WIP toilet

[MoThBall]

Like hell im gonna pee in that... Freaky. :eek: Though.... Intresting

[JamesMK]

Whoa! H.R. Giger suddenly go hooked on toilet design! :D

I like it.

[bobtronic]

Not the place where I would do my buisness :)
But a crazy idea and nice modeled.

Bob

[PsychoSilence]

very nice attempt on H.R. Giger !

really like it ! would love to see it textured ! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[neilyb]

Ahhhh...hmmm....textures.....hmmm.....well maybe. My texturing has never been strong (can't get my head around UVW maps and such), but I want to for this piece....definately needs some scum and green stuff this piece....!:wavey:

[Cartesius]

Really scary place but if you gotta go you gotta go. :) About your question, check out Ed Hariss' book "How to get a job in computer animation" (http://www.edharriss.com/getajob/). Some of what the book covers (from the site):

• Making a great demo reel
• Creating reels for different countries
• Creating a targeted demo reel
• Where to send your reel
• Who to send it to
• Picking an animation school
• Choosing CG hardware and software
• How much you should get paid
• Job hunting at conventions and festivals
• Interviewing for animation jobs
• What job types are available
• Writing a résumé and cover letter
• What to do once you're hired
• How to protect your work
• How to avoid losing your job
• What to do if you lose your job
• Successful freelancing
• A listing of hundreds of schools
• A listing of thousands of animation and game companies

/Anders

[neilyb]

a small update. Playing with procedural textures and adding a few details. Need to change the teeth on those alien doofers. No time, no time....

Buying a book was not top of my list, I have plenty of 3D mags with tips and stuff in...but the addresses...!?

http://www.neilyb.de/urinal2.jpg

[AdamT]

Welcome back Neilyb! Great modeling, and hilarious!

[flingster]

hey good to see u posting again bud.
nice model...wierd theme...but very eye catching.

only suggestion would be at present very uniform...but not sure how to break it up really...sink, hand dryer, condom machine, poster or something...dunno really...wet floor sign! heh heh.

looking good though bud....and keep posting instead of disappearing...:thumbsup:

[unclebob]

cool image. I thought the seperators were urinals too... the image that flashed through my mind.. the alien head turns and opens its mouth, you get ready to do your business and the aliens inner mouth suddenly shoots out and *** screaming ... lots of high pitched screaming *** :surprised: :scream:


anyhoo, I like the image

[neilyb]

Have decided to make the separator things into something else, like a hand dryer "Stick hand in and press button.." yeh right! Not sure how as yet, will keep you all posted....

Great to be back, although it may be short lived..once back in the UK the old 40k connection will bug me once more!

Haven't played with v8 yet and I want to! Really, really want to...but the college has decided to use Maya this year....D'OH!

Anywho nice to be back and HI to all!

[ndat]

Nice :p, at least your not pissing into its mouth lol...

[neilyb]

Basic condom machine in place, working on the hand dryer. http://www.neilyb.de/cmach.jpg

[AdamT]

Hahahaha!

[kiwi]

Neil welcome back bud :thumbsup:


Ah good one :)



Cool pic.


jmo but the skull type face needs quite a bit of shaping work,try closing its eyes a bit.Maybe model a skull and then tweak it.



Throw some moss and heavy grime around the place.Put the moss around the appliances edges and the dark grime like its kind of seeping down the walls,maybe some pools of water as well.



Stu.

[neilyb]

Hey Stu, great to know your still around!

Like I said, I am trying to use some old models, give them a home! Maybe I'll get to the texturing stage or maybe I'll just make the pic look dirty in Photoshop, add noise and chaos. It's really is just to show the models in a better light than just grey on a grey floor! (saying that I wanted to show off the heads but ended up modelling a Condom machine and other bits!) But I shall look into closing the eyes a bit! (I like that).

Heres the sort of thing I mean....
http://www.neilyb.de/redtoilet.jpg

[flyingP]

Hah hah damn cool!!,
the real scary thing though is that I have been in real toilets worse than this. How's about a few bugs crawling around, oh and graffiti a bog is not a bog without graffiti.

cheers

[neilyb]

The idea came from a visit to Stockholm. I was desparate, I had to pay 50cents for one of those new fangled toilets.....unfortunately 50cents does not buy you toilet paper, cleanliness, running water or a paper towel!

Yeh Grafiti....and a few bugs coming soon!

