Annoying Horizontal Lines in DV Capture

[gmask]

It's called interlacing and it is standard with pretty much any video format. However with DV cameras you foten have the option to shoot in progressive mode so that only on frame is capturd as opposed to two fields. Anyway that won't help you with your current problem.

There are som edeinterlacing filters that try to take the best of the two fields and make them into one frame. Otherwise you can simple field render all your effects and get smooth crisp motion in the final product.

What compositor are you using?

[Cinematography]

"What compositor are you using?"
Thank you very much for the advice.
I'm using Combusion 2.1

Two Additional Questions:
* Can Combustion take care of my problem?
* Can you import DV into Combustion?
[I've tried, but it asks for a codec]

[gmask]

I don't know much about combustion but I am certain that it can field render. I can't offer any advice about the codec issue.

[Cinematography]

Originally posted by gmask
I don't know much about combustion but I am certain that it can field render. I can't offer any advice about the codec issue.
Thank you very much gmask.
:beer:

[gmask]

Originally posted by Cinematography
Thank you very much gmask.
:beer:

You're welcome, what are using to capture from DV?

[Cinematography]

Now that I know what the problem is called [interlacing], I found a solution.

Steps:
* import DV video into Premiere
* edit video
* go to 'video options' / 'field options' for video
* click 'Always Deinterlace'
* export video as TIF sequence
* done

Of course, I wouldn’t need to go through all of these steps if I had a DV codec. If I find one, I'll post the link in this thread. Or... if anyone else finds one.... hook me up, yo!
:thumbsup:

[markdc]

Combustion (for some reason) doesn't support DV. The MSDV Codec is part of DirectX (direct show or direct media). I believe this is what premiere uses. So, combustion only seems to support vfw codecs...:thumbsdow I've only tried the demo, so I don't know about the release version. After Effects has full support for DV.

[Cinematography]

”After Effects has full support for DV.
Dang it! And I just moved away from After Effects to. Oh well. Thank you for the information.

[fbrandst]

You can use Quicktime! Combustion supports quicktime format and it also offers deinterlace filters, as well as field rendering options. So when you capture for example with Avid Xpress you can export a quicktime reference file (very small file) and work with it in Combustion. Easy and fast way!

greetings
frank

[Punkpotato]

I use DV footage in combustion a lot. Im using a matrox rtx100 video capture card to get the dv from my sony dvcam to computer. The matrox software installed the matrox dv codec and I can load up dv footage in anything.
So combustion does support DV. All I can say is it works on my computer. I think there are many different DV codecs too. Im using matrox video hardware so the matrox dv codec works with this. Not sure about other dv codecs. I think you can download the matrox dv codec free.

Punk Potato
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[Flywaver]

C2 doesn't like AVI Type 1...same for Pinnacle Edition. You can get the MainConcept DV CODEC and re-encode your DV footage with it and then open them in any editing/comp apps. :)

It's 20$ and they offer a demo...check it out:
http://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml

Cheers!

[dmeyer]

Combustion does in fact support DV, but as you've no doubt gotten from the replies above, it's picky about codecs and formats. Quicktime seems to be relatively trouble free, but with AVI's you'll have to experiment until you find the right combo.

Frame sequences are still you're most hassle-free bet though.

[Cinematography]

fbrandst
”You can use Quicktime!
Aren’t QuickTime files kind of big though? I’m working with a 720x480 screen size. Is there any way to get good quality without slurping away the drive space using a QT file?

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Punkpotato
”The matrox software installed the matrox dv codec and I can load up dv footage in anything.”
So if I find a DV codec, Combustion will be able to load DV files?

”I think there are many different DV codecs too.”
Ugg…

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Flywaver
” It's 20$ and they offer a demo...check it out:
http://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml”
Oh yes! Thank you very much!

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dmeyer
” Frame sequences are still you're most hassle-free bet though.”
Is there a program that can video capture into frame sequences?

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Thank you everyone for the replies!
:beer:

[gmask]

>>>Aren’t QuickTime files kind of big though? I’m working with a 720x480 screen size. Is there any way to get good quality without slurping away the drive space using a QT file?

Just like an AVI .. quicktimes have a wide range of codecs to use that vary in compression and quality. Although depending on the software you use to interact with your DV card the option to capture to QT may be limited

[dmeyer]

Originally posted by gmask
>>>Aren’t QuickTime files kind of big though? I’m working with a 720x480 screen size. Is there any way to get good quality without slurping away the drive space using a QT file?

Just like an AVI .. quicktimes have a wide range of codecs to use that vary in compression and quality. Although depending on the software you use to interact with your DV card the option to capture to QT may be limited

The file size depends on codec, not the media architecture. For instance a video encoded with Cinepak inside of an AVI and inside of an MOV (with identical compression settings) will be the same size.

Quicktime also has the advantage of being more reliably cross platform and support alpha channels in some codecs (AVI doesnt to my knowledge).

[Cinematography]

Which QuickTime codec offers perfect, or darn near perfect, quality? Or should I not use a codec and leave my QT files uncompressed?

[dmeyer]

Originally posted by Cinematography
Which QuickTime codec offers perfect, or darn near perfect, quality? Or should I not use a codec and leave my QT files uncompressed?

It really depends on the sort of footage, which compression is best....for distribution at least. For source footage it's best to keep it as clean as possible.

QT Pro will have some export options such as TGA, TIFF, PNG, etc. (lossless). "Animation" is a good codec in that it's lossless, not as large as strait uncompressed, and supports alpha.

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