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RobertoOrtiz
06-29-2009, 02:35 PM
Rob Note: I will be posting these PRE-PRODUCTION THREADS so we can create a cohesive vision of this universe. Good research will be key for the pieces created for this challenge. We will attempt with this challenge to recreate the spirit of adventure of a movie serial of the 1930's & 40's.

For more info of what a serial is go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_serial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_serial)

Captain Marvel movie serial (link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtuJw7jAAKQ))
KING OF THE ROCKET MEN (link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRavD_AB8aA))
Flash Gordon (link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B707Ava4wrY))
BACKGROUND:

The next modeling challenge will be
"The Queen of the Rocketmen"


Imagine you have been comissioned to do video games based on the aviation world of the 1930
A world of danger advanture, air pirates, zepellins and crazy air machines... (similar to the Indiana Jones universe, but where Jet packs, giant air machines and robot hechmen are a reality)

Join us as the Queen of the Rocketmen and her band of merry men fight the evil air pirates in the air above the South Pacific.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR:
Post links of photos of

1930's , 1940's fashions
1930's , 1940's Womens Fashions
1930's , 1940's Airships
1930's , 1940's Movie stars (for referecne of the standards of beauty of the day)
1930's , 1940's Locales
Real life rocket packs (videos)
Real life Airships (videos )
Real life Crashing Planes (videos )
Any sort of reference that might seem relevant

RobertoOrtiz
06-29-2009, 02:47 PM
Here are some examples:
REFERENCE:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biplane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloon_(aircraft)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Trimotor
Here are more clips for inspiration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRavD_AB8aA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9D...feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9DUjLDjco&feature=related)
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1930's , 1940's fashions

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1930-1945_in_fashion"]wiki/1930-1945_in_fashion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-oQ--U-WaQ&feature=related) (article)
1930's , 1940's Movie stars

Rita_Hayworth (http://rita_hayworth/) (link)

Photos: link (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oGkkr_0khKVmoBNb9XNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=rita%20hayworth&fr2=tab-web&fr=yfp-t-106)

Marlene_Dietrich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlene_Dietrich) (link)


Photos: link (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oGk5Xg00hKNSgArk5XNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=marlene%20dietrich&sado=1&fr2=tab-web&fr=yfp-t-106)

Vivien Leigh :(link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivien_Leigh))


Photos: link (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oGkjKG1EhKwCcAUZRXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=vivian%20leigh&fr2=tab-web&fr=yfp-t-106)




REAL LIFE Rocketman

Swiss Rocket Man - Yves Rossy (link) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-oQ--U-WaQ)
Consumer Jet Pack 2008( link) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agTDPRQuZVc&feature=related)
HUMAN ROCKETS - Para Gliding & Wing Suits (link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7i9ycE9PQ))

Intervain
06-30-2009, 12:11 AM
This is a fashion editorial from the July issue of Harper's Bazaar (http://www.fashiongonerogue.com/?p=6661) which I find quite appropriate for this thread.

Also let's not forget The Aviator (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=5090)

WyattHarris
06-30-2009, 04:45 PM
Google's LIFE Magazine (http://images.google.com/hosted/life/) photo archive is a gold mine for vintage material.

Jane Russell (http://images.google.com/images?q=jane+russell&q=source%3Alife)
Charles Lindbergh (http://images.google.com/images?q=1920s+Charles+Lindbergh+source:life)
Amelia Earhart (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=amelia+earhart&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=0&oq=amelia+)

Whoa just found this site: http://moviemaidens.com/
Slow but it appears to have everyone.

lucerro
07-02-2009, 01:58 AM
as bad as the movie was "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" is what we're shooting for? or something along those lines?

EDIT
oops forgot a link Google result for Sky captain images (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&um=1&ei=dBRMStDSO9SrlAeIoPH0DQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=sky+captain+and+the+world+of+tomorrow&spell=1)

also are we gonna be going for realism or is stylized open as well, to me the serial genre just screams stylized

RobertoOrtiz
07-04-2009, 06:03 PM
as bad as the movie was "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" is what we're shooting for? or something along those lines?

