit fini ,pour les souliers j'avais 160 $ mais je te fait un prix ,80 ,ca fait un bon bargain 50 %..........................mouhahahahaha...........:cool: :thumbsup: :beer:

[amusedtoe]

didnt realize arafats ears were taht big :D
looks great :thumbsup:
-peace

[Elfe__noire]

Salut strike vraiment beau ton bonhomme...malheureusement on perd un peu de detail car le scene est un peu sombre mais on a tout de meme une bonne idee du corps de ton bonhomme


lache pas j'ai hate de le voir dans la foret...


:beer:

[rolhionjs]

A little update with main characters incrustated in the scene :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai92.jpg

[leigh]

:surprised that is looking...really strange. But cool nonetheless!! :thumbsup:
I'm not sure that the lighting on the characters is right though - they don't seem to blend in properly...

[rolhionjs]

well after many test of scene, i think this angle of view will be the best. I finally decided to delete my procedural, and having a panoramic view.

Next step : better texturing and modeling details like mushrooms, jacket of the two Squizzo and i'll see :)

here's the update :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai94.jpg

[AJ]

I have to say - that if you combined the two images... it would be a really nice composition.

The closeness of the characters is nice - and the ability to see more surroundings is also nice. The darkness/contrast is also better (IMHO) in the one you had before - especially the green in the image.

But it's coming along far too quickly for my liking - Slow down! ;) :D

[jbrophy]

Great looking

I feel your last post, overall looks nice, but the one before it, had sooo much more depth and feeling to it that the last one seems to have lost. If you could somehow combine the two I feel you are on to something great. Just my opinion. The 2nd before last one I was like wow, then I felt a little let down by the way the last one looked. The sharp contrast between light and dark and the depth from the lighting I think really raised the bar of the image

Keep it up

[rolhionjs]

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/scenearbre002.jpg

[dodo3d]

:applause: :applause: :applause:
This one is better than the last
did u change the contrast of ur lights?
How did u got this great looking grass:thumbsup: ?
keep going u have got my vote;)

[rolhionjs]

hey thanks ! :)

In fact i just add a low procedural behind the characters and higher than the old one... it doesn't seem to change alot but by puting more intensity in the front light, it changed suprisely the whole scene by just transforming this one in a area light :) :)

The grass is done with sasquatch for lightwave :) And finally i added more blur to 45 % for the back :)

[rolhionjs]

another test but i'm not sure of the result

This time i cleared procedural, i added fog and put less intensity of the main front light

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai96.jpg

[dodo3d]

:shrug:
I think I like the darker version (the one before this image)

[Aearon]

yeah, the lighting on the one before was the best, what i don't like about it is the light from the front left, it produces way too harsh shadows, what's supposed to be the source of that ?

[MBUUN]

I really like that character. The forest is looking very realistic, too. Lighting is one of the things I wanted to concentrate on as well, so I was paying attention to your lighting which is coming along great. Do you plan to have any type of shadow map simulating the suns rays shining through the foliage on the tree and/or characters? That's about all I could suggest, otherwise it's great. :applause:

[ZrO-1]

Here's a suggestion you could try with the lighting Strike:
Try placing a greenish ambient type light directly overhead and set it at a low intensity. That might help soften the shadows a bit as well as suggest filtered light coming in from above the tree canopy.
BTW, your textures are absolutely awesome (as always ;) ). I really like the plants you have for ground cover also.

[rolhionjs]

well... i begin to be tired of these lightning tests... I don't find the good parameters... :(

I tryed to take all your comments for this last image, but i have a problem with a shadow map from the left. In fact i don't know how must be the image map... Color, form, format to make it in photoshop... Can someone help ?

Thanks to all of you for all your positive comments :)

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai98.jpg

[rolhionjs]

As i already said, i begin to get mad of these lightning parameters... so here is a new image of a model i'm gonna put into the scene. In fact i'm gonna give the final scene, a very large view of what it will be. Right to the actual scene i'm gonna add this kinda lizard (a wamapa :) ) being attack by the main warrior of the clan, the two others just looking to the fight.

So technically, as i find a good way for realistic light on this last image, i'm gonna make differently and totally the actual scene. I have to re-build all my scene with those parameters... And it's gonna be long...

About this model : a simple monster named wamapa :)

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai99.jpg

[Elfe__noire]

Cool ton dernier p'tit monster...pis tno bonhomme est vraiment cool!! Ton a tres bien travailler strike

[Dark_Des]

Tu as vraiment bien progressé Strike, bon boulot, dis moi pour le brouillard tu as utilisé des lumières volumetriques ou bien des hypervoxels? Parce que pour un de mes travaux en cours j'aimerai avoir un brouillard convaincant le tien est vraiment bien.

