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electroganic
08-28-2003, 11:22 AM
This was done for Applegates' portrait sculpture class at Cogswell. The assignment was to blend ourselves with some kind of animal. So this is me crossed with an anglerfish.
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/fishportrait_front_cu.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/fishportrait_side.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/fishportrait.jpg

popeye
08-28-2003, 12:37 PM
This is awesome man!I am glad to see you posting this in this forum as well.I think your works need more publicity, and please make a cast of it instead give other people's fingers a chance!
Please post more you bastard!

electroganic
09-09-2003, 02:17 PM
The lonely samuria C&C

http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/oldmanfront.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/oldmanside.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/oldman_front_cu.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/oldman_3qrt_cu.jpg

ToFu
09-09-2003, 06:46 PM
awesome work! I really like the samurai one!

questin:
I would like to sculp a human or two for my demo reel but what kind of clay do you use or recommend?
I have experienced with oil clay and super sculpty, I really like the feels and of oil clay better than super sculpty but there are no way to preserve the detail since it never dries out.
:thumbsup:

Ryu
09-09-2003, 07:26 PM
Really cool, i love these,
what art school are you in?
Im quit interested also by what type of clay did you use...
Keep on making sculpture and posting them plz, such a pleasure !!
:wavey:

mora
09-09-2003, 07:30 PM
impressive,very impressive,I wish I could do this.I wish :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

edit : if I finally set up a movie studio some day,I'll hire you!:thumbsup:

neversong
09-09-2003, 07:33 PM
wow!

I love the style of the first one.

lips, and wrinkles are awesome! :thumbsup:

varzock
09-09-2003, 07:40 PM
Wow! Simply great :eek: I should try the same stuff some day too, I've always wanted to do it but never did :blush:

Got wires? ;)

Wonderer
09-09-2003, 08:43 PM
OUTSTANDING! AWESOME! WONDERFULL! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

TLy
09-09-2003, 09:24 PM
wow, really impressive. I wonder, how do you proceed from start to end ? Do you do a sketch in the first place ?
What kind of clay do you use? Where can you get it?
the tools ?
Do you have to bake it?

anyways congratulations again for your outstanding work.

Gemini82
09-09-2003, 09:56 PM
Hey, You can get regular ceramic clay at any local art store. Ceramic clay can be fired and your details will be perminate. The only problem is finding someone who has a kelm . Keep in mind when working with ceramic clay you'll have to pound out the air bubbles and make sure when you sculpt you don't leave any air pockets. This is only if you plan to fire the clay because the air will expand and explode the sculpture. Another alternative is just simply let the clay air dry it should be hard as a rock, you wouldn't be able to get it extremely wet though after drying.

SoggyOtter
09-10-2003, 10:12 AM
Im so happy you posted this. Both of your sculps are really commendable. I love the Samurai as well as the angler/you, just fantastic. Please keep posting your sculptures. Id like to see more of them on these forums. Id also love to see some more detail shots of these two...

electroganic
09-10-2003, 01:40 PM
Thanks everyone, I really apreciate the comments.

ToFu: These sculptures were made with Roma Plastalina #1, 1 being the softest 5 being the hardest. I use the softer clay because I prefer to sculpt more with my thumbs and fingers to quickly laying out the form, but I know people that like the harder stuff because because they like carving over pushing; it just depends on your sculpting style. I do like super sculpty cuz you can bake it then paint it, but your right it just doesnt feel as good. In short if its for your demo reel I would go with the clay that feels best to you (it seems like oil), and just make sure you get some good pictures of it before your cat tips it over.

Ryu: Cogswell in Sunnyvale CA.
I used Roma Plastalina #1

TLy: I usually start off with a few ruff sketches to get an idea of the gesture and shape, and I begin looking for reference photos for wrinkles,drapery, etc. When I have an idea that works I'll refine the sketch and maybe do a profile and anterior view to scale. I'll use the sketches for reference to build a styrofoam armature. Then I just cover the armature in Roma Plastilina, and sculpt. I start off mainly with my thumbs, pushing the clay were it needs to go. Then its just an addative and subtractive process, slowly building up the details, the same way I would approach a drawing or 3D model.
My favorite tool is the one on the far left, the wire end is good for cutting out fine detail and the other end works well for pushing clay in areas your fingers can't reach. The middle tool is good for larger quicker subtracting. The rubber brush on the right is good for beveling out details like wrinkles. I would like to try water base clay sometime because it seems like beveling things like wrinkles are much quicker because you just brush over your groove with water and a sof bristlebrush. The only draw back is that water base clay is more toxic(silica).
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/SculptingTools.jpg

Gemini82: I would love to try water base clay for sculpting (I have used it for wheel throwing pots), but the dust particles irritate my house mate.

