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Medwyyn
07-30-2003, 03:42 PM
Well, as a rule you should never let your cat step all over your keyboard, and despite my best efforts, mine did. Bad cat, bad me. Actually, the cat stepped on the hand I had placed over the keys, resulting in my pressing down the User key on my new wireless USB keyboard. According to the docs, this Logitech keyboard and drivers have an issue with Win XP, in which the computer will bluescreen upon waking up after a User key press that enable sleep mode. So, I have a Gigabyte 7VAXP Ultra, and 3 harddrives. Luckily for me, they are all NTFS, and the drive I "lost" isn't too important, but I'd like to get my data back. Both XP and the computer still see the drive, however, upon attempting access, I am told the drive or volume is corrupt. Disk check won't run, due to a drive not formated. Disk Management sees the drive as the two partitions, a 11 gig file area, and a 1 gig area I reserved for swap file space. The manager also lists the drive as healthy, and a basic (active) partition and extended partition with a logical drive. Fine. Using Explorer, the drives are RAW formatted, and 0 bytes of 0 bytes.... I have lost a drive in the past, back in the days of single, expensive drives, fat16 and defrags gone horribly wrong.... Hopefully things have improved. Checking on the net, I've downloaded a trial version of File Scavenger v2 from QueTek Consulting Corporation (www.quetek.com). This program, when run in defunct partition mode, does find the files on both drives. This is good, so I might as well spend the $40 to get my data back, recover it to another drive (hope I have room, might be time for an upgrade....), reformat the drive, and move the data over. Does this sound like a good process? Has anyone successfully completed recovering data from a drive? Anyone have any idea what went wrong, aside from pushing the User button? My bios has suspend to ram S3 mode disabled, because I read somewhere about USB issues with that mode. The system might have been running a background defrag when I put it to sleep, not sure. I had one application open that used/resided on that drive, but it wasn't doing anything (download manager), and no other processes were accessing that drive. As a side note, my system still, on occasion, suffers from the dreaded IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL crap, but it is not too often. Latest drivers, 4.48, Nvidia Ti4200 128 meg with the 40.72 drivers (Have used 44.03 and up). When the system dies, and after a restart, the USB (and PS2) ports do not work. The only solution I have found is to disconnect the power, hit the power button (fans spin for a second) and then reconnect the power and restart. Everything is fine then. Unusual or not? Thanks for any and all replies, I've found these forums in specific to be very helpful and educational, and the artwork stunning and inspirational.
M.

PS The cat is fine, I didn't do anything to him, as it was really my fault, and besides, I wouldn't hurt my cat anyway!

Gigabyte V7VAXP Ultra
AMD 2000XP (not a "good" one, but have a Aeroflow TMD heatsink, very highly recommended)
412w. Antec 2 fan PSU
Nvidia Ti4200 8x 128mb (copper heatsink, better fan)
Creative Labs SBlive
1024 mb (512 x2) Crucial PC2700 DDR Ram
3 Harddrives of various brands and sizes
12x DVD drive
Logitech Mx500 mouse (USB), Wireless keyboard (USB)
Compaq Ipaq PocketPC 3765 (USB)
Que USB2 32x10x40 CDRW
Black Chieftec case

Signal2Noise
07-30-2003, 04:14 PM
I stopped at "Well".

Hint: Paragraphs, man. Paragraphs.

Glad to hear the cat is okay, tho':thumbsup:

Invader Zim
07-30-2003, 06:33 PM
Go on www.cnet.com and do a search for unformat/undelete utilities. Pick one that has the highest rating. Try it.

Good luck, hope you recuperate all of your stuff.

BTW - Your text was long...

Abominable
07-31-2003, 12:02 AM
Please like S to N said....PARAGRAPHS!, man that hurts the eyes.

Anyway, I want to know what kind of drive you are running that went for hell on ya. I have had pretty much the same thing happen to me 3 times. Finally a replacement drive is on the way much to thier chagrin. Data recovery is crazy expensive...and get this....the place I looked at charges 20$ for every CDR they burn for you with your files! After some research and almost tears I was able to get my own files back and do a low level format.

Did you fix your problem yet?

ZrO-1
07-31-2003, 01:00 AM
It sounds like you lost either the MBR (master boot record) on that particular disk, or the partition table (says where partitions/directories/files begin and end). You definetly lost the info about the formatting since it was comming up as "RAW" which means the OS doesn't see any formatting it recognizes.

The disk recovery or "un-delete" utilities work well and should be able to recover most if not all of your data. The File Scavanger 2 utility is a good one.

You can definetly move the files you recover to a good disk then re-format/re-partition the bad drive and move the files back. No problemo.

PiledotNET
07-31-2003, 03:55 AM
Hi guys.

I think I've got the same problem with my hard drive last week.

At bios, the HD is detected (Slave - Maxtor - 30gb). No problems.

But at windows, it does not show up. Like there's nothing pluged in. No HD, no nothing.

I don't understand, why BIOS detected the HD and Windows didn't?

It's a master boot record problem?

