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platernity
06-15-2009, 05:14 PM
Nino Junghans is entered in the "Secret Agent" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/secret_agent/view_entries.php?challenger=17928)

Latest Update: Concept / pre-visualization: dark room concept : background
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245841335_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=5944926#post5944926)

platernity
06-15-2009, 05:22 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245082944_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245082944_medium.jpg)

first sketch of the project.

platernity
06-15-2009, 05:23 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245083022_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245083022_medium.jpg)

some time later...

platernity
06-15-2009, 05:25 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245083110_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245083110_medium.jpg)

and a little bit later...

This will be the global composition.

nemotoad
06-15-2009, 06:26 PM
cool view, I'm adding it to my lists of people to follow. I like the second view the best. Dunno why. I think the composition just works better without the heli.

Good luck

-CS

platernity
06-15-2009, 09:48 PM
But if there is no helicopter ... the super agent is just killing himself ...no ? :)

So i think i'll continue with the helicopter but thanks for the comment ^^

platernity
06-15-2009, 09:50 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245099049_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245099049_medium.jpg)

First colors ?

Not easy to begin this work... (i never drew buildings so it will be really difficult...)

picolo
06-15-2009, 10:16 PM
you should really learn perspectives or this one. ou could do it by hand or make 3d models. buildings are not really complicated objects since the are almost all basic cubes. it may be a good idea to make the perspective on paper since it is not always easy to make perspectives on tablet graphic
have a nice

platernity
06-16-2009, 09:11 AM
Sorry but the perspective is what i worked the most :)

I did all what you said but what i wanted is not a simple perspective i wanted a small camera effect (like a ball).

Some buildings don't give this effect but i'll retouching them.

I think i better need advices on how to paint them....

But thanks for the advice :)

platernity
06-16-2009, 10:34 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245144876_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245144876_medium.jpg)

So... for picolo, i post the work with the perspective lines. And Like you said i used an unrealistic perspective : they are four points of view.

But, i hope, it will give some movement in the action.

(i corrected some buildings, so you were right picolo :p )

ps : the fourth point of view is out of the image on the right.

platernity
06-16-2009, 08:13 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245179605_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245179605_medium.jpg)

Some colors...

I am not totaly in my work... i have my exams tomorrow :)

I think i'll do something new for the challenge. But only after my exams...and after some work on this picture.

platernity
06-17-2009, 12:28 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245238119_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245238119_medium.jpg)

after a long work... (Since the beginning i only used pencil, rubbers and layers, and i want to continue. That give this small cartoon effect)

But it's really a long work...

I'm not sure but i think i used more than 12 hours for it ...

I think i'll use a blur effect at the final step still.

platernity
06-17-2009, 12:59 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245239981_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245239981_medium.jpg)

Ouh... I retouched a little bit the perspective... You were right Picolo, so excuse me... maybe it's exam stress :)

But i'll don't justify me... So sorry !

Now i have more reasons to change drawing for the chalenge :)

nwiz25
06-17-2009, 01:11 PM
very interesting indeed! .. maybe to nail the perspective look even more ... check out Scott Robertson's dvd(s) .. really worth it!
or check this out ...

http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://cdn-write.demandstudios.com/upload//2000/500/20/0/22520.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ehow.com/how_2362865_draw-top-down-street.html&usg=__MemwCx1yKQJZOzWgWEWIrPOuILg=&h=737&w=1078&sz=135&hl=en&start=24&tbnid=YbTKhD17x6tQ4M:&tbnh=103&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddrawing%2Bbuildings%2Bin%2Bperspective%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D21

another one ..

http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/design/images/dt_g_dmi_tp8.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/design/graphics/drawingformalrev3.shtml&usg=__AIXK6bE01yeJIrcHVRbCrOQ2pc4=&h=230&w=470&sz=9&hl=en&start=44&tbnid=vroeZPbLtmvhfM:&tbnh=63&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddrawing%2Bbuildings%2Bin%2Bperspective%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D42

also, is the agent taking a first jump to grab the landing pad?

good luck mate! :thumbsup: will wait for the next update :P

platernity
06-17-2009, 01:28 PM
Wow !!! first, thanks for the comment (maybe you'r right and i have to learn perspective differently for CG, i like to draw abstract on paper normally so i never really had to use the perspective lines. I use photshop since maybe some months)

But Wow another time, i visited your portfolio and i seen my screen font picture i have since a really long time : dream dragon. One of the works who gived me envy to begin CG :)
amazing... Internet could be very small :)
You come in my favorites portfolios !

ps : i'll work the perspective on my next drawing for the chalenge :)
I can't do better on this one... like i said i used only pencil for it and some layers... So i can begin it a new time or just let it how it is. I think after 12h ...

platernity
06-17-2009, 02:08 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245244088_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245244088_medium.jpg)

So I have not the power to continue this one... So here it is !