Thanks again for the replies.

electroganic
09-10-2003, 01:44 PM
This is titled "Something On My Mind" it still needs some work but I thought I'd post it anyway. questions comments more than welcome.

http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/nakedthoughts_front.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/nakedthoughts_side2.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/nakedthoughts_side1.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/nakedthoughts_top.jpg

Wonderer
09-10-2003, 02:54 PM
Wow, you really make us having "something on our minds", like inspiration for example. It's excellent! You are a very sensitive person!:drool:

Jokke
09-10-2003, 03:25 PM
Wow! :eek: Amazing! How long time did you spend on each sculpture?

sablebrush
09-10-2003, 03:32 PM
:applause: :applause:

sculptures are excellent and very successful
I love they

great works

congratulation ! :applause:

ToFu
09-10-2003, 04:17 PM
Thank you for some tips electroganic!
The third sculpture clearly shows your excellent anatomic skill and I am sure your 3D modeling skill is just as good since 3D is only being the another types of medium.
Please feel free to inspire me some more!

jeroentje
09-10-2003, 05:50 PM
Oh man... these are so cool :)
Really inspires me to get some clay next weekend or so and start modelling for the first time in years....

phoenix
09-10-2003, 07:12 PM
man very very impressive

electroganic
09-11-2003, 11:20 AM
Thanks again for the replies, btw sorry for posting in the wrong forum.

Jokke: The sculptures took about 40-60 hrs each. It's easy to find the time when you don't have a job.

Here is a drawing of the original concept for the angler fish portrait.

http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/fishportrait_concept.jpg

Jokke
09-11-2003, 01:57 PM
That's a lot of time you've put into those sculptures. Nevertheless, I think it was worth the hours :thumbsup: Well.. I don't have time like that. I go to school every day, play drums 2-3 times a week and I also have a job after school two days a week. :surprised So I'm kind of busy...:hmm:

LittleFenris
09-11-2003, 03:15 PM
electroganic...
The clay you use, is it able to be fired in a kiln or is this something you can't fire? And if you can't fire it how do you make it permanent and hard to it won't melt or bend in the heat of summer?

VERY nice sculptures, well worth the time and effort put into them. :applause:

electroganic
09-11-2003, 11:23 PM
VWTornado: Unfortanely its an oil/sulfur based clay so you can't fire it unless your making a sculpture of The Blob. The heat during the summer isn't enough to melt it, but it will get it noticeably softer. I live in California, and have been working on my scultpures in the garage were it gets to 100 degrees fahrenheit on crapy days. The styrofoam armature keeps the sculpture pretty stable so it won't bend over. One way you can make the sculptures permanent is to make a mold of it and cast it in resin, then you could even paint it if you like. I personally find the mold making process to be tedious, and less creative so I usually don't do it. If your interested in mold making, "Smooth-On" is a good company to look into, they make every kind of mold making material you can think of, for all sorts of applications.

ElKrullo
09-12-2003, 12:02 AM
Super cool! I love the old man. All the detail... wrinkles and stuff. Awesome!

keight
09-12-2003, 02:15 AM
These pieces are beautiful.

A question: When working with super sculpy, what type of armature do you use? I have a rather sprawly "Lung" type dragon on hold for lack of proper support. Points to consider: it is about 9" high and it is to be baked and finally painted.

SIGIL
09-12-2003, 02:46 AM
One word................................. TALENT.

Other than that I am speechless.

Rey
09-12-2003, 05:51 AM
Nice work. Do you have any more sculptures you can post?
These would look very good in bronze.
:beer:

electroganic
09-12-2003, 11:58 AM
keight: I've only done a few sculpty sculptures and the armatures did not work very well. I used a coat hanger, which offered good support but was a pain to bend the right way, the sculpey also didn't stick to it very well then again I was using the cheap sculpey and not super sculpey. I've heard of people wrapping the wire with masking tape or thinner wire to give the sculpey something to grip, but I havn't tried it myself. Sorry I can't offer more help. Good luck on your sculpture.

