Dell Monitor suggestion

[cgbeige]

I just bought a second monitor to replace a flickering HP L2335 and it arrived yesterday. I have an NEC 2490WUXi Spectraview but the new one is the 2490WUXi2 which is, by all accounts, an inferior screen. It lacks an A-TW polarizer, which limits glow and glare so the original WUXi is way more solid looking in the blacks and there is no dropoff in the corners when looking at it. It's really a huge difference. Otherwise, it's a great screen for accurate colour and I've been using it with Photoshop, Nuke and Maya with no complaints. Dark images with Lightroom are annoying though.

I knew this was a problem before I paid $1200 for this screen but it's still the best screen in that price range from what I can tell. It's not a wide-gamut screen, which is good because Nuke and Maya don't work with wide-gamut monitors so you end up with pink reds, etc. that can't be calibrated away. I do print work so I wanted to have two screens with the same consistent colour and the Spectraview add-on is important for this (apparently you can't just use the software with the newer screens if they weren't purchased as SV [Spectraview] monitors). It works on my older one. It's annoying since you get two i1 hardware calibrators with two screens - I have to sell my original i1 on eBay today.

You're probably wondering why I would spend $1200 to get a "flawed" display. After a lot of research, I think this is the best sRGB (not wide-gamut) screen you can get without getting into $2000+ Eizo LCDs (that still use older tech). From what I read, the Dells are wide-gamut and are not very good for professional use, even if you use the sRGB option on the U-whatever model.

[biliousfrog]

Nuke and Maya don't work with wide-gamut monitors so you end up with pink reds, etc. that can't be calibrated away.

From what I read, the Dells are wide-gamut and are not very good for professional use, even if you use the sRGB option on the U-whatever model.

Complete and utter nonsense.

http://www.artstorm.net/journal/200...-2408/#comments (http://www.artstorm.net/journal/2009/07/color-management-wide-gamut-dell-2408/#comments)

[cgbeige]

That page says what I said: programs that aren't colour profile aware, like Maya, don't show the proper image on a wide gamut display because it assumes that everything's going to be sRGB on the display end:

Non Color Managed Applications
Even though the display now has been calibrated and profiled, non color managed applications will still display colors incorrectly, this is especially true on wide gamut displays. And there is simply nothing that can be done about that except using color managed applications. Wide gamut displays are great and the future, but software developers need to catch up with the new hardware and stop assuming all displays are within the sRGB range. I guess this will happen in the coming years and more and more applications will start using and respect color profiles.

Maya doesn't even embed colour profiles in the images it writes, let alone the images it reads. It was only after some noodling around that I found that it is close to sRGB but like I said, it doesn't REPORT anything to the OS about what colour profile it's using so there can be no correction by Colorsync on OS X or whatever to show it onscreen properly. I do images for print so I spent a lot of time looking for this info.

Now I get to reply to your comment: poppycock!

[frog]

For the time being, wide-gamut displays are a pain in the backside.

[debashish]

Complete and utter nonsense.

http://www.artstorm.net/journal/200...-2408/#comments (http://www.artstorm.net/journal/2009/07/color-management-wide-gamut-dell-2408/#comments)
thanks for the link, very much informative,
but still im not able to find a particular model to go with :(
are samsung monitors any good

EDIT:- btw im upgrading my card to ATI Radeon HD 5970 :buttrock:

[cgbeige]

Before I bought the WUXi 2490, I bought a Samsung 245T. It was not cheap but still really bad with the wide gamut problems and like I said, they couldn't be calibrated away since it wasn't a problem with the monitor necessarily, it's the applications.

If you can find an sRGB LCD monitor that has good reviews, then go with it. But that's not any of the Dells currently and they are getting harder to find by the day, since companies are in a MegaHurtz war of wide-gamut since consumers think it's the best thing ever.

[eaclou]

If you can afford to wait a month or two, there are two promising 24" sRGB monitors coming out.

The NEC2490wuxi (not 2) is getting a replacement in the PA241, a 24" with a 3D LUT (look-up table) which allows it to accurately display both wide gamut and sRGB. It's expected to cost around the same (~$1100)

A cheaper alternative, which I am following closely, is HP's successor to the LP2475w (which was wide gamut IPS), the ZR24w, a 24" sRGB IPS for ~$450-500. It will lack alot of the pro features of the NEC PA241, but the price should make up for that.

[debashish]

If you can afford to wait a month or two, there are two promising 24" sRGB monitors coming out.

The NEC2490wuxi (not 2) is getting a replacement in the PA241, a 24" with a 3D LUT (look-up table) which allows it to accurately display both wide gamut and sRGB. It's expected to cost around the same (~$1100)

A cheaper alternative, which I am following closely, is HP's successor to the LP2475w (which was wide gamut IPS), the ZR24w, a 24" sRGB IPS for ~$450-500. It will lack alot of the pro features of the NEC PA241, but the price should make up for that.

1-2 months is ok with me.
NEC don't have service/retailer in our country, Called up HP they don't have any idea about ZR24w, rather they suggesting me some display around $2000 - $2800 :hmm:

[cgbeige]

That NEC monitor isn't going to be cheaper than the 2490. And any screen that says "AdobeRGB and 100% sRGB coverage" means that it's wide-gamut. They are just saying that the big gamut is larger and covers sRGB, which is still a problem.

Hopefully that HP is good since it looks like it's going to be replacing the 2490 as the only sRGB monitor around.

[andytw]

If you want sRGB without wide gamut support then the Samsung F2380 may be worth a look.
It uses a cPVA panel, is full HD resolution and has a lot of positive reviews (and a few negative ones).

I'd suggest reading the reviews though as it's downsides may not be relevant to you unless you do colour accurate photo work.

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