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LightSovereign
01-18-2010, 07:56 AM
Marley Mcleay is entered in the "B-Movie" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/b-movie/view_entries.php?challenger=18843)

Latest Update: Final Image: 20,000 leagues above the sea
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1268629416_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=6412194#post6412194)

Cyberone
01-18-2010, 09:59 AM
Good luck!! :)

MartinNielsen
01-18-2010, 12:51 PM
Good luck :)

LightSovereign
01-18-2010, 06:59 PM
Hey that was nice of you 2 to pop in, thank you both very much. and yes i think i'm gonna need all the luck to get this one going, hopefully i can get something up and running.

LightSovereign
01-19-2010, 06:07 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1263884863_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1263884863_medium.jpg)

Not too exciting at the moment, i'm flushing out anything that comes to mind..I even drew an aggressive sandwhich, but i wasn't sure about posting that one.

edit: seeing other concepts going the same way, i'll have to keep searching i think

csmallfield
01-19-2010, 01:04 PM
awesome start man! That was fast to have something so nice so quickly!

LightSovereign
01-19-2010, 11:54 PM
You know, thank you very much! i'm one of those who are slightly self conscious at revealing their early concepts, so thank you for saying so!.

Take care and look forward to seeing your art

Marley

LightSovereign
01-21-2010, 08:19 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1264065586_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1264065586_medium.jpg)

Yea interesting one this..a big colourful thing with rather underdeveloped claws :P..

just wanting some big otherwordly creature to outsize some sea faring vessels

Take care everyone

Marley

JoergPatrias
01-21-2010, 09:24 AM
Holly! You really know how to make some rough but very clear and moody concept sketches. looks very creepy.

LadyMedusa
01-21-2010, 09:36 AM
That is beautiful! If you don't go by you're last idea I hope that you'll at least finish it anyway :)

paulius-st
01-21-2010, 09:38 AM
cool concepts. i like the mood. good luck :)

LightSovereign
01-21-2010, 05:56 PM
Thats so cool you 3. I appreciate it..I am thinking of going with the second idea. I enjoyed this muchly. Only thing is i have to repaint it as i only used 2k *2k pixels..Its ok though i can plan certain things a little better next time round....one hopes :)

Marley

Vampyrangel
01-21-2010, 06:19 PM
I liked that color but isnīt it to modern and highres idea? I thinking about b-movie budget? :)

Greetings
BJ

LightSovereign
01-21-2010, 06:28 PM
Yes i was very concerned at this, but seeing the inspiration section where there were some concepts of movies released last year. i figured hey if district 9 can be accomplished for a cool 30 million.....Then budget isn't an issue :D haha...Of course i made that up..But you are right..

Marley

Adam-Bomb
01-21-2010, 07:03 PM
That's fantastic and really cool looking. I would remove the sub on the right side of the frame and just have the main battleship be the center of focus. If you want another ship in the scene I would have it run parallel to the big battleship. Other than that you are off to a great start. Tough call on the whole B movie budget question. I think you can pull if off with this composition, you just need to have really retro textures and lighting.

Yrindale
01-21-2010, 07:59 PM
Killer idea, Marley! I like your composition and big sense of scale here. I'm with the others - a retro feel may give it the scope you're looking for on making it all fit that B feeling.

Looking forward to seeing this one progress!

jocz
01-21-2010, 09:18 PM
nice colors and scale,
If you want to give it a cheaper look, you can try just using old drawing techniques etc, not necessarily make the thing itself cheaper in his design. It could just be a drawing to sell the movie, and not a movie shot.

LightSovereign
01-22-2010, 03:08 AM
aww so cool thanks to the 3 of you..I've actually gone on to repaint the image from scratch. its looking good, I haven't painted in teh vessels but the effect i am going to try and shoot for is the water tank look..seen in such movies as titanic, tora tora tora..etc..HOPEFULLY it works.

Thanks so much again to you..

Best

Marley

LightSovereign
01-22-2010, 03:47 AM
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Yea a repaint as the concept i worked on was only 2000px in height and width..trying to get the water to look like it was shot in a water tank..will work on this aspect more tonight

Yongkiat
01-22-2010, 03:51 AM
I like this concept very much. the lighting even at this stage is really well done. Especially the almost rainbow like flare...

LightSovereign
01-22-2010, 07:10 AM
Thank you very much, Yongkiat, appreciated:wavey:

LightSovereign
01-22-2010, 09:12 AM
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a little to peaceful *slaps forehead*..found that an additional claw made the image too busy..may play around with the boats angle, make it more like the original...and once this is finished i think i better go back to the drawing board and get an image more akin to a b movie...

