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J-Dude
07-13-2009, 09:30 AM
I'm currently in the pre-production stage of a fan-film I want to make, one which will take a lot of things, but which I'm gradually getting the necessary equipment for. I got an HD camcorder, tripod, recently purchased a green screen, designing and getting parts for a custom suspended "flight" rig (for use in my garage against the green screen only, don't worry). I'm about to purchase the "Poor Man's Steady Cam" kit, and I've got Syntheyes, Vegas, and 3DSMax 2009 for post production. My friend also has connections to professional lighting, and will be able to supply us with lighting gear.

Anyway, I'm hoping to test and expand my horizons with this, bringing CG models and effects into a real life environment, hopefully seamlessly with the aid of Syntheyes, which will be further aided by the steady cam and 720p resolution.

Well, I've run some live action tests in the past, bringing footage into Max, and doing all my CG work against that footage. However, this becomes most difficult when CG subjects are required to pass behind an actor or complex object in the scene.

My best solution has been to apply a shadow/matte material to a many-segmented plane and then animate and reshape the plane to go over the character/object in order to allow CG elements to pass behind them with a makeshift garbage matte. This however is a tedious and extremely inaccurate process. Depth also becomes an issue.

Now, certainly I could take my green screen footage, render certain 3D layers separately with an alpha, and do things that way, but I can't have actors being composited into a scene they could more easily actually be PRESENT in, every time a CG effect is required.

I mean, look at most films. You can tell the actors and the backgrounds were in the same place at the same time. And yet CG effects are still matted in behind them and in front of them. I have to figure there is a more efficient way of achieving this. Not automatic perhaps, but something that is easier to guide than 300 vertices all individually placed frame to frame.


Anyone out there have some knowledge I might find useful?

scrimski
07-13-2009, 09:50 AM
3dsMax is an extremely bad choice for matting out characters.
Any compositing package supplies some kind of animatable mask(the process is called rotoscoping), there are a variety of methods using keys(chroma key, luma key, difference) to matte out characters/props.

SeaJackal
07-13-2009, 11:12 AM
Silhouette is a dedicated rotoscoping package. For me it's the best one out there. I am ony familiar with version 2. Version 3 adds more compositing tools

http://www.silhouettefx.com/silhouette/

another package to look at with a diferent patadigm is Mocha from imagineer systems:

http://www.imagineersystems.com/products/mocha/

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