2d: Angelina Jolie Portrait

[Draco-84]

I too have done an Angelina Jolie portrait although mine is 15 by 25 paper done in pecil...I'll send it to you sometime if you like.

Yours is much better I must confess! WELL DONE! :thumbsup:

[Soljarag]

Very nice, I think you need to modify it how Angelina wanted her poster to look like:

http://www.skymovies.com/skymovies/article/0,,1098934,00.html

The 28-year-old actress complained: "I wanted my nipples to be there to see."

[buzzlightyr]

She as stunning as ever nice work

[mattregnier]

The specular highlights you have on the sequins/chest area look very realistic, but it doesn't carry through to the face. In fact because so much detail is in her torso it really draws away from the face and makes it look flat. Touch up the highlights in the face and this piece will be great.

[friedrice]

hm.. she looks hot.. but doesnt resemble jolie too much

[Freestyler]

very well done, only I don't think the shadow on the right side of her nose is not correct. it looks like she has a bump on her nose

[dmcgrath]

I will not accuse you of a paint over. But it is so close, that it almost feels like it. I hope you take it as a compliment.
I think you ut alot of work into this, but you could go a bit farther.
My first crit is the white background. I know the Rolling Stone Cover (http://images.mp3.com/rollingstone/content/8359/Images/00328943.jpg) is mostly white. But even it isn't all stark white. You need to change that.

Also You need more skin detail. It is too smooth. You need creases on the fingers where they bend. And a bit of texture would help also.

Lastly, The area on the left side where the hair and the neck meet is too sharp. It needs softened a bit.

[ivo D]

very nice.. looks great.. but it aint jolie..

you got the head shape i think.. but for the rest.. i dont see it..


youll have to ad more detail..

[Goon]

Looks very nice :thumbsup:

(ur missing the cleft in her lower lip. its a very distinctive, very Jolieish feature)

[3dtutorial]

Nice image.

But....

I don't think it looks like AJ at all.

Still, a nice looking woman no doubt.

Cheers,

J

[Phugative]

Very nice likeness, however the skin is not rich enough in texture. Sure the photo was airbrushed but you have to take that into consideration when painting it. Also you need more reds in the flesh tone, it will help get the effect of tranlucency and help those shadow areas move back, maybe a pinch of blue as well. Nice job though, the proportions are great.

[Blud_Stane]

i think it looks like her nice work :) :buttrock:

[BoydLake]

I think the likeness is very good. The strongest part of the image is the cleavage (though that's understandable *ahem*). I agree more lighting/shading should be done to make other areas less flat. Take the depth that the chest area has and work that depth and range into the rest of the figure and you've got it. The worst is the hair and teeth. they need much more lighting attention i.e. more depth and detail in the hair and more dark values in the teeth. It's a nice likeness...be careful with the fingertips too. They look a bit squarish right now.

[3dtutorial]

Ok, I take back what I said -- I just saw the image on which it was based and it is pretty close.

Still there are some subtle problems.

The jawline lacks some definition and so do the cheekbones.

The cheekbones and some areas still look too flat.

Still, it's pretty darn close to the image but it still need a bit of refinement.

Nice job.

Cheers,

JRS

[singularity2006]

holy geez... the guys in the Photoshop forum will definitely want to talk to u about how the heck u drew that thing in photoshop!!! :surprised ddaaaaamnnn!!! And wow, her lips look better on paper than in person. =D

[MattClary]

Originally posted by mattregnier
In fact because so much detail is in her torso it really draws away from the face

She has a face???? :drool:

[mehdianim]

You know many people will be tempted to call it a paint over...especially becuase the dress looks so accurate!!!
In any case great work...or beautiful rather.

[davidSingha]

The image is awesome!

cheers:thumbsup:

[Skyraider3D]

You got those lips right :D

[swampthing]

if you overlay the painting with the original it's 100% identical when you flip back and forth. :shrug:

[BigSky]

Nice study in technique. The smoothness is getting to me though.
I've posted some little paintovers to show you what I mean. More spec. on the face, and a little bit of general grubbyness. I hope you don't mind.http://staff.ci.qut.edu.au/~barkerc/DCIPublish/Site01%20folder/Site01/Images/ajoliefinalPOver.jpg

;)

[RIpsTer]

It seems that there is almost as much discussion on how I painted this as there are comments on how to improve or tips on technique. So here is the back story.

I would like to pursue a career in game development. Particularly modeling and character texturing. I have made some characters for a few games recently and they were commented on several times that the skin was not very good or didn't have depth (which has also been mentioned as being a problem in this painting). So I've been practicing my skinning by doing a number of portraits.

Basically I find a picture or photo that would be good practice and scan it . Then I make a sketch on top of the scan using a 50% opacity layer to lay out the proportions. In this case here is my initial sketch http://penix.notworksafe.com/ajoliesketch.gif From there using a 3 color palette I paint out the low, mid, and high tones over the entire portrait using a high opacity hard edged brush. Then I take a low opacity, soft edged brush and start to soften out the the hard edges. I continue on the same path adding more colors the the palette and defining more and more edges until I get to a point where I'm happy with and go on to the next one.

