Windows 7 64 bit situation ?

[bls]

All works fine in windows 7 64bit. Programs, codecs everything you'll need.Blender also runs fine.Have you also check ubuntu 9.10? It's beta now but the official release is in 10 days. I tried it and it's very very fast.In my old pc (athlon x2 4400, 4gb ram ddr 400) need about 15 seconds to boot! It's amazing.

[biliousfrog]

I've been using XP64 since shortly after it's release, recently got Vista 64 on a new machine and should recieve my Win7 license sometime after the 22nd October launch. I haven't experienced any problems with anything apart from Quicktime playing in a browser where the controls are blacked out. Aside from that everything has been perfect even the QT browser issue can be fixed in Vista/Win7 by running the browser in XP compatibility mode.

[Srek]

I see no reason at all not to use the 64 bit version
Cheers
Björn

[olson]

I see no reason at all not to use the 64 bit version
Cheers
Björn

Did you mean to say there's no reason to use the 32-bit version?

[Srek]

No, i didn't mean that there is no reason to not avoid preventing the use of double negation under any circumstances ;)

In fewer words, get 64 bit :)

[olson]

No, i didn't mean that there is no reason to not avoid preventing the use of double negation under any circumstances ;)

In fewer words, get 64 bit :)

Oh, I just read your first post again. Its too early to read! :banghead:

[dren]

I've always heard 64 bit OS' from Microsoft were crap and nothing ever worked with them, but I plunged into the 64 bit world when Vista came out and I've had no problems with it. Everything works the same as 32 bit. The only problem I had was I couldn't play my game, Spore, on 64 bit lol

[CKPinson]

I also see no reason not to get the 64 bit version except for I never haven't not used it myself. Does tri-negation=positive?

[aglick]

hehehehehh

[danlefeb]

I've always heard 64 bit OS' from Microsoft were crap and nothing ever worked with them, but I plunged into the 64 bit world when Vista came out and I've had no problems with it.

That's a round-about way of saying you heard XP x64 was crap and waited for Vista. :)

Windows 7 x64 is better than Vista x64. Never used XP x64 myself, so I can't comment on that.

[Srek]

I used XP 64 bit for quite a time and some driver issues aside it ran fine for me. Vista 64 and now Win 7 64 added a load of driver support.

Cheers
Björn

[ThomasTheToolman]

I´m using XP Pro 64bit, the newest Adobe Flash Player and Quicktime 32bit without any probems. I use the free K-Lite Codec Pack as standard installation with Media Player Classic. Blender Install & Portable runs also pretty well in 64bit XP Pro environment.

For Notebook I wouldn´t suggest Vista or Win 7, because they need a lot diskspace and memory for allmost nothing that´s worth it.

Go with Linux or XP 64bit, they are ligther OS, stable and fast!


Regards
TTT

[SheepFactory]

Go with windows 7 64 bit. Works like a charm.

[ThomasTheToolman]

Go with windows 7 64 bit. Works like a charm.

XP Pro 64bit works also like a charm, but it doesn´t need that much diskspace and memory.

[ThomasTheToolman]

I used XP 64 bit for quite a time and some driver issues aside it ran fine for me.


Had problems with with some old hardware in XP 64bit, for newer hardware XP Pro 64 bit is now fully supported and drivers issues are also no problems anymore.

[vlad]

XP Pro 64bit works also like a charm, but it doesn´t need that much diskspace and memory.

Good grief, here you go again with that disk space b.s. :rolleyes:
My XP took ±6 gb, Win7 takes a bit over 8 gb. It almost fits on my thumb drive for Pete's sake.
And if Win7 feels faster than XP, it must be doing something especially good with ram, right?
Wake up.

[aglick]

yeah, let's not revisit the last "Which OS is better?" thread.

Hi Gian,

You asked about the current state of 64bit Windows.

My response is:

64bit computing in Windows has been rock-solid for at least a couple of years now - as long as you are using relatively new computers, components and applications.

The overwhelming consensus from those of us who have spent adequate time putting the new "Windows 7 64bit" through its paces is very positive. Pretty much everybody agrees that this is the most stable and all-around best Windows OS ever.

If you want to run Windows 64bit on a laptop (or any other computer for that matter), You will want to be damn sure that whatever system you buy/use is known to be supported under Vista64 currently.

By "supported", I mean to say that there needs to be 64bit Windows device drivers available for the video card, the sound card, the disc controller, the motherboard chipset and the other crucial components on the laptop.

Good Luck!

[danlefeb]

The overwhelming consensus from those of us who have spent adequate time putting the new "Windows 7 64bit" through its paces is very positive. Pretty much everybody agrees that this is the most stable and all-around best Windows OS ever.