I'll make another one with more pre-visualization work.

And i hope it will be better :)

ps : yes i know, what is near the camera must be detailed ^^
but i've not the power...

platernity
06-17-2009, 02:19 PM
here in bigger :

http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g49/334049/334049_1245244456_large.jpg

smallone3d
06-17-2009, 03:17 PM
I really like this. I like the "skewed" perspective. I love that the agent is holding on to his hat. That is great at such a dangerous jump (like Indie in Temple of Doom) nice touch.
I know it will change from here, but just wondering what color pallet u are heading for?

Looking good.

platernity
06-17-2009, 03:51 PM
the basic one :)

like i said it beffor, i'm a photoshop """noob""" :)

I've just begun to create my own brushes...

You see i have much to do :)

platernity
06-17-2009, 03:52 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245250343_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245250343_medium.jpg)

a new concept...

platernity
06-17-2009, 04:00 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245250832_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245250832_medium.jpg)

An other fast concept.

platernity
06-17-2009, 04:00 PM
I don't know what i want exactly for the next image i'll search a little time...

platernity
06-17-2009, 04:27 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245252468_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245252468_medium.jpg)

More concept. arm on the right to long but it's only a sketch :)

platernity
06-17-2009, 06:44 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245260678_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245260678_medium.jpg)

Some ideas for camera.

platernity
06-18-2009, 12:15 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245323701_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245323701_medium.jpg)

another concept i like this one, I think i'll doing this but it's not sure.

If I do it I'll begin it with a totaly dark font. It could be intersting.

platernity
06-18-2009, 01:30 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245328245_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245328245_medium.jpg)

another idea with more fun :)

platernity
06-18-2009, 07:33 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245350035_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245350035_medium.jpg)

First WIP for dark room. It's not easy for me because i don't smoke and i don't know smokers... so i had no model...

If you think the drawing is not right and that you smoke cigare, please send me a photo from you smoking in totaly dark :)

Ps : if you have a hat, because i love secret agents with trenshcode and a nice hat ._.

ps another time : don't think you have to ! i like my first drawing and i like it when it didn't looks exactly real :p

platernity
06-18-2009, 08:22 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245352975_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245352975_medium.jpg)

I add the lighter. Big job on the fire, i had no model. Don't like to have models.

platernity
06-19-2009, 11:05 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245405915_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245405915_medium.jpg)

Some more work on it. I think it's a little bit better no ?

platernity
06-19-2009, 11:48 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245408533_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245408533_medium.jpg)

I maked the wall... was not easy but i like it.

platernity
06-19-2009, 04:21 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245424882_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245424882_medium.jpg)

A test drawing for seeing what the guys in the backround could be.

platernity
06-19-2009, 10:01 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245445297_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245445297_medium.jpg)

I continued the work and give our agent a weapon... Is the light right ? The only model for the weapon i used are my souvenirs from godfather... Does it look good ? :p

platernity
06-20-2009, 11:07 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245492435_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245492435_medium.jpg)

For giving the viewer the feeling to be in the picture...

platernity
06-20-2009, 05:17 PM
It is me or i'm going to make the darkest cg work ever made ? :eek:

platernity
06-21-2009, 10:28 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245576485_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245576485_medium.jpg)

Maybe is this concept better ? what do you think ?

platernity
06-21-2009, 12:02 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245582126_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245582126_medium.jpg)

Visualization of the WIP.

platernity
06-21-2009, 06:33 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245605617_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245605617_medium.jpg)

some more work on the agent. Next chalenge will be adding some colors to this only light picture. But very few ones.