Here is a sculpture I have been working on "Bill the Butcher". I've put it on hold for now cuz I'm doing the VFX Challenge with a friend. When I get back around to finishing him I think I'll have him stepping on a slaughtered pig. Any questions or comments are more than welcome.

Thanks again everyone.

http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/ButcherProgress
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/ButcherProgressCU

electroganic
09-12-2003, 12:18 PM
Here are the original concept drawings for the The Butcher. I'll post some figure sculptures from life when I get the chance to photograph them.

http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/ButcherSketchFront.jpghttp://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/ButcherSketchSide.jpg

keight
09-12-2003, 01:56 PM
Bill the Butcher looks charming. The 19th-20th century clothing is great. So is the cleaver behind his back!

I used a coat hanger, which offered good support but was a pain to bend the right way, the sculpey also didn't stick to it very well....I've heard of people wrapping the wire with masking tape or thinner wire to give the sculpey something to grip, but I havn't tried it myself.

Thank you! Actually the super sculpy doesn't stick to any wire very well at all. I'll definitely try the tape and let you know how well it works.

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Bill finished!

plunq
09-12-2003, 06:59 PM
Hey Electroganic,
I just wanted to praise you for your amazing work. Your lonely samurai is perfect! Great expression, great cloth and great execution on the wrinkles! I cannot wait to see your finished Bill the Butcher, so far it is looking like it will be even better (if possible) than the lonely samurai. I just wish I had the time to create sculptures like yours. Keep up the great work!

Draco-84
09-12-2003, 07:03 PM
Just incase you haven't gotten tired of hearing it...DAMN!
You have amazing skill in that media! Great work!
WOW! :thumbsup: :buttrock:

fizzgig
09-12-2003, 07:14 PM
wow! amazing work. love the angler fish piece

jerbille
09-19-2003, 12:07 AM
Nothing but a GREAT WORK !!!!! :buttrock:

E.Z. Schwartz
09-19-2003, 12:18 AM
I just wish I had the time to create sculptures like yours.

I think it takes more than a little spare time.

I hope you finish the Bill The Butcher sculpture. He's my favorite character! Post the progress when you get a chance to work on him some more.

BlueCougar
09-19-2003, 05:51 AM
Great work, its great to see your process. It may be the camera that's doing it but the head of Bill the Butcher looks a bit large for the body though I'm sure you measured out the head height of the form. I do miss the modeling clay process, you may have just inspired me to get back to playing with it eleven years after getting my BFA studio. Enjoy your time with it, try applying to Shidoni Foundry down in Sante Fe they are always looking for great talent. Awesome.

Kenn

tarrdaniel
09-19-2003, 08:40 AM
I didn't know anglerfish smoked or is it just you? :cool:
The sculptures are awsome :bowdown: You are extremely talented!

Can I buy the samurai statue? I am seriously asking.

ufo
10-20-2003, 10:58 AM
Great ! long time no see the tradiational things like these !
It gives me some idea to make in 3D ! thank you !!!
:wavey:

Vash T Stampede
10-20-2003, 01:20 PM
Gadzooks!

Awesome work there, I really like the samurai His eyes are perfect..

olijosman
10-20-2003, 08:43 PM
:eek: :drool: :applause: :bowdown: impressive works!!

krisippa
10-23-2003, 08:14 PM
why is this guy unemployed????
stuff's so good had to bump it to front
:D

mudgift
10-23-2003, 10:05 PM
like undreds of years seperating to type of arts being just flushed !!!!!wow your great artist !!! the professional type for me !!!
where you go ( meaning of style ) you wanna be more traditionnal and selling portraits and monuments or in the special effects /more movie and tv oriented ??? ???

your :drool: :applause: :eek: :buttrock:

keep in touch with this forum and send us your works !!!!

electroganic
10-23-2003, 11:44 PM
Thanks everyone for the recent posts.

silentseed: I've always felt that film was the way I wanted to go. Sculpture is more a means to an end, not the end. I have just recently gotten into 3D modeling (past 5 month) and I love it, this'll be my next medium for a while. You can check out a head model I did here if you like.

cg head (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95434)

mudgift
10-24-2003, 12:15 AM
5 month in 3d and you have this !!!
just 1 word ; :eek: :applause: :eek: :applause:

you rock my friend ...
the textures yours as well ???


brilliant !

