Concept Illustrations for 1940s

[FormicaVirus]

In the first pick I think the landscape's either too dark or the man in the foreground's too bright. I think it's the first choice.

In the second the lighting's just okey imo.

Both look as if they're in the evening. I still don't like the look of the foreground characters though, they're too grey and stand out too much from the landscape, unless that's your idea.

[Katchan]

I'd have to agree with formicavirus on the first one, the background and sky looks hazy morning/evening like I used to get all the time living out bush (just ascross the tasman from NZ) while the fore and mid ground ( most of note the shadows on sheep and bike) look more mid to late morning

As for the second all looks fine time of day wise (from for-background) but to me the shadows look off in directions. The peeps in the fore ground have shadows from front left to rear right, but the background mountains look like they have shadows from rear left to right. If the sun is illuminating the peeps from the front left of the pic, all of the mountain valleys should be lit, not in shadow from one side

my 2c

andyroo

ps forgot to mention the guy at front casts shadow from front to back but his all in shadow

[felicitymoore]

Heyo

Thanks Katchan and Formica Virus! I agree with your points totally. Yes definately - will work on the figures and post back.

Need to develop my figures - this is the first time I've really introduced figures into my enviros - I need to treat them like any other object and loose the 'fear'!! Thanks a lot :thumbsup:

[FormicaVirus]

You're welcome, I'll continue following your progress, their composition is really nice already. I can't wait to see the result :)

[felicitymoore]

Heyo

Update of the rural scene first: I'm trying to achieve areas of light rather than an overall wash - definately not right though - too warm in places I think and I'm just not getting the correct overall feel yet!

[felicitymoore]

...bit more work....

[felicitymoore]

And now the Labourers in the fields - again I'm looking for areas of light and shadow rather than a wash of light. All crits very much appreciated! Thanks for looking!

[FormicaVirus]

I like what you did in the picture with the labourers in the field, I directly focused on the mountains in the background. I think you should focus on something more than the foreground characters, light them the same as the background characters. Now when the mountain's in the focus, making it more interesting, and with it's beauty perhaps more focus on the environment instead of the characters. unless, of course, you're admant about your characters being in the focus.

Did you increase the contrast in the other picture? I like it. I like the overall progress of this picture even if it's hard spotting any changes.

[felicitymoore]

Hello thank you for your reply!

- what I'm trying to do with both these images is work out establishing shots for the film for scenes set in Austria (the labourers in the fields - so the guys can see what they can shoot here in New Zealand and what will need replacing: the mountains will be the cgi element for the Austrian shot for example), and get an idea of a palette for the rural New Zealand shot (with the sheep - of course!).

I also want to present the images professionally and as well-crafted as possible. The figures themselves are really there for the purpose of story and scale but they do need work for sure but not be the focus - I'm trying to get a balance with them not looking so separate, they should sit in the image and I need to be more consistent with my style. However having said that, the environment is 'the thing' definately!

The other image I've worked on quite a bit - even though it doesn't show so much!! I'm trying to get the light correct for evening feel - I'm happy with the sky and background but still not happy with the mid and foreground - needs more attention.
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[FormicaVirus]

If you don't want them to look seperate you've succeded with the labourers in the field pic, but not the soldiers guarding them. The farmer in the rural picture is the same. They're too white and look more like they've been pasted from a sketch page so far. I think you should try doing something with them and then see what happens. Otherwise I think the picture's great. It's just the characters I mentioend which are out of place.

[felicitymoore]

Cool, thanks again! I agree - I spent too much time on them as individuals trying to work them, rather than treat them more as shapes and working on the picture as a whole.

Thanks for being so specific - I'll post updates soon as.
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