[neilyb]

Playing with Proximal (how cool is it!) as I don't have time nor a tablet to do textures with (machine is also too slow and no memory!). Having fun though (having not opened Cinema for 4 months!)
http://www.neilyb.de/tnew.jpg

[flingster]

nice to see you're always open to suggestions...wasn't sure you'd take it literally...but very cool results...but you gotta work on those condoms...heh heh.

i would give it a few urinals...say 3 in a row...then the roll thing and then the condom machine to its side...slightly higher up...maybe mess with the scale of all the different units a little.

i really really like that red render you did...its got loadsa potential that one.
excellent work bud...from like you say just a quick thought...to a very cool piece.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[neilyb]

Sometimes I just get carried away! I was looking at the scale of the condom machine and trying to get more urinals in, or maybe a cubicle at the end. The paper machine I might make into a blower, more potential in that for some winding pipes and stuff!But its getting everthing in the picture!

I like the red render, well there are a few colours I like, but the noise effect adds a dirtyness I like! The other thing is the picts I have here lack a bit of detail, the 300 dpi renders (2048x1536)are much better and you can make out the detail (such as scabs on the condoms..).

[kiwi]

Scabs on the condoms?.......buuuud :D way gross....add some nice holes as well you can see {to the condoms}



Maybe some fire from the blower would be cool,with a little pile of ash on the floor in front of it :)



Are you still at the same addie bud?



Stu.

[ODoul]

That's really wicked. Stylistically, I don't have anything to add. I think it's cool. Perhaps the lighting could be better. More fill maybe. It does give it a dark feel though. Still, it shows tons of style. -- 3d_e

[flyingP]

Originally posted by kiwi

Maybe some fire from the blower would be cool,with a little pile of ash on the floor in front of it :)


Now 'that' is a cool idea, heh heh.

[neilyb]

Fire....cool idea Stu! you are nearly a sick as me I would say!
still at the same addie as always!
Condoms are a bit difficult to show holes and stuff clearly as they are a small part, camera angle is going to be difficult and lighting....well I ain't got a clue!

Anyone know how to make fire? (fire that looks like fire, with v7.3!) Is v8 any good?

[9nine]

impressive

wie versifft kann ein klo sein?!:thumbsup:

[flyingP]

Originally posted by neilyb

Condoms are a bit difficult to show holes and stuff clearly as they are a small part

Depends on how big the holes are.

[neilyb]

S'pose it depends on how big the cdoms are too!

Heres a quick update, the sinks are just filling in till I make something better.

http://www.neilyb.de/urinalII.jpg

[flyingP]

Originally posted by neilyb
S'pose it depends on how big the cdoms are too!


Haaahahhhahaha!!! and who's using them.

This keeps getting better, or worse if you're the poor sod who really needs a toilet in a hurry.

[neilyb]

Getting there, getting there. I have squashed things up a bit and added a dead thing. Not sure its perfect for the part but I needed something in the floor space and fancied a decapitated something. I may add some blood to the dryers mouth...

How about "In the toilet no one can hear you strain?"

http://www.neilyb.de/geturinal.jpg
http://www.neilyb.de/headonly.jpg

[kiwi]

Hhahahahaa thats gross :)


The condoms have to much luminance or to much light on them.


The decapitated thingy would look better really burnt jmo,



Try the floor as a rusting hulk with holes through to the next level as opposed to tiles :)



maybe some cobwebs :thumbsup:



Fire I would use Pyro cluster and take one the fire examples and tweak it,or you could try sprites maybe.



Looking mighty gruesome :scream:

[flingster]

how about one of those caution wet floor signs!!! heh heh.

[neilyb]

Oh how I wish I had version 8 with Pyrocluster! :hmm: I have played around with fire (?) in Cinema, usign the materials...but they suck! I may just add an orange light in the mouth and try for some smoke (more of an indication than making it obvious!)

Yeh burnt would be nice but it took me hours to get the texture that far! (me being a brilliant texturer!) wish I could texture, ever manage the colors and stuff I really want.....maybe I should have my eyes checked!

Cdoms have too much luminance!

Cheers

N

[neilyb]

Ooops, nearly forgot...http://www.neilyb.de/bloodyurine.jpg

[wesware]

Wow, that is disturbing! :eek: :applause:

This image could really pop with some better lighting.
Right now it seems as if there is just an omni light back behind the camera somewhere with falloff. I would consider setting up a simulation of real bathroom lighting. Along with some HDRI reflections. I would stay away from Radiosity (personally) since the render times would most likely sky-rocket. You must animate a camera pass by of this scene :buttrock:
With a flickering sick green flourescent light somewhere off camera and a sliding-scraping sound along with some muffled groans and the occasional violin strike.

Great image! The condoms make me wretch.

[neilyb]

Ah yes, I do need that new plugin (not yet written) where as you click the button and the light magically appear in perfect harmony with the scene and it ambience! Lighting is for me liek texturing...try al sorts but never get there, quite...but I keep trying! I would love to do an anim for inclusion on my application CD (when I send off for Work Experience!).
http://www.neilyb.de/hellsurine.jpg

PS - HDRI in v7.3? Also the render times are going up with every modification I make...and I am running on girlfriends PC with lack of RAM, Graphics card, tablet....

