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sanja
06-25-2009, 07:49 PM
Sanja Losic is entered in the "Secret Agent" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/secret_agent/view_entries.php?challenger=18355)

Latest Update: Final Image: NYcity crime story
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sanja
06-26-2009, 04:30 PM
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story: NY city detective investigates Italian mafia

deftsword
06-27-2009, 08:55 PM
Nice work Sanja, I like the cold winter night.

sanja
06-28-2009, 01:48 AM
Thanks, I had a feeling that a cold winter night somehow helps in presenting secrecy and the streets just look even emptier and so I have a ‘playground’ just for my Hero (I don’t have a name yet, a got to find him a name) and his enemies.

Now I’m gathering reference photos and working my way from those high distant buildings toward those in the front. I’m sending some wip’s soon……

deftsword
06-28-2009, 11:04 AM
Keep-up the good work, I like it so far

sanja
06-29-2009, 03:40 PM
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this is detail of the background, I worked on the street, sidewalks, those distant buildings, I still have to add some lamp posts and work on the lighting in general....

sanja
07-02-2009, 12:10 AM
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the base of the image is now finished, now I need to work on some lights, some details to make it look more realistic (dirt on buildings, trash on the street, etc.), my secret agent character and that pretty blood red car...

Greenhouse
07-02-2009, 01:46 PM
Hi! :)
Very good work you have here! I like the mystiqe of the image and allso the good drawings. Look forward to see the progress.

wick3dsono
07-02-2009, 02:03 PM
wow. nice envi work that you have. keep it up. i'll watching on.

sanja
07-05-2009, 01:13 AM
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so here are the lights....next task: details to help tell the story, the car, the agent and the falling snow for the finish...

sanja
07-08-2009, 03:17 PM
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I've added some neon signs, posters, graffiti, bosses on the window... still nothing more on the agent itself, but that's coming soon....

sanja
07-08-2009, 03:30 PM
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so here are some details: political propaganda poster that promises to fight organized crime, right across the street there's some blood on the wall and a message that says "guerra per sempre", you can see better some background detail and on the window we see boss shaking hands with his "consigliere"...

critics and suggestions are welcome....

sanja
07-11-2009, 04:06 PM
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the car is almost finished, sill more work to be done on the agent...

sanja
07-12-2009, 08:59 PM
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worked on some reflections on the car...

sanja
07-13-2009, 06:29 PM
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done some work on the agent...darkened whole image... seems to me there's not much left to do...maybe I'll add some more details, some falling snow...

sanja
07-13-2009, 06:33 PM
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close up on the agent....it's not really finished, but I'm getting there....

sanja
07-22-2009, 11:06 PM
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I've added some new elements, worked on some details, there's light snow falling now... it's almost finished, I'll probably send my final image this weekend...

madbot
07-23-2009, 02:27 AM
Sanja, I think your image is fabulous. The detail and setting create such a terrific mood. My only concern is that I can't see the agent too well. Just a suggestion - is it possible to have a small light source directly behind him that would just hint at his silhouette from the left side of the pic? Maybe a small lamp on the side of the building? Otherwise I love the image.

sanja
07-23-2009, 01:27 PM
thank you for your comment, I know i should try to fix that, he is way too deep in the shadows...a small light source should take care of that but I don't want to expose him too much either...

Gaenhart
07-24-2009, 10:58 AM
I like the development of this image. You're thinking all the time, and it is certainly showing - the image is really coming together.

I look forward to seeing what you end up with.

walrus
07-24-2009, 01:15 PM
It's a really beautiful setting you've worked on. For a while, I was wondering if you just hadn't gotten around to adding the characters yet. Only after I scrolled up and saw earlier versions did I figure out where you placed the agent. So I completely agree with madbot. (Madbot's solution occurred to me as well. Or maybe you could use the red light from the neon sign to add a bit of a red rim light on his right side.) You need to strike a balance between having your agent hidden (like a real agent would be) and showing enough that the viewer can spot him easily... It's like the way in theatre people don't turn fully towards each other to talk to each other but instead do what's called "cheating" themselves to face the audience more than they would in "reality." It's this cheating that makes a compromise to make the scene more accessible to those watching. Likewise, I suggest you consider cheating the lighting so that the viewer can tell what's going on here even if it's less realistic. But it's your choice... either way, lovely landscape painting! :thumbsup:

Bakter
07-27-2009, 06:03 PM
Very atmospheric. I really like it.