LightSovereign
01-22-2010, 08:48 PM
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Better

KIDI
01-22-2010, 09:31 PM
good luck !

LightSovereign
01-23-2010, 12:13 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1264209186_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1264209186_medium.jpg)

water tank aesthetic starting to flare up :P..

Thank you KIDI

NufZ67
01-23-2010, 01:02 AM
Marley,

Awesome colours and lighting as usual.

I reckon classic "B" grade movie stuff just means crap plot (read ridiculous) and cheap or simple props...its got nothing to do with being something from the 50s or 60s - proof of that: look in the local video store...surely you would call something like Universal Soldier II a "b" grade movie?

Best of luck!

Gilfindel
01-23-2010, 01:27 AM
That's an amazing critter you've created there, and I can hardly wait to see it come together. I'm not sure it says "B movie" to me though; usually I think of stunt men in rubber suits...

SantoAnderson
01-23-2010, 01:59 AM
Bravo, I'm loving the colors.

Pegahoul
01-23-2010, 04:21 AM
great composition ^^
I still think that the monster's too futuristic and creative though... like something that belong in The Abyss... but it is up to you

Yongkiat
01-23-2010, 04:33 AM
Nice...the added war ships really set the scale of this monster!

LightSovereign
01-23-2010, 09:27 AM
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Right so not entirely sure this is worth posting, but there are subtle adjustments and basic brush clean up for this.

nothing drastic

LightSovereign
01-23-2010, 09:43 AM
Hi everyone, i'll keep me answers brief as i am really tired and my bed calls

NufZ67
Hey paul, glad you came to visit..yes i think thats a nice way to describe b movies to be honest..B as in short for bad :P..Id completely forgotten about Uni Soldier in the first place..that was bad..

Thank you for the feedback

SantoAnderson

:D cheers mate, thank you very much, made my day.

Pegahoul

Absolutely agreed on that point..I did want to finish this piece in the end since the concept sketch i did of it..so once this is out of the way, we shall see ;)..Cheers for the honest feedback as usual

Yongkiat

Yea those battle ships were very enjoyable though hard to get aligned. so had to imagine a Vanishing Point for em. I used Distort tool to change the sketches about..you might see the ships slightly angular lean.

Thank you all kindly

Marley

LightSovereign
01-23-2010, 07:24 PM
That's an amazing critter you've created there, and I can hardly wait to see it come together. I'm not sure it says "B movie" to me though; usually I think of stunt men in rubber suits...

wow your comment only came thru this morning, a real time delay that one haha..but thank you yes agreed with you..I'll finish this and move on, since there are still 50 days, it should be good

Marat-Ars
01-23-2010, 11:31 PM
light really dazzled my eyes in this picture. Very impressed :thumbsup:

Korendo
01-24-2010, 03:26 AM
Glorious work, love the light and feel of the water. Humble suggestion, to enhance the B-movie feel , maybe have the ships fight a giant horseshoe crab monster with expanded cranial area and huge glowing bug eyes powered by small flashlights, and maybe blue-crab claws (we couldn't afford lobster). So you could have more of a B-movie feel (the crab with the putty brain) while making some cool lighting effects with the eyes...anyway best of luck and I agree what you have is a keeper.

All the best...

mdavid
01-24-2010, 04:34 AM
Hey Marley,

you're off to a brilliant start and have already produced a poster image for a B-Movie I'd want to see. I love the way you're creating the look of a water tank and model ships - that fits the genre perfectly. Maybe if some of those lights looked more like cheap light globes, or the hint of some strings holding the creature together or something. It's a tough call because to do something like that somehow seems at odds with your beautiful style of illustration. So I leave it in your capable hands. But I love how it's already looking

LightSovereign
01-24-2010, 08:53 AM
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again looks like minimal progress, but i actually experimented with blocking out most of the picture and putting in a sky. and various other tidbits, that can't be seen here i might add..I think in the end the changes are mostly to the water

LightSovereign
01-24-2010, 09:09 AM
Marat-Ars
:bounce:hey cool mate, i appreciate that, thank you..now if only i can tone down the use of the word appreciate, i say that a lot :blush:

Korendo
Wow, thanks for the informative suggestion..Yea there will be a time that i will sit down and do more paint over work and try and make this more cheesy, see if i can get it to work..

many thanks 2 you, pal

mdavid

You got the effect i was after, and comes with relief i tell you. haha..the crux of it all , mark is i should not be in this position in the first place. The scribble i did was about the manipulation of water from a cool creature, that was something i settled on after i saw 2 other pieces of creatures of unusual size and strenght trambling through a city while scared denizens flocked toward the screen..as could be seen in my first concept sketch..so in essence i'm happy but i should have looked further ahead than what i did.. Thank you for the thoughtfull response

Hey you 3 thanks so much.

