N.G. Evangelion short

[DaKrunch]

today i started Eva00
the body is very similar to 01, so i started with the head.
C&C (and encouragements) are welcome!

[nerdfiles]

i think that this is a great idea, i am a big fan of the show and wished to start modeling eva00 myself.
i have not been sucessful in finding good quality reference.
what are you using for the details and overall schema?
good luck in it and i shall be watching this thread with interest.
you eva01 is very well modelled although as you say the textures needs a lot of work.
:)

[RmachucaA]

woha, gotta love Evangelion!
looking really good!

[Maxsmackage]

Crazy man! :buttrock: :beer:

[neversong]

I really love the top one.

I demand better texture! :) Your model just made me to hunger for the animation again.

I still remember the excitement of watching eva01.... eating the other guy. that was one of the most crazy scenes I've ever seen in animation.

Thought the end of eva made me mentally ill, eva is definately my favorite. :D

good job.

[holosynthetic]

the truth is that once you model the eva 00 body, just need to model the eva 02 head and your done cuase eva 00, 02-04 all have the same exact body..eva 01 is the only one with the different fins and chest plate

[DaKrunch]

"the truth is that once you model the eva 00 body, just need to model the eva 02 head and your done cuase eva 00, 02-04 all have the same exact body..eva 01 is the only one with the different fins and chest plate"

...almost totally true!
we are adding slight different details in order to animate the evas... e.g. unit 03 needs something different in order to be rigged and let it be trasformed into an angel...
lots of work !!! :wip: :wip:
here is a "neutral" body... almost ready.
Details will be later added on Maya

http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/Renders/eva00_body02.jpg

p.s. anybody could tell me something about eva 04? i saw a plastic model in a shop but i had never seen it before! is it on another series or movie? tnx!

[Asgar]

OOOhhh!Good job DK!Your evas are really great!!I'm still working on 03 head(I started yesterday)!I'll up also some image soon!!
Good Work!
Asgar

[holosynthetic]

eva 04 was in the series, not visually shown, but talked about, it was the eva where the s2 engine blew up in North america, therefore making the usa not to happy with keeping eva 03 in nevada, so they sent eva 03 to japan for care

[Asgar]

Eila!!!Here's what i made today!Just in embrional phase!!(the front prop aren't right yet)...my bastard 03!!!;)

[Bdstudios]

damn that is sweet!! i love evangelion!! but i dont like the texture at all on the first one, it doesnt do your awesome models justice

[DaKrunch]

hey I told not to look at the texturing it has to be done from scratch!
:shrug:
so... today i started the interior of the eva00 head
c u tomorrow!!

[holosynthetic]

and where exactly do you find reference for the inside of the head for eva 00? which eva art book do you own exactly?. not once have i seen pics of eva 00 without a helmet

[Asgar]

Another little update....more to come soon!!!

[unicron]

Wow, awesome work!

I've got about half of the series, and I'm working on getting the other half. I've seen it all and the two movies... very cool. I think your models are coming along great! Can't wait for more detailed textures!



unicron

[DaKrunch]

Originally posted by holosynthetic
and where exactly do you find reference for the inside of the head for eva 00? which eva art book do you own exactly?. not once have i seen pics of eva 00 without a helmet


i do have an artbook, but the interior is for a big part my fantasy... the inspiration comes from the weta sketch... the rest is mine ;)


Morfo is in! he'll work on the environments

[Hexodam]

sweetness :D

[VelvetDragon]

Can't wait to see these models fight together against Angels !!!

Please! Never give up :)

[R-SiN]

Whoa! Thats crazy!:eek:

[blasphemy3_d]

Guys your models look really awesome. PLease keep posting!!!!



:buttrock:

[DaKrunch]

just ask JJ! here are some updates on the 00 head!

[DaKrunch]

http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/Renders/eva00_head08.jpg

whoa!
i need some sleep!

and a drink :beer:

good night everybody!