Keep us updated. :beer:

[Dark_Des]

Ah oui, au fait quand tu auras terminé se serait bien si tu pouvais m'envoyez tes derniers travaux pour mettre ta galerie à jour sur AbsolutlyDark.

[rolhionjs]

Salut Dark_Des :)

Pour le brouillard c'est avec une spot light en volumétrique à l'arrière plan, et une shadow map sur le côté pour les rayons lumineux.

Pour les dernières images tu peux piocher sur mon site ou même ici si tu estimes que certaines en valent la peine ;)
Tu verras sur mon forum j'ai rajouté un forum et une section WIP ou tu trouveras toutes les dernières réalisations en construction ou non ;)

Merci de ton soutien, et bonne continuation à toi. :)

PS : J'ai vu ton WIP sur 3DVF : c'est très bien parti :) +++++

[MagnusL3D]

You cant have the others attacking the wamapa, hes to cute for beeing attacked !! :) ..very nice scene, curious to see the wamapa in there !

[rolhionjs]

Plus it's a baby wamapa, human size... can you imagine the mother :) :) ... mmmhhHH.... gave me an idea :) :) héhé !!!!

[MagnusL3D]

They are gonna kill a BABY wamapa ?!?..ooh that just evil !! :)

[rolhionjs]

they're hungry and need leather to wear themselves :) Wamapa skin is one of the best for leather armor :)

Gabe are you here ? do you want shoes in wamapa leather ?? :) :) héhé

[ZrO-1]

I could use a new pair of shoes. That baby Wamapa leather is supposed to be great fo shoes and boots :twisted: :D

Strike, your lighting looks pretty darn sweet in those last two pics. I like it a lot more than your first versions.

[rolhionjs]

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/arbreessai993.jpg

ZrO-1 : I note :) : One pair of wamapa shoes.... hmmm which size ? :)

Well in this image nothing new except the wamapa in the scene.

[ZrO-1]

That pic looks really great! *wamapa shoes here we come*

[Koma]

he he mes souliers sont effectivement confectionner en cuir de wamapa qui est un cuir tres resistant au intemperi et surtout pratiquement indechirable tres utile pour les monstres habitant les forets .


hey serious cool update :bounce:

[OZ]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Is a lot of time that i dont jump here...and!KAZAAAAAMMMMMM!!!! :eek: ....surprise! U HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB!A....AMAZING.........OH....if only i could rate this thread......:buttrock: ROKKA MAN!

[Dark_Des]

Et bien ça avance sec on dirait... elle est cool ta bestiole.

[rolhionjs]

Well thanks Gabe, Oz and Dark Des :)

It's a long time i didn't update coz of external works, so now i have a little more time, i'm gonna work on the main thing... héhé... ;) This actual scene ? Not the main part of the final one... just a little thing ...

I will let you discover the surprise soon... :)

[dodo3d]

surprise:drool:
I can't wait to see the new update
Good luck
and the animal on the right dose he have a legs cause he seams to be grown up from the grass?:shrug:

[rolhionjs]

so here's the modeling of the main tree :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/scene001.jpg


and a start for texturing :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/scene002.jpg

[GrAnt]

I will join OZ in with his strange onamatopoeias:
KAAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAM WHHHHHOOOOOOOOHEEEEE HAAAAAYZAAAAAAAA EISSSSSSSSH SHEEEEEAAALO!!!!!!!!

Great work man! I love the texture on those guys, they look like they grew from the ground! And that treestump??? *speechless* how did you do those little patches of grass on it??

Amazing work!:applause:

[dmcgrath]

.::STRIKE::.
Wow man, of course after your last challenge, I shouldn't be surprised to find out that your newest work will be of equal quality. No crits yet, this is just a fanboy post for now. :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock::buttrock:

[Koma]

wooooooooooooooooww !!! amazing go strike go strike

[Lorenzo]

I like also the ambience.
:wip: :bounce:
good work

[rolhionjs]

Thanks for all these great comments ! :o)

Virtuoso : i hope so... but as long i have fun, it's the main thing :o)

Grant : i don't know if i merit this onamatopoeias lol but thanks ! :o)

dmcgrath : Thx i do my best by learning in the same time :o) But not easy sometimes to keep doing the same quality :)


Well now, here's a new model for the scene... Give you an idea of the final one ? :o) :o) I let you guess ! :)
here's my TV Droid : TV4D hehe !


http://www.neokulture.com/uploads/Strike/droid001.jpg

[Koma]

mouhahahaha ,really funny droid ,tv4d hi hi hi:bounce:

[rolhionjs]

a little incrustation to begin

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/droid_hutte.jpg

[dodo3d]

:applause:
wow great grass ,great texture and great idea
I think that the volume light in the right dosn't fit the image may be I am rong but I don't like it
and the scale of the robot's leg is so small and so the scal of the robot
but u still have my vote

[GrAnt]

Hot digity damn! Good stuff Strike (as usual!) :) Ummm the fact that you can't see whats on the lil tv screen bothers me just a teeny beet, maybe reduce that highlight?