Frinsklen
10-26-2003, 03:16 PM
I love the 2nd one, my favorite.
Inspirational stuff, you do have talent mate, just keep posting!

The cg head is amazingly clean too, great job.

wildsheepchase
10-26-2003, 04:06 PM
Really excellent stuff! They're so expressive. I love the pose and angle on the angler portrait. Do you have the armature for that sculpture anchored into the board it's sitting on?......it seems like the whole thing should fall over.
Have you ever considered working with porcelain? It's very plastic as far as fireable clays go, but doesn't feel as gritty, dry, or crumbly as earthenware or stoneware. It can also hold detail extremely well. It might be a decent alternative to the plasticine if you are ever interested in making your sculptures permanent.

phamtastic
10-26-2003, 06:39 PM
Oh man, you make me want to start sculpting again, but alas, I have neither as much skills or the patience.

Goatfuzz
10-26-2003, 07:28 PM
Whoah!...:eek:

Speechlessly awesome...

Goro
10-26-2003, 11:42 PM
This is too much!!!
You have great talent in modeling!!!

simply awesome!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

electroganic
10-27-2003, 12:35 AM
Thanks everyone

JetStrike asked about the foam armature so I thought I'd post what I wrote if anyone's interested.

Hi Jetstrike,

I'll try to elaborate a bit more on the styrofoam armature.

a)I normaly go to "Micheals" or some craft store to get large blocks of styrofoam, the kind that is crisp and porous (it would snap in half if you tried to bend it). Not the kind you would see packeged with your latest Mac G5 (I wish). That type won't work because the clay won't stick to it.

b)Next use your 1:1 scale isometric drawings to help you figure out how to cut the styrofoam up. This is the trickiest part. Sometimes I'll draw lines over my iso's dividing it by sections the same width as the styrofoam. Remember this part doesn't have to be perfect cuz your gonna cover it with clay eventualy. Its just there to add stabilty and save on cost.

c) Now assemble the pieces with hot glue. Try not to use a glue gun that gets too hot, otherwise it'll just burn the styrofoam and and get really stinky.

d) Now use a rasp to sculpt it into shape. A rasp is basicaly an industrial cheese grader with a handle on the end of it. You can find these at a hardware store like Home Depot. Be aware that these are used for wood so it will shave styrofoam like butter.

e) Last but not least just hot glue the final armature to a board. You can be pretty liberal with the glue and it should hold really well.
Now start adding the clay and your good to go. Also if you warm up the clay under a lamp it should go on a lot easier.

http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/ArmatureTutorial.jpg

Hope that helps if anything needs clarification just let me know.

ps: this only works well with plastalina, w/ waterbased clay the styrofoam will suck the water out of the clay and can start cracking from the inside out.

facial
10-27-2003, 01:31 AM
Excellent work !! Professional skill :D

Garma
10-27-2003, 08:38 PM
dude that's stunning, it looks like it's 3D or a photo! keep it up

Ryousuke
10-27-2003, 11:26 PM
wow...freaki

jody
10-28-2003, 02:42 AM
you're very professional!!!!!!!!!!!!
your work is really surprising!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

PangPangPang
11-01-2003, 01:15 AM
oh thats amazing!!!!:drool: :drool: :drool:

sula_nebouxi
11-02-2003, 12:09 AM
Great stuff! :D

Makes me wanna take up scultping myself :)

I especially love the elderly samurai. The detail in his face and robes are fantastic. Keep up the good work, I hope to see more of it :thumbsup:

metroeast
11-14-2003, 11:51 PM
Did you use the styrofoam armature with the man with a hatchet? Really lifelike stuff. You should be proud.:beer:

freshness
11-17-2003, 07:42 PM
Beautifull.. I'm speechless..really..:eek:
:eek: :eek:

Aego
11-17-2003, 09:22 PM
Very good stuff, i'm fan :drool:

electroganic
11-22-2003, 05:35 AM
Thanks everyone for the words of incouragement.

metroeast: yes a styrofoam armature was used for "The Butcher" It was not reinforced w/ wire so its a little unstable. Haven't done much with him lately but I'll post more when he's finished.

In the mean time, here's a sculpture I did from life, took about 6-7 hours. Much thanks goes out to Fati for being so patient.

http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/Fati1.jpg http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/Fati2.jpg
http://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/Fati3.jpghttp://www.entropygraphics.com/bryan_docs/Fati4.jpg

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