I definitely agree with this. I've been using Windows 7 since the first beta and the x64 version since the RTM was released and have had no issues. The other day I got my first BSOD caused when I installed a partition manager that wasn't Windows 7 compliant. The system bluescreened, rebooted and auto-fixed the issue. I was very impressed...

Anyway, I think it says a lot about an OS that hasn't even hit the public fully yet when such respected people here say good things about it. It's gotta be doing something right. Just my two cents.

[ThomasTheToolman]

Windows 7 64 is allmost twice as expansive as XP 64, and if you really want a stable and Pro Windows 7, you have to take upper Version of Win 7 and they are allmost 4 times more expansive as XP 64. Like I said allready in other Threads, this more money for Win 7 it isn´t worth at all!
You are better with Linux or XP Pro in every way.

Don´t listen to the mainstream. People who tell you to buy Windows 7 are all manipulated by media or work for someone who is part of that big economic chain.

Doesn´t matter which 64 bit OS you are buying, they all handle Quicktime and Flash, for all Windows 64bit systems all manufactures have driver for their actual hardware.

[danlefeb]

You are better with Linux or XP Pro in every way.

In every way? Wrong.



Don´t listen to the mainstream. People who tell you to buy Windows 7 are all manipulated by media or work for someone who is part of that big economic chain.

Uh, wrong. And thanks for that extreme generalization.

Doesn´t matter which 64 bit OS you are buying, they all handle Quicktime and Flash, for all Windows 64bit systems all manufactures have driver for their actual hardware.

Really? I guess you're going to say it doesn't matter what hardware you get either, because it all handles QT and Flash. People must be insane to spend a couple grand on a computer when a $250 netbook will handle QT and Flash, so therefore it must be the perfect computer for everyone. Because that's all that people need computers for...Dude, you should just stop. We all get it...you love XP. So stick with XP. But really...just stop spamming your love for XP everywhere.

[ThomasTheToolman]

...just stop spamming your love for XP everywhere.

Why don´t you just stop spamming your love for Win 7 everywhere?
I tried Win 7 Ultimate 64bit allready and that´s what I would suggest everybody try before you buy it! Try XP Pro 64bit as well, XP is 4 times cheaper and handles all recent you throw at it.

[SheepFactory]

Thomas consider this as your final warning. Next time will be your last time.

[Johnpv]

Windows 7 64 is allmost twice as expansive as XP 64, and if you really want a stable and Pro Windows 7, you have to take upper Version of Win 7 and they are allmost 4 times more expansive as XP 64.

If you buy the OEM version from Newegg, Windows 7 ultimate really isn't that much more than a copy of XP Pro 64bit. For that little bit more of money you get an OS that will continue to be updated by MS. All XP support and development is dead now. You'll also get an OS that runs faster than XP. I tried out Windows 7 on my old Pentium M 1.6ghz laptop with just 512mb of ram and it ran a good bit faster than XP did on the same system.

If this was Vista yeah I'd say stick with XP, but Windows 7 is a huge step and IMHO its much much better than Vista.

I've been running the 64bit version on my machine and the 32bit version on that old laptop for awhile now and would not go back to XP at all.

[ThomasTheToolman]

Thomas consider this as your final warning. Next time will be your last time.

I say what I have to say and not just what you like to hear.
Sorry for that, but you better should arrange yourself with this.
It is a free world!

[ThomasTheToolman]

All XP support and development is dead now. You'll also get an OS that runs faster than XP.

No, XP is supported till 2014.
If Win 7 really runs faster than XP, it would be great. I have to make some tests by my self on the same machine with both OS.

If 7 is faster I buy it!

Edit: How can I figure out if Win 7 is faster as XP? How did you figure this out? Is there a Software out with that I can test it?

[danlefeb]

Why don´t you just stop spamming your love for Win 7 everywhere?

*sigh* How professional. Perhaps you should read the title and original question before you assume my posts were spamming...

How can I figure out if Win 7 is faster as XP? How did you figure this out? Is there a Software out with that I can test it?

Do a search on Google for benchmarking. Please don't hijack this thread and turn it into another OS vs OS thread.

[ThomasTheToolman]

Let us get professional and let us stop OS vs. OS.
Also let us stop suggesting to buy this or another OS, thanks! We know from last thread for such a answer there is not that one and only answer.

It is all about 64bit here!

[olson]

No, XP is supported till 2014.

Windows XP is now in extended support, not mainstream support which means there will never be any new features or application frameworks released again for any version of Windows XP. Only security fixes will be released from now on, and only the severe problems will be addressed. Expect software and hardware to require a minimum of Windows Vista soon since Windows Vista and Windows 7 have newer and better application frameworks that developers will definitely be using (that won't work with Windows XP).