[Asgar]

Thaks all for the replies!Body and head in progress yet!Here's a little up!!!!!!!Good details DK!I like it very much!!!!
Here's mine eva 03!!:buttrock: :beer:

[Evil Pumpkin]

Wow Guys!!! those are really amazing!!!Why not modeling the angels too?? and the eva accessory?? like the prog knife, the longinus lance...and the electricity plug!!!I ve some interesting scans if u want...(nerv trucks, elicopters and airplanes, Guns,etc...) let me know!!!

[blasphemy3_d]

The head looks great!!

Very detailed!!

Can´t wait to see them in action! :beer: :thumbsup:

[Angel O'Death]

omg! u guys are awesome! and they look very accurate. i can't wait to see them all textured and animated. and omg, some really cool poses for wallpaper of 01 would be heaven :drool:

[PhilWesson]

the eva04 looked just like the others (head/bodytype) with the obvious exception of unit 1, it was silver and red. i had a model of it, (and its never seen in the series), but it got smashed by my 10 yr old brother 'cus he needed a bad guy to fight his megazord....
this all happened when i was away at school.
curse you power rangers, curse you...

[Angel O'Death]

You can find plenty of pictures of the bandai models here. they should prove usefull for referance, and they have the 04 as well :)

http://www.ehobbyland.com/EVA/EVA.html

[DaKrunch]

here is the work of tonight!
puff. pant...

Blasphemy: Thanks man you know how much your support is appreciated here!

David, Angel o'Death: wow... now i know how much i was ignorant! hehe thanks people for help and support

ciao!

[Rei Ayanami]

They are the best I have seen, just wait till i do my set (cell shaded). are you doing the mass production eva's too?

[unicron]

Crap man... that entry plug area is excellent! I can' wait to see the new textures.
:beer:

[PhilWesson]

this is seriously the best eva model i've seen. keep posting!

[unicron]

Hey guys,

I was just looking through again, and man is this stuff awesome.

The legs have something that looks odd to me. It could just be the perspective view, but I want to get a better look before I make a fool out of myself. Could you post some front and side shots of the legs and feet?

Thanks:D

[DaKrunch]

i'm currently working right on the legs... i'll get them posted as soon as possible ;)

btw... any ideas/tutorials to make a cool cell shader on Maya? I'm looking for inspiration :)

[Mormegil]

try those
http://www.toonshade.com/
http://www.noboundrees.com/yinako/tut/nprs/nprstut.html

[unicron]

Hey Da Krunch,

Well, if you're working on the legs, you probably will be working on the stuff I thought I saw... looking forward to seeing it!:D

[DaKrunch]

unicron:
you tell me ;)
here are the upper legs
:wip:
I'm working... waiting for some updates from my companions!

Mormegil: tnx!

[unicron]

The thighs look great man! Nice detail work on them too.

Well, the thighs weren't really the part of the legs that bothered me... When I look at the full body shot of the eva, I think that the proportions of the thigh to the shin is backwards: meaning that the thigh should be longer than the shin. I've got a few eva toys and the limbs have proportions that are pretty close to that of humans (it's basically the torso that deviates from human shape).

I would just move the knee area down the leg some to fix this... you might have to do a little repair work on the thigh to get the shape corrected, but it wouldn't be too far off.

Also, the feet look like they got squashed to me...:shrug:

well, Keep up the good work:thumbsup:

[Shaykai]

Wow fantastic work! I almost wish you had taken a more realistic approach to texturing the eva, because the first picture you posted of the un-textured eva was so fantastic, i could totally see that in a realistic setting. Do you plan on toon shading this? or not? Whens the release date? How long is the short going to be? Is it an original story of yours?

Shaykai

[DaKrunch]

thanks for comments!

unicron: i know the proportions aren't perfectly human and as for the legs... you're right! i gave some adjustments... anyway i didn't make proportions totally human because they are not in the anime (plastic models are slightly different) and in the artbook
and as for the feet... i'm not sure i understood what you mean, but i'll give some adjustments next days.
here is the (few) work of today.
tomorrow i'll remake from scratch the shoulders in order to make them animatable.

