First after effects project... but one question...

[Chupa]

pretty nice stuff for your first thing, but imo it goes wayyy too fast, you should let it go slower. Or maybe let each ring cross at another timing.

About the keyframing part, i have no idea, you want to speed it up? I think you should just change the speed now and leave it like that, and you will have a fine looking animation.

gl :)

[Gremlin]

thanx for the comment...
yah, I agree... i kinda rushed it (I ran into problems, and had to restart like 3 or 4 times, so when it started doing what I wanted, I kinda rushed it) so the ring rotation wasnt properly set up, so they are very similar (I think 2 look identicle)

but, I want it to be slower, and then speed up and then the glow will increase, and it'll subsisde and it'll be a non-animated logo! :D (this was a test to see if I could get the effect, but I wanted to know about that keyframe thing before I start the final version!)

:lightbulb notice the CGNetworks logo looks like a static version of what I just made, see where I'm goin' with this? I'm going to make a CGTalk.com logo animation... and just submit it to them just incase ya know, they feel like they wanna use it!

[Chupa]

lol nice idea!!

Ok tbh its pretty hard for me to explain how to set keys, cus i dont know what kind of effects or layers you have used.


Anyways the keyframes work with effects and settings of a layer. Just put the timethingy on a frame at which you want the effect to start or stop. The press right mouse click on the effect and select ADD keyframe. to the same thing for a second key. and chage the settigns

jsut toy around with it, hope it works out

:)

[hessmart]

They have this thing in AE called ease in and ease out. It is how the interpolation of the keyframes work. If you right click on your keyframe, a box will come up with choice of how you want your keyframes to work. Ease out would be to start slow then excelerate to the speed you want. Ease in would be the opposite, etc. etc. Hope this helps...

Ken

[Chupa]

lol that looks much better, but the sound is like WTF had to turn my speakers down for a minute lolz

keep it @ that rate m8 and just do like hessmart advised. :)

[Gremlin]

LOL, yah, that sound was farked :surprised but the easy in/easy out is not quite what im looking for. what I want is like.... lets say I have 3 keyframes... now imagin' we're looking at it like on a graph.... i dont want there to be just straight lines connecting these 3 points on the graph, i want a flowing curve that passes through these 3 points... do you see what i mean? ease in/ease out does something different. I just makes the beginnings and ends of an animation not abrupt, but start and end smoothly....

[hessmart]

have you tried playing with the beizer curves of each keyframe? if you open the arrow of the attribute you animated (postion, scale, etc.) you should be able to control the keyframes and make it do whatever you want...

[Gremlin]

YES, BEZIER, thats the word i should've said in the beginning, thats exactly what i want. let me see if its exactly what I want. :D
Cheers,
:beer:

[webster]

Great look.

Could you give us a short review how You did it.
Did You use any 3d-Software ?

[Gremlin]

sure!
I didnt use any 3d software, its all after affects (and photoshop).
The tutorial can be found here (http://www.ayatoweb.com/ae_tips_e/ae11_e.html) (along with other awesome tutorials) but it was kinda hard for me to understand what they meant (it was translated from japanese) and they kinda didnt go into details... but i'll make my own little easier to understand tutorial here!

:lightbulb How to make your own ortbitor
1. We want to recreate this picture (http://www.ayatoweb.com/ae_tips_e/images/AE11_Step01_w_e.jpg) in photoshop. (open a new 640x640 and draw a 150x640 box across the whole thing and apply a ramp (on a new layer) to it (the most changes in the ramp the cooler it'll look (the one I used had about 6 changes in it.) then take a ramp that has black on one end, and is transparent on the other, and apply it to the ends, so it looks like it fades out (use the pic for reference of what i mean) then apply a polar coordinates fliter to it to get that circular look.)

OR

If you didn't understand what I meant, or your too lazy to do that... just copy and paste that picture into photoshop. (the reason you just can't use that picture for the tutorial is that you dont want that black background) so then create a layer mask on this and click the channels button (on the layers window) and goto the new mask you just created, and press paste again (this should paste the same image into it) now if you go back to your regular layer view, you'll see that your image now has no black background! YAY!! (however, if you have a layer under it that has a dark color on it, instead of those white/grey squares that mean its transparent) you'll see that the mask took away some of the image as well... so, select the layer that has the image on it (if you dont have a dark color background layer, it'll be the only layer) and edit the saturation/brightness of it. Crank the brightness up to the max, and it should look like it did in the beginning.

2. Now, open After Effects. import the photoshop file you made in step 1. Do not choose merged layers, choose the layer that has only the design on it (we dont want the black background, cause we're going to apply a glow to it.)

3. then, create 4 new copositions, I called them Orbitor-1 to Orbitor-4. And put the newly imported image into each of the these 4 new compositions. Now, open each composition, and apply a unique rotation to the image. (for the first, I applied no rotation, for the second I believe I did 40, for the third I did 80, and for the last I did 130....I think) now, keyframe those rotations at frame 0:00:00:00 then goto 0:00:05:00 (5 seconds, or whenever you want) and in compositions, keyframe those rotations again, but this time add 7 revolutions. (so, Orbitor-3's image will have 0 revolutions and 0º at 0:00:00:00 and 7 revolutions and 80º rotation at 0:00:05:00, etc...) now, thats the animation. Now we want these buggers to look like a sphere...

4. So, create a new composition called Orbitor-Shape and import all 4 of the previous compositions into it. then, to each layer Apple > Effect > Basic 3D, with their own unique settings (except "distance to image" should be set to 60 on all of them) and you just make the rings look like how you want them to look to create your spherical image.

5. now with our animation lookin' pretty cool, we gotta add the lense flare and some glow. so, create another new composition, I called mine Orbitor-final and import the Orbitor-shape composition into it. Select it, Apply effect > Stylize > glow. Use settings along the lines of:

Glow basic on: Color channels
Glow Threshhold: 40%
Glow Radius: 50%
Glow Intensity: 2
Composit Original: behind
Glow Operation: Add
Glow Colors: A&B colors
Color looping: A>B>A
Color loops: 1
Color phase: 0x + 0/0 deg
A & B midpoint: 50%
Color A: you choose what you want! (lighter)
Color A: you choose what you want! (darker)
Glow dimensions: Horizontal and Vertical

6. So now that we have that, we want to create a new "solid" layer under our Orbitor-Shape layer, background = black. Then apply a lense flare (Apply Effect > render > lens flare) and I choose the 3rd type of flare, center = 320,320, and 100% intensity. But the key is to change the flare's color to match by using Color Levels (not colorama, cause it'll mess with the black background too) or something of that nature. You'll figure out the settings for that, based on what color you chose for the glow.

AND THAT MY FRIENDS,
is the end of the tutorial. While its basically what is on the ayato website, mine is more thorough, but i give credit to where credit is due.... considering i'm in no place to start creating AE tutorials when this is my first project!! :D


Cheers,
:beer:

[Chupa]

nice m8 :)

[fig]

good stuff man, i actually recognized that from the tutorial, there's some killer stuff on his site. i'll have to go thru and give it a try :)

chris

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