The Sideshow - Character - Bluemilk

[Bluemilk]

Think im gonna go with this idea, gotta find me some fat man reference.
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/SideshowConcept2.jpg

[ijinn]

wow, nice sketch, I cant wait to see the progress on your entry.

[dodo3d]

:buttrock:
I'll keep an eye on this

[Bluemilk]

Another quick sketch, just trying to get some character into it.
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/SideshowConcept3.jpg

[Hookflash]

Cool (and gross;)). Reminds me of that guy from Total Recall.

[JamesMK]

Very good stuff. Excellent drawings and concept! Having the little guy smoking seems like a nice touch, maybe he could be sort of britishly refined and drink tea with his pinkie pointing straight out...

[Bluemilk]

Thanks! i like the cup of tea idea, perhaps the big guy holds his hand out like a tray, so the little gut can rest the cup there.
1 more sketch now to modelling.
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/SideshowConcept4.jpg

[kevinfrompng]

it looks from that last sketch like the big guy walking on his hands, or is that just me? And I love the "refined englishman" type look that James MK mentioned. I would suggest taking it further, perhaps the big guy wearing a top hat and open coat and bow tie, but very poorly dressed, as if the brainy guy had told him to do it, but the big guy just could'nt figure out how.

Kevin

[Bluemilk]

ive started modelling!
SO much to do, he still hasnt got the character im after, gotta go look at facial reference.
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/SideshowModel001.jpg

[KotsVlok]

Great idea, really cool!..modeling is going nice i see, keep it up! ;)

maybe...if you let the big guy fill the little guy's cup with some tea :D

[Carlocki]

really nice

[Pufferfish]

This is going to be interesting. Great concepts!

That surely is one nightmare "creature"...hrrr
I feel sorry for the big guy.. the brainy looks so mean and bossy :)

[Bluemilk]

Thanks guys, Yeah great idea about the teapot. I love it.
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/freak002.jpg

[Bluemilk]

Just trying to block everything in before i do the detail pass.
Might even pop it in to ZBrush:) when its done.
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/freak003.jpg

[LucianoBerutti]

creative idea!!! really nice work!!!
really freak!!!

I´ll follow your work.

[Bluemilk]

http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/SideshowModel002.jpg
small update, havnt had much time to work on it. Having a little trouble with the neck, dont think my head suits being so fat, not sure. What do you reckon?

[JamesMK]

Pretty nifty!

But you're right about the head... Doesn't seem to fit properly. I don't think the head per se is wrong though - maybe set it a bit further down, scale it up slightly, and let that lower edge of the "ring of fat" grow bigger outwards over the shoulders a lot more.... ummm... hope that made sense...

[BladeFX]

This is looking very nice.
Great progress so far.

Keep up the good work
:thumbsup:

[Bluemilk]

Yeah, i might scap the head all together, think im gonna go and do some more sketching as ive straid away from the original idea alittle.
Also ive gotta start thinking abit of how to ground it in Victorian times too, gotta look at some clothing, boots etc.

[Bluemilk]

small update
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/SideshowModel003.jpg

[Bluemilk]

Cant wait to get this into z brush
i think im gonna have to split it up too, such as the legs and lower body half as the is a 250k limit, then i will piece it all together again. Gotta learn how to UV map it correctly too.
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/SideshowModel004.jpg

[MickLockwood]

How Do Mate

Looking really good, love the idea of him having that second head and those folded bony double jointed limps, And the hermaphrodite opportunities for the still poses ¡¥Genesis¡¦¡K. Like the way the fat host is coming along, great folds of flab and form. Can¡¦t help thinking he needs to be uglier, maybe make him look as if there used to a third conjoined twin, which died and was removed by a second rate have-a-go surgeon in the 14th century. Also think that he might benefit from a twisted spine, hunching over, walking with a battered, residue stained crutch, also support strapping, to hold up the extra load, and gratuities flab, you might want to get some pictures of Americans as reference ƒº

Any how keep up the good work

Later On
Mick

[Bluemilk]

http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/fatty.jpg
Done a crappy paintover with my mouse, like drawing with a wireless logitech brick!
just to see if i can actually make something out of this garbage. Not sure if the top hat is a good idea or not?
What do you reckon people?, some feedback would be much appreciated as im a bit lost with this one.
Cheers

[JamesMK]

Okie...

