Modeling Demolition Man: Simon Phoenix

[xsimike]

Bachelorette, I would probally if I where you try a google search, I have had good luck in the past on finding movie stills that way. Chances are good that someone will have clothes pic's and pic's of Wesley. Hope this helps you out.:shrug:

[Bachelorette]

1er jet: Guidlines in black, i try to have the general wesley shape
In yellow it's the shape of hairs .
Blue parts are only quick test to see if wrinkles are corrects.


http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/01.jpg

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/02.jpg

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/03.jpg

thanks xsimike, but i already tryed. No one knows a site only about demolition man? (can't find one, and don't think it doesn't exist)

[Deam]

Here You Go, a link with a lot of stills from the movie!

http://www.io.com/~gia/demolition/gallery.html

[santosLord]

You really have a sense of knowledge with using splines.. I remember you posted a street fighter model a couple months back... just wanted to say your style was really good.. and anatomically .. who cares.. it was the artistic style that carried the model the way it did..so all that was bringing this artist down... looks like he's back up... keep up the good work.. I will follow this thread so keep posting...

[Jjack]

une question que je me pose quand je voit ton travail , comment tu pose toute tes courbes ? , de tete ou tu travail sur une image 2d que tu accorde ?
toujours du bon boulot , vivement la suite

[munkY]

rent the dvd and play it on your comp, that way you can get all the screenshots you want

[Bachelorette]

Working on the abs.
I think the wrinkle add more relief and more life to the muscles...

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/04.jpg

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/05.jpg

[neversong]

hey, I love how you layout those outlines.

that's basically what I do in spline-modeling in max.

very cool!!!

:thumbsup:

[Hexodam]

looks extremely promising :D

[Bachelorette]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/06.jpg

[Phreakan3D]

looking great :) the beauty of this is once done all you have to do is custom accessories and hair etc. to make a different role wes has played, personally I think his best are Si Phoenix and Blade

[Cooper]

Hey you tried to get pics on Kaaza or anyother file p2p program? im sure you can get some good ones on there

[Bachelorette]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/07.jpg
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/08.jpg
It's longer as i do not work in symetry mode, but i think it's less perfect and more natural.

[Bachelorette]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/09.jpg
working on the pecs

[big]

wow you're very good IMO. But having studied many men in just underwear :surprised I think the abs are to symetrical left compared to right. I haven't seen Snipes without his shirt so maybe he looks like that, but here: Look at jay cutler for example extreme example but it shows my point. pic of jay (http://www.getbig.com/pics/california/calcoll2003/cutler03.jpg)

[Bachelorette]

it's not the wesley snipes body, i do it from various pics of bodybuilders.Thanks for your pics, it's funny he looks like doing a shit :).
Don't think what i do is anatomicaly correct because i do muscles one by one from various fotos where they are not contracted with the same position, and i do one with all them

[Bachelorette]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/10.jpg

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/11.jpg

[Gremlin]

gawd, your modeling technique is so gawd damn good.... jesus man, give me your skills now! :D

anywho, looks great, i'm sure this will be insanely awesome just like all your other words. lol, I want a detailed 2 hours video of your modeling technique! (p.s. I'd pay for it)

Cheers,
:beer:

[cgg]

dunno how you get a surface from those lines :eek: ,but it looks great:drool:

[LqdSnk]

anatomicaly correct or not, that looks sick! :applause:

[Soeren Nielsen]

looking slick, eager to see how you will approach the shoulder area modeling it that way.. Im guess it will be used for animation ?

[Lynx]

really awesome as expected. i recognized you by your way of modelling. :buttrock: guess you cant say this for everyone
btw. did you finish your vash model ? i'd really like to see it :love:

[xsimike]

:buttrock: Bachelorette , i must say that your modeling is progressing very nicely. any chance of a tut in the future on your modeling technique , seems to work very well. keep us all posted.
:thumbsup:

[prrr!]

amazing work man , your modelling style is great
maybe you can find some wesley reference in ¨blade¨ pages:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Obsidian]

This is absolutely stunning detail so far. I am very impressed with you technique. It makes me very curious about giving spline modeling another try... ;)

[colmite]

Man the detail of this model is incredible! Don't quite understand how you get all that detail out of (what seems to me) an outline with splines..