For the original poster, there are still some issues with 32-bit only software like Quicktime. Generally though there are solutions. For example if you need a Quicktime out of Nuke use the 32-bit Nuke instead of 64-bit Nuke or export uncompressed and then make a Quicktime outside of Nuke. In the big picture these are small prices to pay for access to vastly larger amounts of memory. Cheers!

[aglick]

Seriously Thomas - You are about to be banned from this site if you cannot add any educated or (at least constructive) contributions to the threads.

If you want to remain here, you will need to close your mouth and open your ears.

The moderators will not stand for another hijacked thread.

We've all heard your opinion. Now let's talk about facts.

[SheepFactory]

I say what I have to say and not just what you like to hear.
Sorry for that, but you better should arrange yourself with this.
It is a free world!

Goodbye thomas!

[bluemagicuk]

I say what I have to say and not just what you like to hear.
Sorry for that, but you better should arrange yourself with this.
It is a free world!

'It is a free world' ... chuckle, thats the funniest statement i have heard since the last time i heard it.

[Jettatore]

Give 64 a go. If you have new hardware you'll have no problems on XP64 or even Vista 64. I went Vista 64 at first and it was awful, then downgraded to XP64 and it was awesome. Then later, after updates and new driver releases my Vista 64 is a rock now where before it was un-usable. I'm looking forward to Windows 7, I hear great things and I see that anything that works well with Vista works just as well on 7 and sees a boost to boot. 64 is ready to go, jump in.

[ThE_JacO]

For the first time since I have memory of using computers, the choices/options are pretty flat and obvious.
Everybody agrees (for good reasons) about what hardware platforms are good bang for buck, and OS wise you have win7 who's the first decent MS os in nearly a decade, ubuntu for the linux user wannabes at their first steps, or FC9-11 which will probably soon become the first supported standard aligned for all commercial tools since linux became predominant in large shops.

Not that hard to make a choice imo.
The fact people are agreeing doesn't mean there's a brainwashed mainstream, it means that for once in the combined history of CG and IT the situation is not a complete freaken mess :p
Listen to the mainstream.

[sebastian___]

Last time I tried to upgrade to xp 64, friends told me it's "buggy" and better stick to xp 32.

So I take it it's no longer the case ?
For 3d work only - Seven 64 is faster than xp 64 ? Are there any online tests for that ?

I will probably receive an answer now how 7 can better multitask and take advantage of memory, better email reading and so... But for 3d work ONLY ?
There must be some online tests somewhere.

[olson]

Last time I tried to upgrade to xp 64, friends told me it's "buggy" and better stick to xp 32.

So I take it it's no longer the case ?
For 3d work only - Seven 64 is faster than xp 64 ? Are there any online tests for that ?

I will probably receive an answer now how 7 can better multitask and take advantage of memory, better email reading and so... But for 3d work ONLY ?
There must be some online tests somewhere.

All versions of Windows that are 64-bit are stable, your friend that said buggy was probably referring to the lack of application and hardware support for Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. Buggy and lack of support are two different things.

For 3D performance, it doesn't matter which is faster because Windows XP is no longer supported and probably won't be supported in the next generation of 3D packages. Since Windows 7 is now officially launched, go for that. Cheers!

[sebastian___]

Many times when you wanna try something new - you get the advice it's better to wait so the bugs are ironed out or something. But with 7 many says "go for it"

I personally think that 7 has some missing features which are available in XP. Maybe in time those features will be available for 7 too. Another good reason to wait.

[olson]

I personally think that 7 has some missing features which are available in XP.

Like what, Internet Explorer 6, the welcome tour, dial model wizard? :surprised

[MugenTsukiyomi]

I think you should get window 7. I have it and it works with maya and 3d max. If not windows then i think you should stick with the mac.

[sebastian___]

Has more customization options. The beginners don't care about that but if you are the type of person who like to tune stuff ...

For example you can choose what buttons are visible on the Explorer. Remove the ones you don't use - like Burn CD and others - and add buttons which you use all the time.

The status bar shows you useful info like size of all files in folder, size of the selected file...
In Win 7 is enormous and yet again it doesn't show you anything.

NOt so good List view mode in explorer..

In explorer there's an autorefresh enabled. And no possibility to disable. When I work with thousands of pictures (rendered) that's bad for me.

Taskbar too big - takes valuable screen estate - and again no options to change that.

And more little things like that. LIttle things yes but they are many and they add up. BUt don't despair . I heard MS will implement eventually all these.

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