Abominable
07-31-2003, 05:24 AM
Ya sounds like exaclty the same things I went through recently, don't worry, you should be able to get all your info back. BIOS would see my drive, but in XP it wouldn't even show up. It would say that it was connected, but it would have almost 80 Gigs available, couldn't read it, Norton Disk Doctor wouldn't run on it etc, etc, blah, blah...everything that has been mentioned above pretty much. I tried eveything that I could think of in XP and could find on newsgroups, disk management, ran the Maxtor utilities etc. to no avail.

What I ended up doing was using a program called R-Studio and it was heaven for me, got me back into my drive no prob so I could back it up and re-format it. One of my tech friends told me to use a program called Easy Recovery Pro that he uses but I never got around to that. The price difference is huge though. I think Easy Recovery may have a lite version as well.

By no means am I a super tech wizard when it comes to computers so my problem may sound basic to some of you guys, but R-Studio saved my ass.

R-Studio (http://www.r-tt.com/RStudio.shtml)
Easy Recovery (http://www.ontrack.com/easyrecoveryprofessional/)

Sieb
07-31-2003, 06:25 AM
Look for a program called "Get Data Back", there's one for FAT and one for NTFS. We use it at our office, works great, even finds data after a format. We recovered an entire 80gig drive once. Data isn't gone until its been overwritten, and even then it can sometimes be recovered.

Cod
07-31-2003, 07:22 AM
A friend of mine told me to inform you that you can try to scan the drive with Norton Disk Doctor from a different computer, to see if you can repair the partitions.

Good luck bro!

Medwyyn
07-31-2003, 02:06 PM
Er, right. Wow. Sorry about that, people. Paragraphs are a good thing, as many years of Honors English should have told me. Working 3rd shift with a busted knee and no sleep will do that to you.
Thanks for all the replies. I think I am going to go with File Scavenger 2, buy a new harddrive, and start again from there. I've run with Maxtor and Seagate drives, and haven't had problems with them up to this point. I think it was a nasty shutdown that fried either the MFT or the MBR of both. Kinda glad I chose NTFS over Fat32. Again, thanks.
M

PiledotNET
07-31-2003, 10:18 PM
What's the name of the table that apears after the BIOS check up? Like a DOS post bios screen with a lot of the information about your computer...

I realized that the HD is not listed there, just INSIDE Bios.

The only place that tells me the HD is pluged is inside Bios. Not listed post bios screen and windows.

It shouldn't be listed there even if the windows couldn't?

I'm asking this again because I did think that post bios screen lists the same things that bios does. But it doesn't.

Abominable, have you noticed the same thing (post bios screen) with your HD problem?

Tnks.

Abominable
08-01-2003, 04:30 PM
PiledotNET...Tell you the truth I never noticed that. Showed in BIOS when I went into it, but never noticed the post screen, sorry. I was too busy wondering how the hell I was going to fix it. :-)

PiledotNET
08-01-2003, 08:48 PM
Hehe, tnks anyway :)

If the program doesn't help, I will buy a new HD (same model), and switch the board under the HD.

Been very carfuly isn't there any problems right?

Abominable
08-01-2003, 09:13 PM
Not sure what problems your trying to describe there and about switching the board.....(If you buy a new drive just use it..??)

Physically there should be nothing wrong with the drive itself. Just run (program of choice, I used the R-Studio) and it should give you the chance to retrieve and back up all your info with no prob. Then just give your drive a nice long format and it should be fresh once again.

GregHess
08-02-2003, 04:10 AM
I'm just going to throw together a troubleshooting guide here real quick. Hopefully it will help with your drive problems...

Step 1: Identify the Problem

Is the drive spinning up?

If not, check the power connectors. Remove any splitters and plug directly into the rear of the drive. Try a different power plug. Try a different Power supply. Check the drive's jumpers for autospinup settings (some scsi drives have this)

Does the Computer's Bios detect the Harddrive?

If not....check the IDE cables. Try a different cable, check for tightness (that its fully in the drive). Try a different IDE port. Try a IDE controller card. Try a different Computer. Try adjusting the jumpers and position of the drive from slave, master, single, and cable selection. Try a Ultra33 cable, instead of the newer U66 ones.

Can Windows Read the Drive?

If not, try the BIOS troubleshooting. Also try running the drive off the STANDARD IDE ports instead of a controller card. This eliminates the possibility of driver issues.

Does the drive show up in windows temporarily then disappear while copying?

Try the above troubleshooting methods...If they don't solve the disappearing drive problem....try accessing it in DOS via a boot disk.



IF you can get the drive to read in DOS...

Download and run the drive utilities posted by the manufacterer. All major HD companies have their own specific toolsets to deal with various drive issues. Ranging from bad sectors, to full blown failures.
The tools only work however...if your computer can see the drvive.

Download and run a freely available drive repair/diagnosis program.

Spend a crapload of money and purchase spinrite. (use google, I'm too lazy to post the url).

If you can get the drive to read in Windows but your Data is gone....

Download and try file restorer 2000 pro. (Use google). If the program can SEE your destroyed/deleted/damaged/lost data...then BUY the program and get your data back.

I had more solutions and url's, but then I accidently closed IE while in the middle of the post.

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