Rupy
07-27-2009, 07:29 PM
Hey Sanja,

Looking good, maybe its on darker side, or at least the light isn't bouncing off the walls, but very nice setting,also love the snow, cheers

Rupy

sanja
07-27-2009, 10:22 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/18355/18355_1248733364_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/18355/18355_1248733364_medium.jpg)

so how about this...? I've lightened the whole image a little bit, and added that new light behind my agent, hope you can spot him better now. and thank you for the constructive critiques, I'm glad you like the image... :)

marianof83
07-28-2009, 12:04 AM
Hi! (sorry my bad english...)
very interesting image !
Good compositiond and idea!
The new image have more interest elements, , but (my opinion...) I would give more protagonism to the Agent its missed a little bit.
I like the Night and snow mix, and the winter atmosphere.

Cool image!:buttrock:

Of course you are welcome to comment my image..:thumbsup:
marianof83

humandesignlab
07-28-2009, 05:08 AM
Sanja,
your work is impresive! I'm a big fan of mafia movies and you managed to give the genre your style. congratulations!

sanja
07-28-2009, 12:31 PM
Thank you both for your comments and critiques! :) what I wanted was for the alley itself to be the main "storyteller" and for the agent to blend in the environment... the feeling behind the keywords of this challenge "secrecy", "espionage", "story" is what I hope is visible the most in this image, they are what guided me through the whole process.

This is my first sketch with the mafia/secret agent theme and I'm glad that someone who knows the genre better than me feels that I've hit the point with this one :)

I'll post some close ups of the details soon...

sanja
07-28-2009, 01:02 PM
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there's a new shop around the corner so the agent is now under some green/blue neon light from the back side...

sanja
07-28-2009, 01:07 PM
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detail 2: 1958 plymouth fury

sanja
07-28-2009, 01:21 PM
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this part of the image, with the hotel and the bar and that side alley and the top floor apartment window and that blue one right below it is the absolute favorite among my family and friends, I hope you like it too....there's something about that red-blue neon lights contrast, and the white of the snow and the dark of the night...

DarwinsMishap
07-28-2009, 02:38 PM
:thumbsup: I really, really enjoyed watching this progress. The contrasting colors, the depth of image and just the overall style is fantastic.

deftsword
07-28-2009, 07:22 PM
Hi there,
I like your image a lot, but even with the green light you add I think it is not enough,
try to put a much brighter source of light from between the two building.

sanja
07-29-2009, 01:23 AM
well thank you very much Jay, I am really glad you like it :)
@Michel: I'll try to fix that better, thanx for the comment!

sanja
07-29-2009, 02:13 PM
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My hero is here working against some high class criminals. He's a kind of a NYcity detective, private investigator, well ? a secret agent, and he is spying on an Italian mafia boss and his 'consigliere' above the "ristorante Sicilia" somewhere in the 'little Italy' part of New York. The model of the car on the street (that?s a 1958 Plymouth Fury, and I guess you know who that is :)) puts the story somewhere in the 1960s, a time when NYC had really had a problem with the Cosa Nostra but also a time when mafia faced relatively little opposition from law enforcement - that?s why we have a secret agent dealing with them here. I chose this to be a winter scene because it seemed to me that the streets just look even emptier that way, you know, it?s adding to the secrecy of the whole scene. There is a casino, a bar and a hotel down the street. There are some blood stains on the wall of the first building on the right, that is to say how dangerous the neighborhood is, and a message ?war for ever? in Italian. On the left we see one torn political propaganda poster that tried to announce a fight against organized crime. I didn?t know what to put on the license plate so I settled with ?CG-CH-24? :). I?ve put an alley cat on the roof of the second building on the right, newspaper stuck under car wheel and a squashed cigarette pack there on the street (there are two more packs, hidden on both sidewalks). The car clearly belongs to one of the bad guys because, you see, it?s parked in such an insolent way so that no other car can pass by and it?s even in the wrong direction, there?s a sign telling that it?s a one way street. All those details are there to make it look more real, to tell the story?