Shaykai: i'd really have loved to make them realistic but it's rather hard, and considering my personal skills in texturing i'd have needed a looooot of time where a professional would have needed much less. - with better results :(. Same goes for the environments. The release date is a big "?" but we'll try to finish a trailed in the summer.
Consider we all work AND study!

as for the story it's not complete yet... but i'll give you a hint: "What if...?"
hehe

cya!

[DaKrunch]

woops... here are the legs

[unicron]

The legs look great Da Krunch!

I think you've done a good job on the proportions of the rest of the body... I was just saying that the limbs should be held closer to human proportions to help you to better understand why I thought the legs were off;)

As for the feet, the tops of the feet look flat. There is that ankle guard peice that covers over the foot, but it looks like you've got it attached to the foot as part of it. The eva "shoe" needs to be curved more on the top of the foot so that they don't look like they got smashed by someting.

I attached an image that I hope will help... If you look at the foot of unit 01 (purple), you can see how the top of the foot is curved. If you look at either 00 (blue) or 02 (red) you can see that the overall shape of the foot underneath the ankle guard is triangular from the side. Another way to visualize it may be to take a look at your foot inside your shoe from the front and side and take note of the contours to try and use them in your model. :D

Hope that helps

[Wako]

if u need eva 02, i have this one if u want..

http://www.salegosse.com/wako/evarnd.htm

:rolleyes:

[DaKrunch]

wow... i remember that model, and I even used it for inspiration before i started. :beer:
ghaaaaaaa it's 6 o clock and we are very tired


here is the shoulder
cya

[Asgar]

Eiii!!Dk your shoulder are very CooL!!Here's my head(near to be finished)!!:beer: :buttrock:
Asgar(too tired):surprised

[.morfo.]

Hola, i'm the third children of Evangelion Short, came back from a no connection period :blush:
this is one piece of a NERV's elevator. still wip :wip:

Now i'm in, keep up Da Krunch and Asgar!

[ninja noodle]

impressive work!!!! can't wait to see more!!!! :D
:cool: :beer:

[cgtalkmember]

Wow:drool: is all i can say and is this character going to be on HALO 2 lol i wish lol, so when is the animation coming out?:D

[DreamcastDC]

Very nice 3d modeling

[Mumle]

I really like your models, like ALOT!
But I think that only Unit 01 was able to open its mouth? I don't remember seeing any of the other doing it (beside MP).

[Shaykai]

I think that since they were all living creatures they could all open their mouths.

Shaykai

[Mumle]

***SPOILER***
I wouldn't say they are living.... They are all empty vessels that need a childs soul to function, of what i can remember!
And they need power, exept those with the S2 unit!

And i'm pretty sure that Unit 00 don't have an opening for its mouth.

[unicron]

Well, just because the unit 00 didn't open it's mouth in the series doesn't mean it doesn't have one. I think the mouth is cool, but the 00's face should be a bit longer I think.

:beer:

[Asgar]

Thanks for the comments!Here's the embrional phase of a nerv lab part!:wip:
(Sorry for my bad English)

[unicron]

Man, you guys are going all out aren't you? Are you working on an angel of your own design as well, or sticking with one from the series... or someting else?

keep up the good work:D

[The Cross]

Originally posted by Mumle
***SPOILER***
I wouldn't say they are living.... They are all empty vessels that need a childs soul to function, of what i can remember!
And they need power, exept those with the S2 unit!

And i'm pretty sure that Unit 00 don't have an opening for its mouth.

The Eva's are alive, They are cloned from an Angel don't forget, and even though they substain alot of damage (Like getting their arm riped off) All N.E.R.v. has to do is bandage it up and it'll heal on it's own. The blood circulates.
Shingi's Eva had his mothers soul within it, which made the bond with Unit 1 and Shingi a great anamoly. Hence the way his Eva always came to life, or moved whenever Shingi had a close shave with death.

