The Sideshow- character - swag

[dodo3d]

nice idea
but I think I had read a thread talking about the same idea ,I am not sure .... any way good luck

[swag]

ok i find it i miss this post i did only a search for giraffe neck women but he is going to model a african style woman with rings not the thai giraffe neck woman

hmmm i think in the end there a more characters looks similar but iam not happy with this i thought i was originally

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Good luck man....i will check from time to time to see what u will make :wavey:

[Virtuoso]

Hi Swag..............:wavey:

Nice to see you enter,I can always look forward to your creations being both interesting and fun.I'll do as Dimi will...................check up on you and look forward to what you have in store.Good luck,and have fun.:beer:

[swag]

DimitrisLiatsos & Virtuoso - thanks - i hope to see ur entrys here too :)

[swag]

here is a concept
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_concept01.jpg

[Jackmars]

It's just nopt freaky enough,too real World.Done intentionally,not a freak of nature as most carnival freaks.I don't know just my thought.:beer:

[The FreakyOne]

too plane, this is based int eh 30's back then alot of side shwo freaks had trumendus amount so of tattoos, put her in some sort of skimpy alfit and give her a full body tattoo

[swag]

Jackmars - this is real world no freak here :) in 1900 padaung girls were sideshow characters -

ok you dont like it? have a go for a new one?

[Bytehawk]

It can work, although I would go a little more crazy with the freak factor

[swag]

i want start modeling so someone can tell me if the concept be worth while or i have to do a complete new one - iam not clear about it - Thanks

[JamesMK]

I really can't tell if you should go with it or not - personally I think it's not freaky enough, but I'm in no position to judge that... I assume you like the concept of neckrings and so on, so maybe you could simply add some deformity to the other parts of her body. :shrug:

[Bluemilk]

I like this one, but i would just exagerate the ring issue by having not only the neck done with rings but other parts of the body too.
Whatever takes your fancy!!
Maybe she could stretch like dhalsim
dhalsim (http://dark-msx.host.sk/Preview_skins/dhalsim.JPG)

[swag]

ok thanks for comments i go for it and there comes more rings some on the legs and arms like the real padaung one :) :beer:

-Bluemilk- the link didnt work for me but thanks

[Virtuoso]

Swag I think that in this day and age a character such as this is more common place,mostly due to the fact the the World as a whole has become a more freaky place. With the media of today we are able to see things far and wide.While in the time frame of 1840-1940 this was no where near as simple to see other cultures and other ways of life.

If you think of this character in the period of 1840-1940 she would be far more freaky in that time period,also depending on the place of the freak show,the culture differences, she could be regarded as a freak in a freak show.

I think the suggestion of dhalsim by Bluemilkis a very good one.It could add more spice and creativity to your character.Also JamesMK suggestion of adding more deformity is a good one.Possibly more rings around the legs,arms even waist to streatch these as well.Even freakier.Also this can give you the chance for some Contortionist positions for the character,also some good rigging tests for you with all kinds of bends and twists of the body.

Here's a simple shot of dhalsim.................

http://emulazione.multiplayer.it/gameover/frame/thumb/pers/streetfighter/dhalsim/dhalsim1.jpg


Ok on with the freak show Swag.................:thumbsup: :beer:

[swag]

-Virtuoso- thanks
ok iam late i will begin modeling today :)

[swag]

start with the head
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_head01.jpg

[Aearon]

good to see you at it again swag. not much to say yet, but what you've got so far looks good :thumbsup:

looking forward to see more :beer:

[BladeFX]

Nice start,
keep it coming :thumbsup:

[swag]

thanks to fist and BladeFX :beer:

here a wip one
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_karen_girl01.jpg

[Virtuoso]

And off you go to Freak land Swag.Just want to say the start is a good one,I know you will give this another great effort and a very nice finsh.Keep updating,looking forward to them.:thumbsup: :beer:

[swag]

-Virtuoso- i hope so ;)

some more wip
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_cloth01.jpg
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_hands01.jpg

[santosLord]

Looking good.. just out of curiosity , are those your own tools or did you get them from somewhere? Looks convenient. Well modeling is great .. keep it up.

[bjoern]

Hey swagiman :-))
Your modeling looks better from month to
month !!!!

go-aheeeaaad

bjoern

[BladeFX]

Nice update swag, however, the thumb looks a bit odd to me.
Especially in the top view.

But it could be just me :rolleyes:

Keep it coming. :beer:

[swag]

lord_rms thanks - which tools?
bjoern i dont think so - the difficult stuff is comming and than is time for challenge myself :) (its a nice wacom training)
BladeFX thanks - what is wrong the the thumb?

more wip´s :)
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_body01.jpg
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_foot01.jpg

[BladeFX]

This strikes me as a bit odd.

[OZ]

MMMH...very nice!....the foot model is very accurate!!! :thumbsup: ....keep it up!

[swag]

BladeFX thanks - i check this out :)

-OZ- thanks man i miss ur concept rush here :)

wip wip wip ....
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_leg01.jpg

[swag]

sorry i cant show more cause - kids on board :surprised :shame:
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_karen_girl02.jpg
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_karen_girl03.jpg

[pigwater]

awwww c'mon:shrug: .. we want the full frontal shot:D

this is lookin really nice swag .. great lines and is turning out wonderful .. she has a sleekness of style that is quite nice (from what we can see):thumbsup:

[OZ]

Yes! frontal shot!;)

[JamesMK]

Yeah, I mean, full frontal nudity... Even Monty Python did that, and they're brittish and all...