I used the same method with this thread http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76730 and here is the initial sketch http://penix.notworksafe.com/amsketch.gif I thought my current one turned out pretty good and wanted to show to other artists so that someone could give me some advice on how to get more depth out of it. I appreciate those that had helpful suggestions. Especially Phugative for the more red and blue suggestions (I'm going to try that for sure thanks) and BigSky for taking the time to show me how to make the face better. I really like the improvements you made and will remember what you recommended for my next one.

I'm not quite sure what the term "overpaint" means but I did make my inital sketch directly from the scan. If that is what an overpaint is I apologize for not mentioning in my inital post. I do these only to practice my skinning and texturing. Anyone who does modeling knows you work directly on a UV map that will have your guidelines already in place. Also before anyone mentions, I do practice my sketching and drawing frequently because I know it is a valuable asset to have for game development as well, but when I want to practice my actual painting I do this method so I can focus more on the actual painting.

[Jabor]

Man, I have only one critique...

NICE BOOBS!!!:drool:

[Jabor]

Dude, calm down. Breathe, count to 10, anything.

The guy at least is on his way to learning something. You should be more supportive, give some advices or something. That would be more helpful...:shame:

[kr3ml]

You rock , dude !:buttrock:

[BigSky]

Hey BrandonSSmith whooah! Baby! Did you just break up with someone? Get fired? Stub your toe?
Paintover, sure. I don't think the dude is denying it, and certainly not trying to pull one over on us. Let's take him at his word, and give some useful crits eh?

[Draco-84]

Originally posted by BigSky
Hey BrandonSSmith whooah! Baby! Did you just break up with someone? Get fired? Stub your toe?
Paintover, sure. I don't think the dude is denying it, and certainly not trying to pull one over on us. Let's take him at his word, and give some useful crits eh?

Yeah Brandon, you need to get that baseball bat out of your arse man. This guy has clearly learned the ability to copy values that he sees from a picture. Sure he traced, sure he used a reference photo...haven't we all?
You were talking about driving your car off a cliff...
Weren't you?
I'd like to see some of your work.

[mikkot]

Hey dude !

Nice job... hope we'll see more of you..

To BrandonSSmith:
Calm down dude... Show us the stuff man.. give us something you've done. Show us, that you're worthy of worship man...
Chill out... listen to music... preferrally classical music... get rid of your anger man. Enjoy life.. date.. whatever... just get rid off your anger man. Hope not to see these outbursts here anymore.


/Mikko

[Slipstream3d]

Ignore all the dumbasses complaining about "tracing", I'm not very good at painting/drawing digitally, but I'm sure a hell of a lot better after I painted over a couple photos.

The revisions you've posted are very good, they help a lot. The style is interesting, it looks like CG rather than a Photoshop painting!

[JonasNoell]

Originally posted by BrandonSSmith
... NO TALENT TRACER ASS on here claiming to have talent one more time, im going to drive my car off a cliff, so that ill never have to see another one of these FREAKING POSERS!


Hope you definitely do next time!
Your post has NO relation to the thread. He neither called himself talented nor said he has drawn this without a reference.
On the other hand you clearly offend the board's rules by using vulgar language.

Why do I always have the impression to talk to dumb non-liked envious kids when replying to posts like that... :shrug:

[BoydLake]

Well, in my book there is a huge difference between using reference and painting over a photo. I'm not sure you learn very much of what you should learn about painting from painting over a photo. In fact the most important skill is how to translate what you see/observe/experience into an image. That's where all the cool creative genius happens. It will look like crap for awhile, but do your own sketches without tracing...and do a lot. Even color choices and blending is something you should learn to see on your own. If you look at the best painters around, their palettes are not really derived from anything you'd see in a photo, unless for matte paintings... but even for those you have to be able to generate color palettes on your own without relying on photographs.

Paint-overs are a pointless excercise if you ask me. I think what pisses people off about posting work like this is the deception. He said in the original post he used the RS cover as reference, then later said he painted over that photo. As an excersize that's fine, it just didn't deserve the front page plug that it got really, once all the production info was known.

[Jabor]

Man, this place is really filled with idiots. Jeez...

I never saw real adults peeking on each other like "You'll never get hired! You are not an artist! You are all 12! blah blah blah"

But I've seen kids do that. A lot...

That's really annoying, guys, don't you think?

But don't worry, I'm not talking about anybody who posted messages on this thread, it's just some people that I know here in my town... OK?:rolleyes:

And Boyd Lake, THAT'S an acceptable critique...

See you guys!

[roarty]

I dont know what everyone else thinks... (well I do..)
To me it looks like her.. I like it alot.
nice work

[Draco-84]

Does this look familiar Mr.Smith?
I don't wan't to start a fight I am just showing that everyone has to start somewhere. No matter how awesome an artist is...or thinks they are... they had to start simple.
Everybody uses reference photos when starting out. If you've never used a reference photo then good for you.
But Mr.Smith...you're not going to tell me that you've never seen these pictures before are you?
Just proving a point.