As for the amount of electricity and short time peroid they have to run off of the battary.

The Eva as it is inslaved in it's cyborg implanted constraingts (With a cleaverly designed cockpit too) Is nothing less than an Angel. Super strong (And probably pumped with some kind of steriods from N.E.R.v.) Would need alot of juice for that super boost.


And as for you Da Krunch, You're model's are "TOO GOOD TO BE CELL SHADED". You even saying that your going to Cell shade these Godly detailed Eva's is Harrassment. If Cell shading is all you can afford to do then we'll understand. But damnnn.... can't you hear the cries of the people ? How promising these models are to a vast nation of Evangelion entheusiest ?...They want to see them in potato sack burned up abused spandex with earth stains, and rubber boots with boulders stuck inbetween the grooves of the souls. And make some blend shapes for some organic flex for when they breath like wild beasts when their cutting loose.

These of coarse are only suggestions. And at the same time a bigger part of me dares you to kick this one even further than you intended. Krunch.

[Black Jesus]

yeah... i agree with the cross about the shading... these models are really really great and looking at the renders on the first page of this thread... and i really hate to say it... but the colored renders you have ruin the models... you should definately go with a more realistic texturing for these models. cell shading won't do them justice AT ALL.

[squintik]

Amazing !!! Excellent modeling !
Keep up the good work :applause:

[Rotamus]

wow they look kool keep it up fellas

[Mumle]

Originally posted by unicron
Well, just because the unit 00 didn't open it's mouth in the series doesn't mean it doesn't have one. I think the mouth is cool, but the 00's face should be a bit longer I think.

:beer:

Well, have just checked, and unit 00 and 02 dosn't seem to have mouths! And i'm not the only one saying it!
My anime-friends says the same..

[unicron]

Don't think that I'm trying to start an argument here mumle, but the armor that is covering the organic eva bodies probably covers their mouths. Even though all the eva's are each distinctly different in the series, they are all basically the same since they are cloned from an angel like The Cross said earlier in this thread. It seems logical to me that 00 and 02 would have a mouth, and (to me) their designs still look like the armor is covering over a jaw area on the head.:shrug:

It really doesn't matter if they indeed have a mouth or not; the character designs still rock, and these guys are doing a great job recreating them in 3D.

rock on guys:buttrock:

[Sinkywinky]

EVA-02 has a mouth, but you can only see it after <Bad things happen to it> in end of evangelion.

http://www.sinkywinky.plus.com/img/eva02.jpg

And those models are fantastic. :)

[unicron]

thanks sinkywinky; man that looks like it hurts...:argh:

[Mumle]

I know the eva's have a mouth, but unit 00 dosen't have one in its armor/restraints.
And if it should be true to the anime, it shouldn't be in the model.. But thats just my humble opinion!

Btw, i'm really impressed by the models.

[The Cross]

Originally posted by Sinkywinky
EVA-02 has a mouth, but you can only see it after <Bad things happen to it> in end of evangelion.

http://www.sinkywinky.plus.com/img/eva02.jpg

And those models are fantastic. :)

If you ask me, just before the Unit 02 got torn apart, it put up the best fighting action sequance in the entire series.

[DaKrunch]

thanks for the support everybody!

in its normal pose my model doesn't seem to have a mouth (more or less as in the anime series) but i got inspired by a sketch from weta and then drew my own.... so my model is a mixture between the anime and this head:

p.s. i suppose this is the full head of eva00 but then i reworked it so that it's only the interior

I'm working!!!!:wip:

[Palombasso]

What happened to this thread? the project was coming along very nice....
Are you people just short of time or have abandoned the project at all??

[DaKrunch]

no way i don't mean to give up very easily.
But i've just come back from holidays and am currently working on the character setup...
i' relatively new in character setup in maya so this requires a little more time than in Max ;)
:wip:
i'm working!!