[swag]

hehehe u guy´s´re crazy :p

a render
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_render_karen_girl01.jpg
hmmm now the freaky stuff begin and the head with the bandanna will get hard to model - i hope i can do this with ur help :)

[swag]

my new skinShader - what u think?
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_skinShader01.jpg

[BladeFX]

looking good :thumbsup:

[phoenix]

:thumbsup: its turning out to be really nice

[phoenix]

:thumbsup: its turning out to be really nice

[swag]

BladeFX & phoenix thanks

i have rebuild the head a little bit 100% quads the eyes have now a more asian touch and better topologie
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_head_topologie01.jpg

[swag]

some more...
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_head_topologie02.jpg

[eYadNesS]

The body 70% good.
The face 20% good!

Look more for the eye topology and her mouth too.
You should work more in her face shape, etc...
And look more into your edges (It will be difficult in making realistic facial expression)

Check my topology here, I hope it will help you:
Face topology:
Link: http://www5.domaindlx.com/eyadness/020_3d_step14.jpg
Mouth, nose and eye topology:
Link: http://www5.domaindlx.com/eyadness/016_3d_step10.jpg

Finally good work swag, keep on working :thumbsup:

[swag]

eYadNesS whats wrong with the eye? have a look at asian woman (foto) this is not a standard doll! the face is not finished :) the topologie is finished and whats wrong with the topologie? all muscle rings are there where u see a problem? thanks for your crit its welcome and the only way to get it better :):beer:

[stallion151]

thats looking pretty good!
how did you do that skin shader?

[swag]

stallion151 theory is here http://www.androidblues.com/shadetut.html
i used a npr shader for skin color variation
its the maya standard renderer with a 3 point setup und gijoe for ambient light no texture (cause no uv at this stage)

[Karlstok]

Cool work,I think the eyes are fine,and the wire looks clean,nice shader,just maybe not freaky enough.Perhap when more is done thios will change?Nice still.:thumbsup:

[swag]

Karlstok thanks ... yehhh the freak factor is not so high :) but i hope u like it i want do a Karen woman and the freak factor is not so high as a 5 head 15 leg 20 arms lizard skined grand mother sorry :p

[JamesMK]

Very very good modeling going on here... Looking forward to see this after you've applied the freakyfier :D

[swag]

JamesMK thanks

here is a lowpoly screenshot there are some mesh updates

[swag]

this is the start there is much to do :wip:
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_head05.jpg
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_head06.jpg
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_head07.jpg

[swag]

some crit please - i need it :)

[McFly]

Not much to crit Swag!

Well, the ear could do with a bit of tweaking to make it more round. And the mouth seems to go outwards a little bit too much.

Other than that, great modelling. :beer:

[swag]

McFly the head is a low poly version
when i convert it to hsubd the ear is smooth hmm but with the mouth ur right i have to tweak it :) thanks for the crit :beer:

[swag]

screenshot
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_body02.jpg

[swag]

the cloth on the head isnt finished i have to tweak some verts here and there :)
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_head08.jpg

[swag]

the face is low poly - it was a test render -
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_render01.jpg

[swag]

ok now smooth face :)
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_render02.jpg

[swag]

http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_render03.jpg

[Virtuoso]

Well done Swag.Yet another top contender for you.She's coming out to be real smooth.The forearms,calves,and neck all are longer,streatched due to the rings.The cloth/garment looks good too.She does look more appealing with the lips more in,not too protruding.I think the feet could use a bit more size.

This challenge does not seem to have too many finished or even near finished entries unfortunatly,but you once again have gone quite far,always clean in your modeling.While she is not the prototypical "Freak",she still is a worthy entry and a true contender for this challenge.

I hope you can still give her textures,even if you have to take her to the WIP section after this challenge.Anyways,you get two thumbs up from me,once again fine work from you.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[KotsVlok]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
One thing that would make it freaky in a different way...a pose where she has taken those 'rings' of her neck :D

[swag]

Virtuoso thanks for ur words:rolleyes: - there is a lot of work (setup, skinning, pose, a prop (a myth stick...hmm who knows), a background, better lightsetup, uv´s and texturing hope i can do some things till deadline :)

KotsVlok she will die if she takes the rings away :)

[JamesMK]

Looking very good. You've got a very clean modeling style, I really like that!

I'd have to agree with Virtuoso about the size of her feet though. They should not necessarily be much bigger, but it looks to me like they narrow a bit too much towards, and including, the toes.

[swag]

JamesMK ur right the feets are too small - here is a update - some flipflops are not bad what u think
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_sideview01.jpg

[swag]

a background test
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_background.jpg

[Massoud]

very nice swag i like your work very much

[richd]

wow you are a challenge vet i see, you certainly have great ideas, nice

[swag]

-Massoud & richd- thanks nice to here ;)

here is the last skin test - ok is a bit pink
but i can controll the skin color very easy i like the pink one :)
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_skintest02k.jpg
big one (http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_skintest02t.jpg)

yehhh the hand is not for closeup a little crap :blush:

[Massoud]

i like this too.:thumbsup:

[swag]

damn - maya crash killed 2h of my work - but i do it now again grrrr this time i do more backups i will post it here - its too late for the challenge site
iam working on a pose with a item
:D :D :D

it was not too late :)

[swag]

dopple work is so frustrating but here for u guys :beer:

a big one is on cg challenge
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_final04.jpg

[swag]

here is another one
http://www.swag3d.com/cgtalk/sideshow_final06.jpg

[Virtuoso]

Once again you have finished a challenge Swag.....bravo and well done once again. Here is a couple thumbs up for you..................:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:beer:

[swag]

thanks virtuoso - see u in the next challenge :)

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