Can anyone guess which one Smith drew and which one I had on my computer?

[RIpsTer]

Boyd Lake: You are correct in saying that I should have put my methods in my original post. I should have done that in the beginning so I could have been critiqued on what I wanted critiqued on. I was seeking advice purley on the painting and not on proportions or composition. I did not know that doing this method was deemed so unacceptable. After I made my initial post I left to see a movie with my fiancee and noticed the comments when I returned and edited my post accordingly. My intentions were not to get some kind of glory or praise I only posted seeking advice. I thought that was what the critique forums were for. This painting isn't something I'm going to be putting in a portfolio or even on my web page it's just what I do for practice. Although I don't personally believe I've done some terrible wrong I do apologize to anyone who found this misleading.

You are, however, incorrect in saying that I painted over the picture. I only made my sketch from the picture the rest was done by looking at the magazine on my desk. If I want to practice drawing I use pencils and paper and try to come up with original character designs. If I want to practice painting and don't have a model with UV's layed out I do this. My goal with digital art is not to become a traditional style artist it is purely to become a good character modeler and skinner.

BrandonSSmith/Mr. Smith: After looking over your comment history I've come to the conclusion you suffer from a severe inferiority complex. I did not think this needed to be mentioned until I noticed that Mr.Smith's web page lists the contact information as Brian Smith but is under the subdirectory of a /artofbrandon/ . It appears you have dual accounts so you can either have conversations with yourself or try to make it appear as though more than one person agrees with your negative posts. If you are indeed two different people then I humbly apologize. :wavey:

I will conclude with saying that if any moderator or admin finds my original posting as unworthy or not fit to be posted here you may delete it.

[Draco-84]

Well,
I think that detective work deserves a "BOOM-SHAKA-LAKA!"
That's right I said it!
Nice work Rip! :thumbsup:

[wedge]

Originally posted by MrSmith
TRACING is a waste of time. you will never learn anything by tracing.

well... no, you're wrong. he traced the black lines and then painted over it. obviously he was practicing coloring and shading.

by saying tracers are no talent hacks, you're saying that those people who ink and color at comic book companies are no talent hacks. so he didn't draw the lines, so what? he painted them in.

you're also saying that professional texture artists are no talent hacks. its not uncommon for one person to build a model and another person to texture it. but guess what? when the other person textures it, the lines are already there! oh no, he's a no talent tracer!

[EVIL]

lol.. STFU smith.

he has problems with painting skin. therefore he traces over a photograph and uses it as a practice for painting skin. if you want to practice something you dont make something yourself. its easier and faster to trace a photograph and try to paint it digitally for practice. I cant see that you dont understand that. he wants to get into the modeling/skinning bizz in gamedeveloping. therefore we wants to improve on his skill. I am sure he is wel capable of drawing a image by just refrence or not by tracing. this is a very good start IMO. you can learn and study it to see how everything works etc and its a lot faster.

and brandon and smith
just look @ your own post's in this thread and realize about how immature these post's are. I hate peole who complain about something like this. its just as bad as people who constantly complain in a MP game (SOF2 or CS for example) about u using a specific "n00b gun" *gheh*. or "omg.. you are camping. kick him admin."

[Draco-84]

Originally posted by MrSmith
draco draco draco.

when did i say using refs is wrong? using refs is completely fine. TRACING is a waste of time. you will never learn anything by tracing.

IM TRYING TO HELP YOU PEOPLE! LISTEN TO ME AS STOP PATTING EACH OTHER ON THE ASS!!!!!!

p.s. brandon is my brother actually, but another guy showed me this link. it didnt exactly take a rocket scientist to discover we know each other.


:thumbsup:

[Sceme]

puuh....i lost all my motivations....
Someone works hard to get his skills raised...trying to learn how to paint good skin, etc....and they get critism like this??

i don't understand this.. :S

RIpsTer: what i can say, u have improved your skills alot!...and i mean alot progress!
great stuff:thumbsup:
and for all those whiners, i think u should really show what kind of textures u can make, i think they will shut their mouth then:D

[cupcake]

Nice Job. The nose is the only thing I would fix.

;) http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77444

Check out my thread.:wavey:

[ToastMan]

I must say that I've never seen anything like this before in here!
Mr smith, no matter what you say, or how you'll try to justify what you said, there is absolutly no room here for that kind talking!! Who the hell do you think you are?! Your comment was offensive and pointless!! This guy has stated that this work was for practice. I must tell you that I've never seen such a heartless comment in a forum made for SUPPORTIVE critics. My god dude!! What the hell got in to you?!?! If you wanted to say that the mathod he used is wrong, im sure you could have said it in a more civillized way. What you tried to do, on the other hand, was to completely destroy any fraction of confidence this talented (yes talented!!) guy has.

Where are the mods?! I really like to see what you guys think of this kind of behavior.

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