Marley

AJ
01-24-2010, 10:26 AM
Wow... Fantastic work. I don't have any crits or comments on your concept, just keep working it up.

One thing I would say is that your name 'Mollusk the Glucken' reminds me of a character from the Oddworld series - http://oddworldlibrary.net/toe/Molluck - but that's not really important!

Keep going, you're 'leagues' (oh!) ahead :D

LightSovereign
01-25-2010, 01:01 AM
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worked on water and some sky. :)

LightSovereign
01-25-2010, 01:15 AM
Wow... Fantastic work. I don't have any crits or comments on your concept, just keep working it up.

One thing I would say is that your name 'Mollusk the Glucken' reminds me of a character from the Oddworld series - http://oddworldlibrary.net/toe/Molluck - but that's not really important!

Keep going, you're 'leagues' (oh!) ahead :D

hah thanks for the pun :D i enjoyed that.

Yea molluck was indeed the inspiration for the tittle..the original remains one of my gaming highlights of my teenage years..of course it plays on the actual word of mollusk (octopus and muscles etc)

Thanks mate

LightSovereign
01-25-2010, 05:01 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1264399307_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1264399307_medium.jpg)

nearly done on this i think. i'm quite concious of over engineering the piece, so i'll take a break for a while and see what needs to be done

Bran
01-25-2010, 06:18 AM
*returns from weekend*

wow, awesome work, lightsovereign. the colors, the mystical atmosphere, the immense scale of that... thing and last but not least the water are great - can't wait to see your next step!

bran

Cyberone
01-25-2010, 08:49 AM
like something that belong in The Abyss... but it is up to you

I was thinking of that movie when I saw this....love it!!!

I think its B-grade enough while still being A-grade! :)

LightSovereign
01-25-2010, 07:34 PM
Thank you both for the awesome feedback, actually really isn't too much work left at all. prolly the odd brush here and there, but thats it..maybe a doodad or 2.

Cheers very much

Marley

LightSovereign
01-26-2010, 01:40 AM
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HAH there really wasn't too much to do from the last image. so i apoligise to anyone anticipating more posts :P..In anycase, this particular image is done.

The only thought i had whilst scribbling the concept was "water tank effect". Thats what i was after..

Inspiration are movies such as Titanic, the Abyss, Tora Tora Tora..and even thunderbirds..especially loved Derrick Meddings and his effects he created..

So entitled 20,000 leagues above the sea. :D.

Marley

Dann-O
01-26-2010, 01:44 AM
Wow i thought i was working fast. Great illustrative pic. It looks great with the boaats to the left but looks odd with the boats to the right go figure.

mdavid
01-26-2010, 02:48 AM
I love it! The touch of front-blur gives it a nice cinematic look. I think Cyberone said it well in stating that you had managed sufficient B-grade while being A-grade. Congratulations on getting so much done so quickly

MartinNielsen
01-26-2010, 12:27 PM
That was quick... But you did a good job, I think. Congrats :)

LightSovereign
01-26-2010, 07:32 PM
Thats awesome you three, thank you very much. Appreciated

thejeff
01-27-2010, 07:45 PM
Cr*p, you again do something I can't even conceive of doing. I love the subtle depth of field clues. Looks great!

Jeff

LightSovereign
01-28-2010, 02:43 AM
Thanks jeff, my friend. in actuality i get the same vibe from your art, as in i wish i could think of compositions the way you do with your character art.

Really appreciated, thank you :)

Marley

davinci247
01-30-2010, 09:32 PM
amazing concept and colors ...great work

LightSovereign
02-01-2010, 11:33 PM
Thank you very much :D.

madbot
02-02-2010, 06:55 AM
I think your image rocks! The water in the foreground really does have that (made in a tank of water feel). I noticed some people mentioned that it doesn't quite say B-Movie to them. If that still concerns you, you may consider a full B-Movie poster effect with your image as part of the overall poster. You could have your title in a really corny font and have it all looking like it's been printed on white paper that's since discoloured & weathered.

Regardless of what you decide I think you've done a brilliant job.

Russell-Nash
02-02-2010, 09:57 PM
Wow, that was fast. :cool:

Really impressive final picture. I like that tiny helicopter in the back. Gives a great sense of scale. :thumbsup:

Torsten

aiman3d
02-03-2010, 03:26 PM
Love it, I dont know what it is, but I love it. You're compositions for both of these have been spot on.

