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richcz3
08-29-2003, 03:59 AM
Before one runs headlong into saying "Hell Yeah" they will, this series of questions gives some food-for-thought scenarios.

http://www.overclockers.com/articles820/

richcz3

GregHess
08-29-2003, 12:56 PM
Something to keep in mind...

Though www.overclockers.com is a fantastic site with a wealth of information...

You also have to realize their articles are not targeted towards us. They are their own seperate community. One which usually looks for the cheapest solution that provides the maximum bang for the buck.

Their priorities.

1) Cost
2) Performance
3) Tweakability

Our priorities.

1) Stability
2) Compatibility
3) Performance

Just something to keep in mind anytime your reading one of Ed's informative articles.

64 bit processors will have the greatest effect/advantage in our industry...not theirs.

Just walk up to any compositing/editing artist and ask them what they'd do for 32 gigs of addressable ram.

M.Rogne
08-29-2003, 03:42 PM
As true as it is said, Greg..

MadMax
08-29-2003, 05:39 PM
Add to that, Ed Stroglio is an avid AMD basher.

he posts almost a daily attack on anything AMD, and manages to turn big news like the Sandia Labs deal into something disasterous.

Ed has a level of objectivity and journalistic credibility on a par with Tom Pabst.

EDIT:

LOL!! I just read the questions. What a joke. He asks a question that is a yes or no type question, then the next 4 to five questions are predicated on you having answered negatively to the first one.

He spouts figures that are off the wall and likely bear no resemblance to actual pricing or configuration and then asks would you buy this as is, then the next 4-5 questions are all based on you having answered no.

GregHess
08-29-2003, 06:09 PM
I wouldn't say he was an AMD basher. In the past he's been very for AMD...I think he's just like most individuals, going with whatever he feels the flow is.

Whether thats right or wrong is really personal opinions.

He does tend to correct posts and editorials if you email him and rationally explain yourself. Something mr pablast (15 emails thus far) has never done.

I still find his site a useful counterpoint to some others...as always never form an opinion from a single site, but a wide variety of sources.

MadMax
08-29-2003, 07:32 PM
Perhaps.

I prefere sites that have something called objectivity.

Something Ed seems to know little about.

Just curious, when did he ever post anything pro AMD? In the last 2 years since I've noticed the site I have seen nothing but bashing.

Thalaxis
08-29-2003, 08:05 PM
I've not noticed much overly positive stuff on that site for AMD, but
so far it doesn't seem to be harsh enough about AMD to be what
I would call bashing.

That doesn't negate the value of objectivity, I just don't think that
he's quite as bad as you feel that he is, Max.

Not that I'm trying to change your opinion, just presenting mine.

This particular diatribe of his is definitely predicated on the nature
of his target audience. Most of us here would not consider it to be
a disadvantage for a system to not over overclocking features,
but to OC'ers' target audience it's very important.

One thing that I can't help but agree with him on is that the first
iteration of Hammers (both Opteron and Athlon64 variants) isn't
going to be particularly popular with gamers; the need for
registered memory is, IMO, a problem. It will reduce the appeal of
an Opteron system for the high-end gamer and the enthusiast.

Since the Athlon64 won't suffer from that problem, it will be much
more interesting for gamers and enthusiasts. Shuttle has already
not only announced but also demoed an SFF box, using from what
I understand the nForce3 chipset, for the Athlon64.

Now all AMD needs is an Athlon64 with a 128-bit memory bus, and
XP64 to be on shelves and in integrators' hands.

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