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mike.walker 08-08-2003, 10:43 AM I wonder if you can help. I have been commisioned to produce a 3d animation for a local cheese company. The scene requires a character to be repulsed by a slice of competitor's cheese so much that he decides to eat some cheese made by the company that I'm doing this advert for. Can you tell me how I can get him to really fear the cheese, how can I make the character seem like the smell of the cheese is so bad he is going to be sick? I have tried all sorts but it just looks like he is dancing around like an old fool.
please help, my life is on the line - i told them i could do it but i have absolutely no idea what i'm doing on this one. also, could you give me any help on how to make a character please? i have managed to make the cheese to a good enough standard that they might accept it, but the character i have at the moment is a bit ropey. if anybody knows of a place i can download a 'male linedancer' character I would be very happy.
thankyou for you help, i know you can get me out of this.
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Volker
08-09-2003, 03:49 AM
Why don't you make it look all old and maybe a little melted. Then have some really gross green "steam" lines eminating up from it. As far as "making a character". You might have bitten off more than you can chew. It isn't just a quick tip that will get you over this hurdle. Maybe check out turbosquid.com or something. Though you'll still need to know how to skin and rig him. Good luck.
~Zach
Wigaru Wiyamoto
08-09-2003, 03:55 AM
Can I have your job then? ;)
The key is gonna be in the facial animation.
bluedragon128
08-11-2003, 09:12 AM
Yeah having the cheese emit a green cloud is a great idea. You can have the guy smell the cheese, by getting really close (animating the nose), then have him pull back from it. Plus you can have him seem to lose his balance too (swaying from side to side). And having his checks go in and out like he is about to lose his lunch (green check color will help emphasize what is about to happen). You could also have him look around for something to puck in, but then sees the other cheese and it smells ten times better, and he takes a bite and the nausea is gone.
spakman
08-27-2003, 11:01 PM
You could always do a little of the usual misdirection. Some quick shot of cheese, and then an animation of how you think a person might react to, say, stumbling upon a half eaten, rotten carcass. mebbe hands to mouth, cheeks inflating in to no particular rhythm of the other reactions.
Get people believing the piece of cheese is terrible by hooking them into your character, regardless of what the bad cheese actually looks like. Before you know it, the television attension span will have ingrained in the viewers' psyche (thru repeated viewings) that your cheese is better, simply by empathising with your character's relief.
Kinda like all those beer commercials where nobody is ever actually filmed drinking the alchoholic goodness.
JBarrett
09-05-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Wigaru Wiyamoto
The key is gonna be in the facial animation.
Not necessarily just facial animation. The body animation will do a lot to sell this, too. What immediately comes to mind is a smell so strong that the character becomes physically weak. He struggles to stay upright, but is powerless against the rank odor of the cheese. He may weaken so much that he has to crawl away. The other cheese, however, could perhaps strengthen him. Not so physically strong that he develops larger muscles or anything, but enough that he regains his normal physical strength and stamina.
Anyway, just a thought...or two...
LucentDreams
09-06-2003, 03:36 AM
Timing I think is key, along with a good facial reaction. Best advice though, as with any character animation, use a mirror, act it out. how would you physically react to the cheese, act it out a few times then start studying what exactly your doing when you act it out and apply it to the character.
ronny
09-08-2003, 04:13 AM
check out Emperor's New Groove -- when kuzco first looks at the "hot crispy pill bug for the happy couple."
one of my favorite shots in the movie...
Kid-Mesh
09-08-2003, 06:48 PM
ROFL, this is a joke right?
Dude, fess up because you obviously shouldnt have taken the job. Get out before you ruin your reputation...cause in this business thats all you have.
The things you are asking for cannot be given to you through text but through your own experience only and alot of it. And Im sure your aware of that as well...
Not trying to be harsh but why waste your time and theirs and Im only going on what you said.
i told them i could do it but i have absolutely no idea what i'm doing on this one :thumbsdow
What your doing is dangerous....
KM
Andy741
09-10-2003, 07:17 AM
MIKE'S TOP TIPS FOR 3D:
http://www.geocities.com/mike_walker123/tips.htm
:D
Dearmad
09-10-2003, 08:03 AM
I love this bit:
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The scene requires a character to be repulsed by a slice of competitor's cheese so much that he decides to eat some cheese made by the company that I'm doing this advert for.
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:applause: :surprised
grury
09-10-2003, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Andy741
MIKE'S TOP TIPS FOR 3D:
http://www.geocities.com/mike_walker123/tips.htm
:D
Gosh it hurted my eyes, just looking at it, let alone even trying to read the yellow text..
...and those lens flares??? :hmm:
BigSky
09-11-2003, 09:32 AM
Perhaps you should think of using some of Kai Krause's
"Cheezy Goo" plugins...I think you can get them for after effects.
I know that Duncan Brimsmead was porting them as a plugin for Maya.
Basically, what these do is to take your character and then using special modifiers, add the look and feel of different kinds of cheeses...from mortadella to blue vein. But what's really impressive is that they have a "cheezy environment" parameter which actually influences the reaction of the characters in the scene to the strength of the cheese. What I'm thinking is that you might be able to write a custom expression to override the default values so you get something really gross!
SheepFactory
09-11-2003, 05:38 PM
Did you try out turbosquid? , maybe they have a character that'll fit your needs.
Regarding the animation part , there are a million ways to show the character get disgusted from a piece of cheese. Act it out in front of the mirror and record your performance on video if you can , that'll help as a starting point.
Post your anim here so you can get crits before you turn it in.
Ali
ZeroNeuro
09-11-2003, 05:56 PM
PLEASE forgive the sketching. I did it in what minute I had to spare.
I honestly do usually draw better than stick figure
SaucyJack
09-12-2003, 07:25 PM
Andy741
Cruel, very cruel but absolutely hilarious. People need to see this site. It should be on the front page.
Genius Genius Genius
:thumbsup:
Wait a minute. Is this the great British sense of humour at work. Mike Walker you are a "fakey cake maker" of the highest order.
activemotionpictures
09-16-2003, 08:05 PM
I wouldn´t ever believe any Cheese company will put up 2 of the hateful things among eating: ROTTEN CHEESE (bad odor cheese) and a MOUSE.
As a Publicist I´d completely re-design the add campain because, you´re not only going to loose your job, the cheese company will loose it´s market as well.
Just a little tip: Work on the USABILITY of the cheese rather than flavor. There are thousand cheese out there, if yours can make something different than taste, then you got attention.
David R.
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