EDIT
oops forgot a link Google result for Sky captain images (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&um=1&ei=dBRMStDSO9SrlAeIoPH0DQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=sky+captain+and+the+world+of+tomorrow&spell=1)

also are we gonna be going for realism or is stylized open as well, to me the serial genre just screams stylized
stylized is fine...

Actuall it is a good idea.
If you want to do a stylized entry I would base the artwork of the entries on classic vintage airline posters of the time..

Here are some examples:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9teen87/2517075945/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9teen87/2517097617/in/photostream/
link (http://www.hawaiin.com/Classics/Air/index.html)
link (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=pan+am+posters&sp=1&fr2=&y=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-501&x=wrt&js=1&ni=21&ei=UTF-8&SpellState=n-2202028314_q-zVX5ye85miNMTI8iBI6k2gAAAA@@)
link (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0geusrFmU9KgP4AGA5XNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=classic%20airline%20posters&sado=1&fr2=tab-web&fr=yfp-t-501)

RobertoOrtiz
07-04-2009, 08:09 PM
here are some clips from the film:
The Rocketeer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbpMigz97_g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJL9aVp_1jE
And for more here is newsreel footage of the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH2XFMrA4Tc&feature=fvsr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duZDzQTZ1vQ
Rocketeer - Nazi Propaganda Cartoon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQwT9z0Jyc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edelsquacho%2Ecom%2Fblog%2F2008%2F03%2F20%2Fhey%2Dhollywood%2Dwhy%2Dnot%2Dremake%2Dthe%2Drocketeer%2F&feature=player_embedded)
Stills (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3949371136/tt0102803)

RobertoOrtiz
07-06-2009, 04:10 PM
Here is some disney concept art from

Atlantis The Lost Empire:


link (http://animationarchive.net/Feature%20Films/Atlantis-The%20Lost%20Empire/Concept%20Art/)

AlyFell
07-08-2009, 06:23 AM
I wish I had time for this as it's SO up my street, but a couple of useful links for people:

Doctor Macro (http://www.doctormacro1.info/Movie%20Summaries/F/Flash%20Gordon%20%281936%29.htm)

Which is an excellent site for hi-res images of movie stills and stars, mainly from the Golden Age.

and

http://www.archive.org/details/radarmen1

Which is a Republic serial and very appropriate. You can download or watch online public domain material from Archive.org including many Flash Gordon episodes.

RobertoOrtiz
07-10-2009, 09:35 PM
James Cagney - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cagney)

Spencer Tracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Tracy)

Clark Gable - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_Gable)

japetus
07-31-2009, 05:37 AM
I posted this over in my thread, but this is a great site for some weird tech and research going on at the time. I think it could give people some great alt-future/past ideas

"Modern Mechanix is proving to be a pretty neat resource of the then-future of blimps, crazy crazy stuff but gives me great ideas:

Bicycle dirigible (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/19/one-man-bicycle-dirigible/?Qwd=./ModernMechanix/9-1929/dirigible&Qif=dirigible_1.jpg&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=XL#qdig)

300 MPH zeppelin (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/09/3oo-mile-an-hour-zep-plane-proposed/)

not sure if this is going up or down (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ScienceAndMechanics/11-1931/lrg_cover.jpg)

gasless dirigible (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/11/gasless-dirigible-for-safe-air-travel/)

atomic dirigible (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/22/why-dont-we-build-an-atoms-for-peace-dirigible/)
"

WyattHarris
07-31-2009, 09:11 PM
The 'making of' for Sky Captain mentions a few main influences and the biggest one is Hugh Ferriss.

Google Search (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Hugh%20Ferriss&cts=1249074181651&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)

From what I've read about the guy he is largely responsible for inventing the stylized architecture showcased in Sky Captain. Mostly in his renditions of New York that eventually lead to the Empire State Building.

japetus
08-19-2009, 06:28 PM
I thought these concept ships by Mike Doscher were pretty interesting:

http://conceptships.blogspot.com/2009/08/mike-doscher-concept-ships.html

RobertoOrtiz
09-28-2009, 12:40 AM
Douglas DC3 Photos

link (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dc3+cockpit&FORM=BIFD#focal=94cf537690fd3fc3907c634b43b5f638&furl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postcardpost.com%2Fcw113.jpg)

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