Do you have a tutorial somewhere on how you work or could you give a brief overview of what you are doing here?

Model looks great keep up the great work!

Also do you have a link to the finished models (of 2 girls if i remember correctly) that you did a month or 2 back? Those models were amazing with detail as well.

[TES]

:drool: :love: that´s everithing what can i say:)

[xtrm3d]

je me met a genoux et prie..
mon bachelorette qui ete aux cieux.. que ton non soi sanctifier ...

at pis si y en a encor un qui se plain et dit que cest pas asser realistic.. ou anatomique..
je luis pete ca geule !!!!!!!!!!!

continue comme ca mon amie .. tu m eclate !!! :applause: :buttrock:

[Bachelorette]

nan c moi qui dit ke c pas tt a fait anatomik, j'ai un peu arrengé par donner plus de volume et de style.
Au fait:
"continue comme ca mon amie"
faudrait mettre "amI"
on me par souvent au feminain a cause du pseudo certainement
La suite du truc en 3d demain

The next of the stuff tomorrow

[WillJohn]

huh?

[Bachelorette]

Like on the street fighter model, the back is the hardest spline cage. ill be hard to patch

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/12.jpg

[Peter Pan]

Looks great, and I'm actually interested - is there a tutorial on creating such kind of guidelines? Are those 2-point polys or something?

[JacquesD]

Great modeling start there Bachelorette... what about the head progress?... is it already finished?

Keep on.

[Mr.Black]

Looks awesome!!!

Peter Pan: Lightwave has a pen tool with which u can draw these lines with. They are simple splines only that u don't have to click them out but draw them as you do with a pen.

[TetsuoShima]

As other guy says before in this thread... have you thought about making a couple of modeling DVDs? ;)
I'm pretty sure a buncha peeps will buy em

btw.. awesome work dude :buttrock:

[Bachelorette]

The begining of the back. I try to be more precise than for the front:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bachelorette/cgtalk/Snipes/13.jpg

[edmundw]

Hi... If I'm not mistaken you're the one who modelled the Trigun character as well as Alex from Street Fighter... I havent get to see the finished work... You have any of them posted on the net?? Would love to see them... As usual, great modeling skills...


Edmund

[Bachelorette]

i alays delete threads when i begin a new work, sorry

[TetsuoShima]

how much time have you been modeling the front of the torso?

:thumbsup:

[IDownupI]

how does this WORK!!:eek:

[Bachelorette]

it took about 7 h to model the front. For the moment i'm about at 10 h of work

[DreamcastDC]

Very nice, where can I see your Vash the Stampede model and street fighter model, I cant seem to find them anywhere

[wedge]

*looks at lines*

*looks at torso model*

*looks at lines*

*looks at torso model*

i don't get it :shrug:

[minimi13]

Bachelorette you are one of my favorite modelers that are out there, i love your work ( the Streetfighter model, the girls, the 8 Lightwave characters...) and this is just as awesome as the others.

Can you please do me a favour and post a wireframe image of it ?

And about your technique (I think you don't want to talk about it, because it has been asked many times and you didn't reply to it, but i just have to try):

Are the lines you draw just for guiding you to get the right shape or what?
I just don't get how you create such details in your model from those lines.

Seems that this interests a lot of people here.

Hope you are willing to share some of you knowledge about modeling with us

THANK YOU VERY MUCH:love:

[Teyon]

Hey, this is, as all your stuff has been so far, excellent! Love the style and the back is turning out to be a bit more asymmetrical then the front, which I think is cool.

While I thought you did describe it loosely once before, maybe I can, as a Nurbs modeler, help folks understand a bit. Now, if I 'm worng, and you feel like you want too, go ahead and correct me.