Hmmm... No, skip the top hat! And I would love to see the little guy hanging out a bit more, he looks a bit like an ornament now, if you see what I mean. Make him dangle about a bit :)

And I do hope, for the love of Zaphod, that the stuff hanging between his legs is a loindcloth, and not an enormously oversized and shredded... *:scream: * where the * :scream: * have sort of spilled out on the floor... :surprised

[Bluemilk]

Looking at it now i see how funny the top hat looks, wot was i thinking, im trying to give a sort of vacant look to the big guy, kinda like he is a zombie controlled by the little guy, but it still aint working, ho hum.
How do you mean dangle out? Protrude outwards or down wards?
Thanks for crit

[JamesMK]

Protrude outwards, mainly. That would make a secondary downwards result of course, but, yeah, mainly outwards IMO...

And I think the big guy already looks pretty vacant (insert Sex Pistols soundtrack here). Good job there!

[Bytehawk]

great work. Love the fat design.

We seem to have the same rough idea, you have progressed a little further than I have. I got my inspiration from watching an old schwartzeneger movie... (Total Recall)

Cheers

[Bluemilk]

just a quick one again:
I moved the little bugger down and out, look better?
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/skinny.jpg

[Bytehawk]

lookin good.

reminds me I have to get some work done, maybe I'll get to do some tonight.

[Bluemilk]

http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/fatfreak.jpg

just trying to think what the final image will be like, i dont think im gonna texture it coz my wacom is bust, but i might try and do a little animation, maybe?

[Bytehawk]

would be kewl to see the 'fat dynamics' applied to his flabs when he sits down.:applause:

[JamesMK]

Really good job so far! Btw, is that a mirror-seam running along his chest or an intentional sort of seam/scar?

If it's just not welded here yet, it might be a nice touch to put a really long sort of post-operative surgical scar right about there.

Like a memento of an earlier, failed, attempt to cut the little guy out of the big guy... Just an idea :shrug:

[Dargon]

It's really coming along - but I think the fat on the fat guy part, for the most part, looks a little too muscular - too much definition.

The head could stand to be blended a little more to the body, by making the fat around his neck a little thicker.

I took the liberty to draw on your render to show how I think this could be helped... ...hope you don't mind.

:beer:

[Bluemilk]

Wicked, Thanks Dargon, i see what you mean, thats GREAT!.
This is why im doing this challenge so i can really push myself as i feel i never really nail what i want on the head.

JamesMK, yeah its just a seam at the mo, good idea about scars and botched operations, i think locky said that too.

I put your paint over here so its easier to see
Thanks again Dargon
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/fat.gif

[swag]

Bluemilk this looks nice like the arms the legs need much more fat - melt the belly and the legs more together

[Bluemilk]

http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/yourmoma.jpg

Dont know wether to give him boots or not, never modelled a foot before so might do that.

[Bluemilk]

A leg test
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/fatleg.jpg
Ignore the dodgy folds

[JamesMK]

Ah, neat leg test. Couldn't stay away from Z-brush any longer, eh? :D Looking very nice, fat and foldy... And I see you added some stitches on his chest too - me likey!

[Virtuoso]

You are certantly reaching your concept potential here Bluemilk.Quite freakish,and interesting to look upon.Nice start.:thumbsup: :beer:

[Bluemilk]

Thanks Virtuoso.
Just playing and having fun, nothing major.
http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/fatty0001.jpg

[markw7]

Very scary. Dargon's suggestion was great, too.

[Bluemilk]

http://medlem.spray.se/bredro/Bluemilk/Cgtalkchallenge/fatty0007.jpg
hands next, also ive been looking at sumo wrestlers, if anyone has got any pics of really big sumo guys let me know.
Thanks

[Virtuoso]

Here are a couple ideas for you Bluemilk...........Keep up the good work,it's coming along well.


http://www.unison.ie/sportsdesk/review/images/gallery/sumo.jpg


http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ZcUiWdQIDRYC:www.brownstng.com/browns/truthcenter/bungles/sumo.jpg


:beer:

[Joel Hooks]

I don't think these guys are trying to reach a state of sumo, but here is some reference material I gathered for the Demons Challenge:

http://www.provinsal.com/fatties.zip

[phoenix]

Bluemilk very nice ......keep up the pacee:thumbsup:

[alexyork]

That's the ticket milky.... keep it going.
Love the ribs.. disgusting.

[McFly]

BlueMilk,

The biggest sumotori was, I think, Konishiki.

http://www.photoshot.com/wi/WI001/WI001preview/WI-0206-4301.jpg

Other photos here (http://www.chijanofuji.com/gallery.html)

You can also look up for Musashimaru (posted by Virtuoso) or Akebono.

Your model looks good, I mean bad. :thumbsup:

Good job! Keep up at it! :wip:

[swag]

oh my god - look at Konishiki ... the poor girl who has sex with this monster

[Bluemilk]

Thanks guys
But no time to finish as i have been on holiday and now i start College, so its drawing cars for the next 2 years for me.

Thanks for everyones input i appreciated it alot.
Cheers guyz

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