advanced toon render and SSS in cinema eventually

[caraffi]

sss w c4d without translucent pro

http://www.isis.de/members/~cisenburg/

[danb]

thanks for the link. i am not sure that is what i was referring to but thanks anyways.

[LucentDreams]

the video your refering to I am sure is the wysiwyg NPR video which is a pretty special system unlike any other out ther and not commercially available though its paper and rwesearch is available. as for SSS and advanced cel shading/npr only the future will tell.

[danb]

that makes more sense. it did seem like an external program the author was using. cool stuff any how.

[AdamT]

Seeing as how that Siggraph paper came out a few years ago I'm surprised it hasn't been developed into a commercial product.

[danb]

wow that is wierd. i didn't know it was made two years ago. maybe its to expensive to incorporate. hmm, too bad.:annoyed:

[JoelOtron]

I'm still drooling over that wysiwyg presentation. I have a friend who would probably pay the guy to develop it for a video he is doing.

I'm surprised the technology hasnt shown up in the commercail market yet as well. i was hoping something would be announced at Siggraph. It could really revolutionize the cg graphics industry--well for us little guys at least.

Maybe I'll write the guy a letter and find out whats going on.

[JoelOtron]

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/gfx/proj/wnpr/

EDIT:

check the link at the bottom of the page too--The Princeton Group Graphic Projects:

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/gfx/projects.html


Some cool stuff there as well.

[LucentDreams]

Originally posted by AdamT
Seeing as how that Siggraph paper came out a few years ago I'm surprised it hasn't been developed into a commercial product.

You must keep in mind these are work in progress researches, that paper when it came out was not a finished thing, The authors have released two papers at this years siggraph developing the original ideas further. I've been reading up on them al day since I missed the presentations while I was at siggraph.

[JoelOtron]

Cool KAi---good to know. So far you're the only person who mentioned seeing more info on this at this years Siggraph.

[LucentDreams]

well generally people don't discuss the papers as much since papers are the ultimate geek factor of siggraph, and generally most people won't understand. Heck at least 90% of the papers I look at and see what they are doing can't figure out how theya re doing it, some very impressive stuff this year on textures and methods of tiling textures and applying them to arbitrary object, very impressive stuff. the two big papers on NPR stuff are both written by the same team as the link above, but they split into two focused teams it seems. the first is on "suggestive contours for conveyinmg shape" which, when mixed with typical contour line detection produces some very nice results. The second is on "coherent stylized silhouettes" which is an expansion on the main focus of the oolder paper spplying specific types of storkes and controlling them better along a line.

[danb]

cool kaiskai that is good news. it would have been a shame to let the technology slip away.

[LucentDreams]

Well it seems the crew at princeton seem to be the only ones still focusing on developing a lot of new concepts, there are many techniques out there seems most companies are more focused on refining rather then developing, so its the institutions that are left with the developing and princeton is the only one strongly focusing on NPR.

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