[kiwi]

Ya now we are getting there :thumbsup:


Fire try a volumetric {if you cant use volumetric use a spot with light radiating checked as off} and use say a light orange,crank it up to about 150 and use some turbulence,try that bud.



Condoms still a bit luminant.



Blood darker still.



Animals skin darker yet also bud,make it look corpse like :)



Hey if you want to get the image really humming for using for skill give me a yell at my addie Neil and we can work it for ya,might speed it up a bit,I just mean feed back :thumbsup:


Stu.

[flingster]

more light...i wanna see the suffering...:p

[neilyb]

Okay, fire from the dryer, hands from below and some new lighting...
http://www.neilyb.de/urinalhands.jpg

[Monty]

My god. This is the worst toilet Ive ever seen in my life!!

Its even worse than toilets in Holland where they have flies drawn inside the urinals and you try and hit them with your pee!!

:eek:

[flingster]

this is cool...
how about changing the position of the dryer and condom machine all to far wall next to sink....then a full row of urinals on the left wall...easier for viewer to determine toilet status...rather than alien hell hole...could also have a row of urinals with a junior one at the end of the line! heh heh. anyway imho as always...
looking good though...little more light on condom machine also.
:thumbsup:

[JamesMK]

Bah, that looks like just about any public lavvie in Stockholm, big deal... :D

No, it looks really great now! Just make sure it doesn't become too crowded - the readability is dropping slightly.

[neilyb]

Stockholm was my inspiration.....although my toilet has condoms, the dryer at least is hot and there is water in the taps....and the floor is a bit cleaner...:thumbsup:
Still not sure about the fire from the dryer....

Thanks again for the replies!

[JoelOtron]

I think I can hold it in till I get home. :)

Anyway--awesome and disturbing work. I prefer the image previous to this last one. I like the foggy darkness of the other one that is broken by the orange lighting and mirror reflection. The mirror in the newest one is a litle harder to read since it is the same value as the surrounding wall--theres more contrast in the previous image.

Compositionally I like the previous one as well--the new one is too uniform in lighting and color. I like the fog/mist in the earlier one. The new one draws too much attention to how thin the tiled floor is--which makes it feel a little less real to me. if you wanna be picky, there should be at least some subflooring beneath the tiles.

Anyway--despite the nitpicking--awesome work!

[kiwi]

Nice work bud :)



I agree with James mk,its now a bit busy and the warm colored lighting is making it look well kind of nice,try a turqouise type muddy green,more grey green then anything for your lighting,or a a bit of red might also look good.



The lighting is also a bit even where as for this kind of scene you want things almost hidden from the lights so they sink back more and give it more of that horror type of feel as they hide in the shadows.



Stu.

[neilyb]

Okay, here is a new layout, of which I am not completely happy. I am playing with blue lights in the foreground now, gives a more artificial flourescent feel!

http://www.neilyb.de/urinalnew.jpg

[kiwi]

Ya a bit dark now :)



How about putting the head in one of the urinals.



I think the tiles might be a bit reflective as well maybe.



Stu.

[neilyb]

The head was introduced just to break up the monotony of the floor, now I have the hole.....hmm...no I like it on the floor...maybe I don't need it anymore. Heres a quick update, more light, I wasn't happy with the far corner...!

Tiles reflective, they are a little, very little!

http://www.neilyb.de/urinalnear.jpg

his will have to be about it...need to learn Maya....D'OH!

[flingster]

heh heh. like the three urinals and condom machine side..its now more clear what the hell it actually is to the viewer.
but the blower are obscured slightly...not sure what you do about it...cos the sinks look fine.
:thumbsup:

btw i like the hands through the floor...cos they are subtle...and you only notice is you look carefully the way it should be...little detailing like that can make a scene.

[neilyb]

Update...

http://www.neilyb.de/urinalchange.jpg

[neilyb]

and again....think this one is about finsihed....I hope....till I find something else to change....

http://www.neilyb.de/urinalclosed.jpg

Thanks for all the help and comments, I really think the image has progressed!:applause:

[flingster]

top image bud...always nice to see how things progressed.

it still looks very dark to me...but i think thats the whole mac pc thing more than anything in particular...copied pasted into photoshop and looks great when i played around a bit....good work as always.
:beer:

[neilyb]

I wanted to keep things a bit dark, especially the corners.

Glad you like it though, maybe I should stick it in the Finished gallery?

[kiwi]

Thats better :thumbsup:


One more thing - The textures on the urinals are identical.

[neilyb]

The foremost and the second are different, but the third is the same as the second, AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW....guess I'll have to open the scene again!:annoyed:

[Monty]

Hey neilyb, why dont you post this in the Gallery finished work forum?

[neilyb]

I did! My toilet... (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87174)

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