[DaKrunch]

i'm back!
today i'll post this simple pose...
i'm starting to like maya at last!

(at least for rigging :) )

Eva00 is in!
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/Renders/eva00_pose_00.jpg

[unicron]

NICE!!!:buttrock:

I'm patiently awaiting the others.

[AshodT]

hahahaha!!!!! simply awesome,you guys rock!!!

i cant wait to see more. you just gave me the inspiration to model an eva myself!

one of my favourite mangas ever!!

keep going baby,yeah!! :beer:

[ninja noodle]

hey it's looking really good!!! what are the textures like?? really looking forward to the finished work!!! keep it up!!! :beer:

[DaKrunch]

here is eva03!
while posing it i discovered some problems on the shoulder setup...
gha!
:cry:
more rigging!!!
ciaoz!
hasta luegoz!
byez!
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/Renders/eva03_pose00.jpg

[Rei Ayanami]

Whoa, time to get a little fanboyish (girlish) that is lookin dang amazin! i really cant wait to see these babies in action! you better have a good storyline. ^_^

[Silver Sliver]

Amazing work as ever! Hei, what's going on with Asgar? I haven't seen him in a while
Keep up the good work

[Loozack]

it looks like someone saying "bye" to his girlfriend... just kidding :) great work :eek: :beer:

[DaKrunch]

tnx people!
Asgar is on holiday in France, Corsica :)

here is the longinus lance!

[DaKrunch]

http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/Renders/eva01_pose_00.jpg


and this is the last one!
now on to accessories and then to --- shading
groan...

[Silver Sliver]

They rocks too much guys. I'm sure they'll bag for hiring you :applause:

[DaKrunch]

hey i'm back!

alone :(

i managed to work out some things. I promise i'll try to work more on this project (aaaah work and university are killing me)

and my real first animation - apart of walk loops ^_^


some buildings: (kind help of Fanny)
scratch layout 3d (http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Videos/eva01_scratch00.avi)

[_The_Paladin_]

wow dude, wow

[Wako]

wow.. great... humm.. i'm curious to know.. how many faces for each model?

[urgaffel]

I wasn't expecting much when I opened this topic, but you've got some really cool models going here. Great work! It will be interesting to see how the finished short will look.

Only one crit on the animation clip, and that's the knife, it should flip out faster. That's the only thing I can think of right now that stands out, and I have to crit something don't I :)

I'll be following this one for sure.

[DaKrunch]

wow thanks!
i'll work on the knife too :) i was thinking about substituting that knife with tho other model (cutter like)

wako: 00 prototype goes around 160k poly (triangles); 01 test type has a few less...

ghaz!

[AndyH]

Love the EVA series - some of the best evangelion models ive seen yet!
One thing though - The Armor plating looks a little smooth at the mo.
One of the things that makes unit 01's design so good is that theres a mixture of organic (smooth) and mechanical (hard) shapes going on. - maybe you should add an extra row of edges to tighten up the subdivision on the edges and panel lines?
I joined the thread pretty late, so i presume the modelling is already completed, and any attempt to alter the geometry would be a pain in the arse.....
Keep it up though - ill keep an eye on this one!

[DaKrunch]

you are totally right. The matter is that the smoothing algorythm of Maya seems slightly different with Max's NURMS. Normals are linked to UV so that shapes look more rounded than they really are.
The solution i found was to turn off "smooth UVs" and re-map textures on the smoothed surface. I'll post an example asap.

[maxFX]

A world modeller joined!

Hi ppl, after a talk with da krunch i decided to start model for the project, ( Already started tokyo-3 buildings Wait 1-2 days to post wip ).

If you know any good references of tokyo or blueprints in High quality, please post links here. Same goes for all locations of Evangelion.