Among my inspirations were some comic books: Blacksad, Hellblazer, Spirit? well, any kind of hero wearing a white shirt, trench coat and occasionally a hat, a kind of ?philanderer who trifles with unsuspecting women?s hearts?. My secret agent is just a man, he?s not a superhero, not a 007, he?s got no fancy gadgets? I imagine he was hired to investigate something plain and simple at first sight, but some weird chain of events had led him up the food chain and hierarchy of the clan, through associates, soldiers and eventually to the big boss himself. Now he?s got himself in a really bad neighborhood but his strong will and character won?t let him drop the case, no matter how much he underestimated these bad guys in the first place. Maybe you can?t see exactly all of that here in this image but I hope it makes you feel that mood, that atmosphere.

Software I used is only Adobe Photoshop CS3, you saw through my wip entries how I gradually constructed my image out of reference photos and textures, and some details are just drawn... some 90-95% of reference photos are the ones of Belgrade, Serbia, the rest is free stuff I found on the net (www.cgtextures.com)

i3abden
07-29-2009, 06:39 PM
Looks awesome!! I like it alot, good luck :D.

sanja
07-29-2009, 07:02 PM
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Software: Photoshop

My hero is here working against some high class criminals. He's a kind of a NYcity detective, private investigator, well – a secret agent, and he is spying on an Italian mafia boss and his 'consigliere' above the "ristorante Sicilia" somewhere in the 'little Italy' part of New York. The model of the car on the street (that’s a 1958 Plymouth Fury, and I guess you know who that is :)) puts the story somewhere in the 1960s, a time when NYC had really had a problem with the Cosa Nostra but also a time when mafia faced relatively little opposition from law enforcement - that’s why we have a secret agent dealing with them here. I chose this to be a winter scene because it seemed to me that the streets just look even emptier that way, you know, it’s adding to the secrecy of the whole scene. There is a casino, a bar and a hotel down the street. There are some blood stains on the wall of the first building on the right, that is to say how dangerous the neighborhood is, and a message “war for ever” in Italian. On the left we see one torn political propaganda poster that tried to announce a fight against organized crime. I didn’t know what to put on the license plate so I settled with “CG-CH-24” :). I’ve put an alley cat on the roof of the second building on the right, newspaper stuck under car wheel and a squashed cigarette pack there on the street (there are two more packs, hidden on both sidewalks). The car clearly belongs to one of the bad guys because, you see, it’s parked in such an insolent way so that no other car can pass by and it’s even in the wrong direction, there’s a sign telling that it’s a one way street. All those details are there to make it look more real, to tell the story…

Among my inspirations were some comic books: Blacksad, Hellblazer, Spirit… well, any kind of hero wearing a white shirt, trench coat and occasionally a hat, a kind of “philanderer who trifles with unsuspecting women’s hearts”. My secret agent is just a man, he’s not a superhero, not a 007, he’s got no fancy gadgets… I imagine he was hired to investigate something plain and simple at first sight, but some weird chain of events had led him up the food chain and hierarchy of the clan, through associates, soldiers and eventually to the big boss himself. Now he’s got himself in a really bad neighborhood but his strong will and character won’t let him drop the case, no matter how much he underestimated these bad guys in the first place. Maybe you can’t see exactly all of that here in this image but I hope it makes you feel that mood, that atmosphere.

wick3dsono
07-30-2009, 01:48 AM
wow, final at last. nice piece. good luck!

MartinNielsen
07-31-2009, 08:42 PM
Nice final :) The snowy environment adds a good mood to this.

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