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sundialsvc4
12-12-2009, 07:29 PM
Tip: "it ain't about the product anyway." Never is, never was, never will be. If you think so, you're not just missing a point: you're missing an education.

Charlie Chaplin's film group was doing editing the old-fashioned way ... with tape and glue and a razor-knife ... and we're ROTFL to this day. No one (probably) knows nor cares what brand of tape was used: they bought what was cheap and what they could get. Charlie gave them the funny stuff to start with. The edit is what made it go.

Same deal with the other subject ... compositing. In the campiest days of Star Trek (the original show...) they masked people on-and-off the transporter deck with hand-cut masks in a real optical printer, and a bag of glitter dropped through a beam of light (once). It was good enough for the time. Fast forward to the original Star Wars, and robotic cameras showed this teenage boy what no one had seen before. The methods were crude. They worked.

That's why a forum like this (or any forum here) is supposed to be about techniques, not technologies. Some day, within our own lifetimes, what tools we are using will seem as hopelessly antiquated as that razor-blade and glitter-bag. But the techniques will still be applicable, at least to some degree.

Throughout his life, artists were pestering Charles Schulz to find out what brand of penstaffs he "preferred;" what brand of paper. But he could draw a funny picture on the back of a paper napkin with a crayon ... and once he actually did. (He was good because he drew funny stuff, so many tens of thousands of times...) Likewise, there was once a photography exhibit where about twenty famous and accomplished photographers were asked to use-up a disposable camera to take twenty-four pictures. The twenty-four were shown, unedited. "Wow."

Starting out? Well, you gotta learn how to use the modern day "razor-blades and cellotape," yes yes yes, but the real issue is always going to be learning and studying what other people are doing with it. You must master some tools, yes yes yes, but as soon as you get to the point where you're not cutting your finger quite so much with that razor (hint: cellotape will stop the bleeding ...), "it's all just a means to an end, and the end is the true subject of study."

Technology? Well, it's all different now. But light still behaves the same as it always did, and the physics-hurdles that are crossed by every technology have never changed in the history of the human eye.

scrimski
12-12-2009, 07:52 PM
People who ask this kind of questions failed to read the forum stickies and failed to use the forum search, hence won't even find this post(which I agree to in most parts).

beaker
12-13-2009, 03:35 AM
sundialsvc4 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=93006): You seem to be posting a lot of threads like this lately. Are you on some type of holy quest to inform the newbies by simply reposting in your own words what all the stickies and forum rules say?

I think newbies are just as likely to read your threads as they are to read the existing ones the FL posted many years ago.

jhorsthuis
12-14-2009, 04:21 PM
sundialsvc4 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=93006): You seem to be posting a lot of threads like this lately. Are you on some type of holy quest to inform the newbies by simply reposting in your own words what all the stickies and forum rules say?

I think newbies are just as likely to read your threads as they are to read the existing ones the FL posted many years ago.

sure, but the question remains: which thread is the best???

sundialsvc4
12-17-2009, 12:55 AM
"touché, mon puddytat" ... :beer:

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