New Computer specs help?

[NMCDerek]

will anyone take a look and see if this is a good home workstation?

[ThomasTheToolman]

It looks like a good "start".
I am not a fan of AMD single CPU systems, but if you like AMD more then Intel, will it be ok. Watch out for the Ati GPU. You might be better with a nvidia graphics card. It doesn´t have to be a pro card for you. Take a consumer card like the GeForce GTX260-285, you will get a lot performance and also safe a lot money.

For allmost the same budget you could get a Intel i7 System. Is there any reason for you why you watch out for an AMD System?

My experience tells me, a Intel i7 has more performance and it is more stable as your AMD specs.

You can get a brand new 750W PSU @ ebay for 25€ with 2 years warranty included and safe a lot of money too (if you need a adresse, talk to me).




Regards
TTT

[olson]

It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. AMD Phenom II is absolutely the best processor you can use for budget builds ($500-800 systems), but if you're spending more on the power supply than the processor maybe priorities can be rearranged to get better performance overall for the money. For example go with a 500 watt power supply which is plenty and put the money into a faster processor like a Core i7 or more memory. Go with a $100 Lian-Li case and put the extra money into a Quadro or a backup disk drive. Those are just general suggestions but you get the idea. Cheers!

[CKPinson]

Olson nailed it- adjust your priorities. That case is pricey too. I have the Thermaltake Tsunami which is like $80, built very solid and has all the features you could need. I put a 650 W powersupply in it without a prob and have used a variety of cards without issues. To be honest anything over $90 for a case would be hard for me to swallow unless it was an ultra top PC but your specs are far from that.
The powersupply you selected is pricey too.
The Fire Pros are nice, the one that you selected will do good with most apps except on the games side of things. If you decide to go with a consumer card then go with one of the Directx 11 ATI cards. Fire and Quadro are par. Ati and Geforce are par except the new ATI which are Directx 11 opengl??? Looks like you're ordering 2 GPUs? No need to if you are.
Asus MOB have been good to me- is this one of the boards that can take DDR3 RAM?
Liquid cooling- not sure about this one, typically for gamers and MAJOR o/C.

[NMCDerek]

Thanks guys,

I'm looking for a pro workstation on a budget, where the video cards has to be pro gear so I can use high poly models in maya > max with out a slow down. Right now my pc I have now it can run high poly models but it slow's down tremendously while moving in the perspective window & rending.

[CKPinson]

I read great things in 3d World and else where about the new Quadro FX 1800- and I think you can find em for around $300. check into it.

[imashination]

Thanks guys,

I'm looking for a pro workstation on a budget, where the video cards has to be pro gear so I can use high poly models in maya > max with out a slow down.

Quadros arent faster, even the workstation card advocates will tell you that.

[ThomasTheToolman]

Right now my pc I have now it can run high poly models but it slow's down tremendously while moving in the perspective window & rending.


Didn´t we learn pro cards will slow down the FPS also as soon as the memory of the card is overloaded and swaps over to system memory during the workflow with high poly models? Yes, and it isn´t even long ago.

Means: Your PC will slow down while moving high poly models in the perspective window, no matter if it´s a pro card or not.

Nothing to think about?

[ThE_JacO]

It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. AMD Phenom II is absolutely the best processor you can use for budget builds ($500-800 systems), but if you're spending more on the power supply than the processor maybe priorities can be rearranged to get better performance overall for the money. For example go with a 500 watt power supply which is plenty and put the money into a faster processor like a Core i7 or more memory. Go with a $100 Lian-Li case and put the extra money into a Quadro or a backup disk drive. Those are just general suggestions but you get the idea. Cheers!
Agree with everything, particularly not sinking a million in case and cooler when you can get better bang for the buck with the standard intel cooler (or a 50$ one if you stay with a phenom II) and a 100$ lian li or antec case.

Same for the videocard, an old fireGL over a recent GTX is a waste of money imo.

I do respectfully disagree with the the PSU rating though.
We had this discussion before so we both know where the other stands :) I still would recommend a 650w PSU, or better 700+, even if not in the top range to go with an i7 + decent videocard.
Single rail top quality 500w ones could pull it off, but you will be shaving close. A decent multirail 700w is only 20 or 30$ more and in my opinion constitutes a good investment for peace of mind.

[olson]

Agree with everything, particularly not sinking a million in case and cooler when you can get better bang for the buck with the standard intel cooler (or a 50$ one if you stay with a phenom II) and a 100$ lian li or antec case.

Same for the videocard, an old fireGL over a recent GTX is a waste of money imo.

I do respectfully disagree with the the PSU rating though.
We had this discussion before so we both know where the other stands :) I still would recommend a 650w PSU, or better 700+, even if not in the top range to go with an i7 + decent videocard.
Single rail top quality 500w ones could pull it off, but you will be shaving close. A decent multirail 700w is only 20 or 30$ more and in my opinion constitutes a good investment for peace of mind.

More rails doesn't mean better! Just thought I'd throw that in there. Cheers!

[ThE_JacO]

More rails doesn't mean better! Just thought I'd throw that in there. Cheers!

Nope it doesn't, and I wouldn't say otherwise :)
But most decent PSUs for workstations nowadays are multirail, and in general multirail tends to be less wasteful, produce less heat (since entire rails can stay off if they don't draw, whereas a large single rail tends to have a ton of dispersion and self interference) and more durable.

[imashination]

Didn´t we learn pro cards will slow down the FPS also as soon as the memory of the card is overloaded and swaps over to system memory during the workflow with high poly models?

No, they wont. The difference in viewport speed when your scene is complex enough to fill the gfx cards ram and overflow into system ram is pretty minimal over pcie.

[vlad]

And dont forget SLI / Crossfire is useless in 3D applications ;)

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