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kotter
08-19-2003, 10:12 PM
I tried this thread in the focused critiques section, but I have'nt gotten any replies there.

This is something I've been working on for a while, and I whant the body (not the dress) to be animatable and deform somewhat nicely.

you find all pictures and updates here (http://hem.passagen.se/kotter)
derrick
08-19-2003, 11:51 PM
links dont work
when i open them in a new window they do though

nice model
sorry i cant help with the animating.
DogmaD
08-20-2003, 08:43 AM
It works,

You have to be a little more specific on what you want comment.

Your wire looks clean to me, it looks better then the render somehow. I think the shoulder and chest area could use some more detail.The collarbone looks like its a little high, making the neck look short.

The legs look a little short to me, but i don't know if you want comment on that yet, because you have a wire of just the upper body.

Thats it, its on the right track.
kotter
08-20-2003, 11:03 AM
thanx dogmaD.

For now I want comments on the upper body.
Someone said that the shoulders look too big... do you agree?

I will lower the collarbone later when I have more time.
but I don't want to add much detail before I've got the proportions right.
-frOogLe-
08-20-2003, 12:34 PM
The body is not too bad, quite good. I think the ears are too flat and need to be at more of an angle. And try to keep anything that deforms with bones as quads since skinning and how meshes work deform better with quads.

Sweet
-frOogLe-
kotter
08-20-2003, 12:48 PM
thanx -frOogLe-

I've been thinking of the ears for a long time but I have'nt done anything bout them... don't know why...

I'll fix them for the next update.
-frOogLe-
08-20-2003, 01:49 PM
One thing you must realise about female models is that you shouldn't define her facial features too much because chics look better with less definition, maybe on the lips more than anything.
So I think you can make the nose smaller and maybe just define the nostrils. Try to make her face shape more feminine and oval. Just keep looking at reference.

Sweet
-frOogLe-

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kotter
08-20-2003, 02:06 PM
thanx for the tips frOogLe.

Im currently working on the face, wich I'm not happy with at the moment
-frOogLe-
08-20-2003, 02:40 PM
You just have to add more lines where you want the detail to stand out. Cause the nose right nowis like a button. when I get home i'll give you a wireframe of my mesh so you can see for yourself.

Sweet
-frOogLe-

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kotter
08-20-2003, 02:43 PM
thanx, that would help alot
-frOogLe-
08-20-2003, 02:59 PM
You just have to add more lines where you want the detail to stand out. Cause the nose right nowis like a button. when I get home i'll give you a wireframe of my mesh so you can see for yourself.

Sweet
-frOogLe-

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-frOogLe-
08-21-2003, 02:22 PM
Not bad, getting a whole lot better :)
The ears are a bit fat though, and if you look at ears they aren't that high but i think the main thing is that they're too fat.
Give some 3/4 and side shots also so i can see the differrent angles.

Sweet
-frOogLe-

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kotter
08-21-2003, 02:28 PM
added another view (last post), will be working on the ear.
wgreenlee1
08-21-2003, 02:37 PM
Whats that seam running down the middle?
Also the sides of the nose need to come down a little(-Y axis).

Looking good though.
-frOogLe-
08-21-2003, 02:48 PM
I think you need to round off by the side of you head where the eyes are because they're a bit square and nedds to be more rounded.

Sweet
-frOogLe-

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kotter
08-21-2003, 02:50 PM
thanx for the reply wgreenlee1

I haven't attached the two halves of the body yet (that's why there's a seam in the middle).

The nose is still in progress, but I'll have to look at more head refs. Personally I think it looks better this way.
kotter
08-21-2003, 03:08 PM
updated the head again:

rounded the head by the eyes a bit,
the ears are less fat and smaller
kotter
08-21-2003, 08:48 PM
head updated again...

any comments?
DogmaD
08-22-2003, 02:15 PM
We see crosses, but the links do work if i enter them in the urlbar.

I think the breasts are a bit large...
kotter
08-22-2003, 02:20 PM
thanx for the reply dogmaD, I'll have to find yet another host :(
kotter
08-23-2003, 12:24 PM
I've been having trouble finding a good host so I've put all the images on this (http://hem.passagen.se/kotter) site.
-frOogLe-
08-27-2003, 08:51 AM
The face still doesn't look right. It's too flat especially around the eyes.

Sweet
-frOogLe-

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