There's 2 ways you could be using the curves to make your model. You could do it like I do, make a surface along a set of curves and then detail it based off your reference lines (the extra bits you draw) OR you could use the curves in a way Rhino can, which is called NetworkSrf. It's a function that takes curves which overlap to create a surface from, often taking care of the detail you normally have to model in. It takes longer to get right and isn't my favorite way to model but it works. Personally, I think you generate a simple surface and then edit it using your muscle sketches as a ref. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong...

Inspriing as always, keep it going.

[Bachelorette]

The lines are only to guide myself to the general shape. They represents the main contours and the main wrikles. I do the shape with 2point poly because i find it easier to add point (i use knife tool on 2pointpoly chain) and so control the number of point-poly of the model easily.
When the guidlines are finished, you can model with the technique you want. I use edge modeling with extender tool, or point modeling, using some points of the guidlines... my way to make the solid model has nothing special

[Gollum]

Wow, I'm impressed! Some more information about your way of modeling this character would be greatly appreciated, but as long as you keep posting your progress I'm sure we can all learn a thing or two along the way even without more information. Keep it up!
:applause:

[minimi13]

Bachelorette:

Thank you very much, for explaining me your technique and clearing up that the lines are just guides to get the general shape.

Thanks again.

Hope we see some updates soon, but from what I see, this needs to be plugged when it is finished.

Keep it going.

[Aego]

Hi Bachelorette :)

Cool works
Just, you are really obliged to stick 6 times the same image, hu, hu...:p
Fortunately that I have ADSL here....

:buttrock:

[nacire]

Great job on the model! I see how you drew out what would appear to be spline curves for the contours. I was just curious as to how your generating the surfaces inbetween the curves? I saw you posted that you use extend edge, is that like an edge extrude? Also, I was wondering what you mean by point poly? Thx, awesome work!:beer:

[AshodT]

pshhhhh.

monstrueuxxxxx!

:beer: continu comme ca l'amI:p

[Rivendale]

Wow, I'll be following this one with much interest! Good work so far.

Keep em coming...

[Yoshua]

To Bachellete

Great work once again. I love your style, you are also one of my favourite 3D Modellers and very inspiring to me. I'm actually learning Lightwave now cause that's what we use at school. I previously used 3D Studio Max, which I learnt by myself and have been using for almost 3 years. :thumbsup:

As I recall in your Model for every version of Lightwave thread, you are making a tutorial on your technique along with the release of Lightwave 8. I just thought I would let people know, in case they had not already. Hopefully this is correct.

I hope I don't sound stupid or anything, but I was wondering if someone could explain to me what exactly 2 point poly modelling is? Hopefully I can find some information about it, not even my teacher knows anything about it. :surprised

Keep up the great work and Good Luck.

Thanks

[Grugi]

nice

[Tobbe]

Awesome pice of work... I look forward folowing the progress...

:buttrock:

[xeno]

O my god, how could i have overlooked a thread from Bachelorette! Once again, awesome work! It is already looking very impressive! Ill be keeping a close eye on this one!

[Facial Deluxe]

Ba alors kessses tu fout ?
C'est la rentrée des classes ou quoi ?;)

[Bachelorette]

nan la rentrée c en octobre :)
La je fous rien c tout.

[TetsuoShima]

hey there's no updates. we wanna see more :P

[stantor]

Toujours aussi cool, ce que tu fait. Bonne continuation !
Au fait à quand un site à jours au niveau des images ;) ?

[Facial Deluxe]

Originally posted by Bachelorette
nan la rentrée c en octobre :)
La je fous rien c tout.
Revise ton LW, coef 4 cette année :)

[xtrm3d]

´have to bring this thread back to live !!
bachelorette ..please come back and give us an update !!!

et puis ... envois moi une bafouille par icq :-)

[StephD]

erf plus de news :sad:
keep on posting bachelorette !

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