Hamlet-ID
06-21-2009, 06:46 PM
Really dark haha, it gives a personality to the work. The agent it is a little confuses but probably you already think in that. I will keep an eye for the next sketch. Good luck!

platernity
06-21-2009, 06:52 PM
Thanks :cool:

but what do you want to say by saying "confuses" ?

Is it the hand ? I don't like how i drawed it... the position is bad... no ?

Hamlet-ID
06-21-2009, 07:18 PM
In the day is difficult to see a dark composition, what I mean with "confuse" is that I can't see the agent's gesture, what he is wearing or where he is looking at. It is just my idea :P

platernity
06-21-2009, 09:29 PM
ok... so more light ?

DreamingOfAfrica
06-21-2009, 09:35 PM
Maybe if you bring in some more color, you could add more silhouette without really "adding light". Also the gun being held is WAY too small. That looks like a rifle, which would be about 2.5-3 feet long. I do like this design better than your first concept however.

Hamlet-ID
06-21-2009, 09:36 PM
I think the enough to define the character and keeping the dark ambient

platernity
06-22-2009, 11:27 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245666428_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245666428_medium.jpg)

The first colors !

platernity
06-22-2009, 12:04 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245668667_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245668667_medium.jpg)

And more work on colors !

platernity
06-22-2009, 06:36 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245692158_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245692158_medium.jpg)

I think the lights are better now and the weapon is a little bit better.

What do you think ?

Next work, the left of the wall concept.

platernity
06-22-2009, 07:45 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245696334_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245696334_medium.jpg)

So i want something really indiana jones with a small naz** like cave.

sorry I'm german and I banned this word !

I think I'll made another symbol on the flags.

platernity
06-23-2009, 08:49 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245786562_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245786562_medium.jpg)

ooooah ! yesterday i was watching my work, and something was,..., unrealistic.

I couldn't find what but i founded it : the hand of the agent. It was really wrong (no one seen it ?).

So i changed so much as possible. hope it's look better... If they are other defaults, please say it to me.

thanks !

ps : i changed some other little details.

platernity
06-24-2009, 12:02 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245841335_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/24/17928/17928_1245841335_medium.jpg)

first concept for a background. I have other ideas like an open background (more matte painting :) ), or a theatre...

What could be better ?

Derfel3D
06-25-2009, 08:02 PM
Ca ne fait pas très souterrain ..... et les deux derniers drapeaux nazis sont un peu claires. Et les personnages un peu petits par rapport a la pièce ^^

:D

platernity
06-26-2009, 10:50 AM
Alexandre : ceci est un concept et non un travail fini. Je ne sait même pas si je vais garder celui là. Les proportions sont fausse pour fautes de ne pas avoir travaillé dessus :)

Do you think the light of this concept is good for the light of the agents ? Something really dark but with enough light to see the naz** conference.

platernity
06-26-2009, 11:56 AM
Oo

I have a big problem !

One hour ago, all my images were normal. But now, they are all a little bit grey... Maybe it's my computer ? can someone help me ???

I never seen the image like that but maybe they don't changed for you ? i don't know what i can do ....

That's so strange... all my darkroom works are wrong... It isn't the work i did... Do you see the grey on the agent head or no ?

I see it since 5 minuts but it isn't what i made....

thx for helping me...

platernity
06-26-2009, 12:01 PM
I restarted my computer and the colors are normal again.... Don't know what happened but i want to know how you see my work....


and what is so strange is that only my dark room work changed...

DarwinsMishap
06-26-2009, 01:24 PM
I like the way your concept is going currently better than your previous versions; as for your computer issues...not sure what happened there? I'm glad it resolved itself, though!

As for the scene itself, I think an open arena would work if you are going for the Nazi era sort of style. Most of the larger, important gathering arenas were open (almost as if in direct defiance to the Alliance?) that I've seen in photographs. My adivce would be possibly find more for refenence use, as well as positions for your hand and both models in your painting.

I know this is still definitely in the beginning stage, but so far I'm liking the dark edge rather than spotlight/daylight style. It adds more mystery!

Barrios

platernity
06-26-2009, 10:01 PM
:argh:

I'm on an other pc and the image isn't like the image i did... I'll have to change my pc ?

Grrr i don't want to remake it all from the beginning. Normal that most of you don't like it xD

It' isn't what i made...

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

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