[DaKrunch]

Welcome MaxFX! Sure you'll be able to make something cool in here!

i got some refs of the city here...
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/1.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/2.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/3.jpg

[DaKrunch]

some more here...
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/4.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/5.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/6.jpg

[DaKrunch]

and the last three here...
hopefully they'll be useful.
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/7.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/8.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/dakrunch/Images/EvaRefs/9.jpg


hey guys you might think i'm a bit unconstant about this project...

you're almost right.
The matter is that
1) all this time i was left alone with the project... the university and my job.
2) I'm no animator and my efforts to get some cool shots are quite frustrating... especially since i'm trying to achieve a fair level of quality
3) I'm improving other skills (wannabe a R&D engineer)


so... my new target isn't a short anymore but some high quality still images.
MaxFX suggested we could make something like a comic, using our old storyboard...
what do you people think?

[Hellwolve]

I'm making a comic myself (highly unprofesional ;)) at the moment, so you've got my vote :)

[stezzy]

hi man , you have a nice eva detail on the head, that cool

[NicoDN]

Good continuation for this project, it's great !!!
You have my encouragement, waiting for more updates now !

[Rei Ayanami]

Hey Da Krunch.

these models have turned out allright, ive been watching from the begining(ish).

I can imagine the pain of not being able to animate them very well, esp after the work you put into the models, but you could hire somone else to animate them, there are thousands of Eva fans out there (me too!) and some of them have to be great animators as you are a great modeler.

Who's sketches of Tokyo-03 are they, not yours?!

Do you have wires of the 'final' versions of each ones, they might end up being hell to animate!

[DaKrunch]

Hey Rei! I remember you very clearly!
thanks 4 support!
;)
well the matter is... i can't afford hiring any pro animators (remember i'm a student?). And my idea is to improve my usage of Renderman for some stills.

MaxFX, and others as him, volunteered to cooperate, but one thing is to work in distance with other modellers, another thing is cooperate with animators...

as for the wires... the evas are quite well rigged both in Maya and Max so it's rather easy to move them (i did it after all!)

and the sketches all come from the Eva artbook (bought in Madrid)

cya!

[bleeper]

Wow, that's a lot better then the eva I've been working on.
Are you going to the Mass Production Evas too?

[ArtisticVisions]

Very, very cool models; can't wait to see more of it.
Is this project only feature the Evas or does it also include the human characters (Shinji, Rei, Asuka, etc.)? Is it a new story or one based from the show?

[hamsterizer]

This really is an amazing project! You EVAs almost look more powerful than the ones in the anime!

Any recent updates to the project?

[qonstruk]

hey yoz~ great models! can you post some reference photos tt u have used?

[THECLYKE]

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL
:thumbsup:

[DaKrunch]

Thanks... it's amazing that more than one year later i still get such feedback :)

I started the project when i was a computer science student, dreaming of weta and its evangelion movie.

I had to give up because i am left alone and i kinda suck in animating & surfacing :(

but now i'm a shader writer in animal logic... maybe i'm still on time to work on the movie... i still don't believe it :P

thanks all

[JonnyBlaze]

Da Krunch, your stuff is definately Da Shizzle!!! Don't know where I've been that I'm just now coming across this plethora af Evangelion shweetness! Exccelent work my friend. Sorry to here that your not going to do a short ;( I too am a huge Eva freak! If you'd like feel free to check my 01 and gimme some tips ;)

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=218152

I've been getting hung up with stuff, but one day I plan to finish this puppy and I actually had started storyboarding a music video to Imma Bang by DMX.
Also been workin on my Evangelion Height Inquisition because 40m - 200m is just not an exceptable ;)

Feel free to contact me if anyone needs some reference and stuff cause I do have a lot of info. I also started modeling the Tactics Command Room, and maybe you might wanna take it for a test drive in your animation. I'd love to help in anyway and personally, there's no excuse!!! WE WANT A SHORT!!! ;)
Just ribbin ya man, but seriously if you really wanna go all they way I'm sure there's a few of us that would be delighted to try to lend some assistance.

Your work is outstanding and I tip protective cranial to you. *slobbering uncontrollably* which may not ,mean much to those who know me, this is a usual accurance ;)P

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