LightSovereign
02-03-2010, 07:32 PM
madbot

Hey man thank you so much for the positive feedback. The dust has settled on this image for sure, so i am comfy with the result..Thank you for the suggestion btw. an interesting way of dealing to the image..

I'll look round for cheesey fonts hahaha

Many thanks

Russel-Nash

ace mate, thank you too. your image has a unique and wonderful feeling to it already. I was quite impressed, cant wait for you to detail it.

Thank you

aimanimation

haha yea it has a tendancy to confuzzle people as to what they are staring at. i guess it shouldn't really be like that, but thank you so much for the compliment.

Take care all of you and best of luck

Marley

Korendo
02-17-2010, 01:54 AM
Wow! Job well done! A very cool image.

LightSovereign
02-17-2010, 10:12 AM
Ace, Korendo, thank you so much for stopping by. Really appreciated.

Marley

walrus
02-17-2010, 01:17 PM
Wow, you're already done, Marley? I'm envious! Great image, and nice work! :thumbsup:

LightSovereign
02-18-2010, 07:46 AM
eeh, its michael. very nice of you to drop by.
yea i had lots of time on my hands for the competition. it was great to be able to produce a piece of art..always is.

thanks so much, Michael.

Marley

Ferx
02-20-2010, 10:51 PM
Hey Marley,

Great image!! Love the color and lighting mood on it, awesome. The clouds put a fantastic touch on the background, and a great detail are the waves in the foreground out of focus, your image gains a lot of depth, with that.

Congratulations for this great image and all the best .... now, time for a really well deserved cold beer :D
Cheers!! :beer:

Spyone
02-27-2010, 08:11 PM
Bonjour Marley,

Great image ! I agree with the other posts, the mood and colours are amazing, very oneiric. I just love the coloured pencil feel that it has. :thumbsup:

LightSovereign
03-01-2010, 07:08 AM
thank you both so much, its great to have the both of you visit!!.

cheers for the vote of confidence

Marley

na
03-07-2010, 10:13 AM
Great image Marley, bordering on A more than B, love it!

BaronImpossible
03-07-2010, 01:48 PM
I think this is the best I've seen of yours, Marley. And echoing what was said I think the only problem is it's more of an A-movie scene than a B-movie! Good luck

LightSovereign
03-07-2010, 07:42 PM
Hey you 2, thank you both so very much.

Bill, yea i agree with you it was pointed out it was more James Cameron than errr that B movie director im trying to think of. hahaha. cheers my friend

Simon, Thanks so much for the lovely compliment, Its not an accurate depiction for B movie, agreed but the whole process was a joy to paint, which was something i had been grappling with for nearly a year now.

Great to see you both in the competition.

Many Thanks

Marley

LightSovereign
03-15-2010, 05:03 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1268629416_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/26/18843/18843_1268629416_medium.jpg)

Software: Photoshop

This image was inspired by the many movies and television programs that required the use of "Water Tanks" and "Miniature Models" to create their visual effects..

Movies such as The Abyss, Tora Tora Tora and 20,000 leagues 'UNDER' the sea..

Derek Medding's effects for "Thunderbirds" and "Krull" were a thrill to watch growing up.

Thank you

LightSovereign
03-15-2010, 05:35 AM
I see whats happened, sorry for the necro post, this is my first challenge using the challenge up loader :P

BaronImpossible
03-17-2010, 12:10 PM
Yep, I think that's excellent. You've got the most difficult part, the lighting, bang on and as a result the piece has a solid, engrossing focus. You've also managed to get a good sense of depth with the foreground wave. A flat sea would have been boring whilst the deck of a ship up that close would have been distracting, so that works great. The lighting of the sky complements the light from the alien craft well too.

A couple of things, though, just for completeness :) The helicopter on the left looks too dark. Lightening up on that value slightly would push it into the distance. The perspective on the nearest ship is too extreme. I think the distant ship could be made smaller and both could be brought more towards the horizontal whilst altering the nearest ship to show less of the deck.

Nice job!

handlebar
03-17-2010, 02:52 PM
Realy great job. the lighting and flow of the image if fantastic. Good luck.

Bran
03-19-2010, 11:05 AM
hey lightsovereign,

your work, that, as far as i remember, was the first being done, is unique and very captivating in its motive. :thumbsup:
i especially like the depth-of-field-effect that the water in the lower right corner has. and the lighting is impressive where it hits the water or the almost nacre-like surface of the "thing".

best wishes for you and your entry,

greetings from out a cold swamp and thanks for your support,
bran

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