[Edit] Do'H! Just realised that it isnt a highlight...a little less bright white? Ok...I'll shutup now

[rolhionjs]

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/scene003.jpg

[MagnusL3D]

This is looking very good :) the "hut grass" is very good..the ground grass perhaps need some tweaking.. keep it upp !! :thumbsup:

[rolhionjs]

Well sorry for the big size, but it's for you to see details... A long work to do this last one... And that's why i didn't post alot during these last days.

I'll try different renders for the final one, but the main idea is here.

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/final_june001.jpg

[ZrO-1]

Very cool STRIKE! I love the work you are doing for this piece. I think the only thing I can crit is that it looks like the textures in the female are getting stretched a bit on the sides.

[Rhid1en]

It's looking amazing. I really loved the original image you were working on though, wish you could still see it, it's so tiny now!

[rolhionjs]

Very close to the final render... some details and i'll stop

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/final_june002.jpg

[cmortier]

Wow, is it a dryad ?

[Howard Day]

Nice. The middle of the image is a bit too blurry. Messes up the DOF, and the viewer's interpretation of distance...

Other than that, good stuff.

[rolhionjs]

a new render with a slow DOF
and new lights

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/final_june003.jpg

[Koma]

wooooooow !!! really nice pic men but where are your wamapa .....he he........

[ZrO-1]

I'm wearing the wamapa on my feet :twisted: :D

Seriously though, Strike...that is friggin awesome. That refined DOF did the trick. God, that is a truly goregous image you have created. :applause: :applause:

[rolhionjs]

maybe the final one :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/final_june_strike.jpg

[ZrO-1]

LMAO!!!!:scream: :D :p :scream: :D

[leigh]

:eek: :eek:
Holy crap that's cool!! And funny too :p
Awesome work Strike!! :applause:
I LOVE IT!!! Brilliant!! You have such a great style :)

[rolhionjs]

Thank you all for your support !

I don't know how many hours i spent to finish this image, but like alot of people (i think), i did this one during nights between work and family life... so this time i want to thanks my wife Julie who supported my "absences" sometimes without telling anything except a great moral support :) :love:

Next challenge i'll will not be here i think due to my annual holidays (YES!!! :) ) so i wish all the next challengers a great fun, coz after all that's why we do that ! :) FUN POWWERRRR !

See you all next next challenge ! :)

[rolhionjs]

Here is the final touch, final image for the challenge :



because of the bigger size, here's just the link :) (http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/final_june004.jpg)

[ZrO-1]

That's really awesome Strike. The pictures look fantastic and I really like the idea of making it like a comic strip. Two thumbs up from me. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[rolhionjs]

hmmm... not many comments about the last link except ZR01 (thanks man :) )

What do you think all about this concept and the final image ? Coz there's alot of views for this thread but not really thoughts... Just wondering...

[UrbanFuturistic]

I think everyone's said it. Cool! :cool:
regards, Paulhttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/odubtaig/smilies/coffee.gif

[on-screen]

shocking surprise work in Lightwave.Hope that i can join the upcoming challange..
:surprised:

[Koma]

yah really cool ......where are my shoe ? he he he ......really funny

you have my vote for sure

[Chico]

Stike....I dont know exactly what it is, but I absolutly love your work:thumbsup:

Theres a roughness to it, a sorta grunge that most ppl miss, and it really makes this stand out from alot of others. This holds nice and true to our last entry.

Keep it up Strike:applause:

[rolhionjs]

odubtaig, on-screen : thanks for the comments ! :)

Gabe : hehe ! due to our conversations through your and my thread, i finally finished on this shoe stuff for the comic ;) thanks man ! :)

Chico : Thanks alot for your great comment ! It's an honnor you like it ! really ! I tried to do something different, and even if it's weird, i'm happy some people likes this final thing ! thx !


Well tonight it's holidays, so see you all in a couple of weeks !

Bye all !

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/final_june004.jpg

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