Cinema4D r8.2

[danb]

that sounds kinda strange. seems to early for a release update. i wonder what they would update so soon. hmmmm....always like updates though. more goodies for my sweet tooth.

[LucentDreams]

only ones who can really comment are maxon. THere was another post about this just a week ago, no answers there don't know why it'd be any different this week

[brammelo]

Wait for siggraph and you'll know :)

Cheers,
BaRa

[borysj]

I forget write in my post, that probably on 80%, r8.2 will be released on siggraph

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by danb
that sounds kinda strange. seems to early for a release update. i wonder what they would update so soon. hmmmm....always like updates though. more goodies for my sweet tooth.

All things considered, it is not exactly a farfetched expecation,
since Maxon has gotten some updates out there pretty quickly in
the past.

All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be disappointed if they don't, but
if they do it will be a mild but pleasant surprise.
:beer:

[Srek]

Originally posted by borysj
Hi

I've heard from maxon, that new release of cinema (8.2) will be available do free download for all, in last weeks of this summer, or earlier. Has anybody know something about that ??,

Marek
Polist site about Cinema4D
http://www.c4d-pl.org

Hi,
nice rumor you planted there :)

Say again what was that with Alias porting Maya to Amiga? ;)

Cheers
Srek

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by Srek
Hi,
nice rumor you planted there :)

Say again what was that with Alias porting Maya to Amiga? ;)


Amiga? Whoa, wait the last I heard, they were porting it to that
new Sony CLIE that was recently announced. :applause:

[LucentDreams]

C4D R47 and 10/1000ths will be released FeaturingIts own MAC G29 with mental implant rather then a screen.

As for alias, I dont know about clie, but who know they may start pushing the new Tablet PC's, I mean they released a new sketching app specifically for the tablet PC why not a special version of maya? Maybe one that looks nice and doesn't crash :)

[imashination]

So when do we get C4D for palm OS then?

;-)

[milqman]

Hey, 3d on a portable pocket device has already been done ;)

Blender, was ported to Windows CE devices and didn't run too shabbily.

Quite impressive :)

[pit]

So when do we get C4D for palm OS then?

Not likely - but a version for the Ipod will follow soon after the Apple takeover announcement at Siggraph.

[Ibox]

Not likely - but a version for the Ipod will follow soon after the Apple takeover announcement at Siggraph.

:scream: :scream: :scream:

[imashination]

Maxon takes over Apple? ;-)

[Siddhy]

i don't care for 8.2 (too much :D). if only they could bring a patch to stop those random freezes for some seconds.

[pit]

Maxon takes over Apple?

:)

Yup - they consider buying Pixar as well, but Maxon hasn´t let anything slip on that yet. It might just be a rumor! ;)

:beer:

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by pit
:)

Yup - they consider buying Pixar as well, but Maxon hasn´t let anything slip on that yet. It might just be a rumor! ;)

:beer:


That's true, Maxon will announce buying Pixar and Apple at Siggy, we'll have an integrated Prman version which will be shown there. Maxon will give a G5 to every new customer as a gift (23" display included) :scream:

[fretshredder]

Yikes

...if only... :beer:

/gz

[smoke]

So 8.2 is not going to be the release that runs on the new Playstation 2 handheld?? Darnit.
I thought Maxon was buying Alias|Wavefront and Newtek?

[imashination]

Originally posted by Siddhy
i don't care for 8.2 (too much :D). if only they could bring a patch to stop those random freezes for some seconds.

Surely a point release would fix exactly that sort of problem?

[Siddhy]

since i'm not the only one and since it has been told that they're working on it i'm looking forward to it, so yes :)

[StefanB]

Surely a point release would fix exactly that sort of problem?

Noooooo, can you see any reason for this?:rolleyes:
Hmmm, I knows from over 15 users (I also) with the "freezing problem".
I think it's ok. Why not have freezes every 3-5 minutes? It's really funny to work with C4D 8.1. You'll never know if C4D crashes or another funny thing will happen. :annoyed:

Srek told us on C4D-Treff that the problem is fixed with the next update. ;)

[Ibox]

You hear of a few with every app, who have problems with this or that... but.. out of the whole, this few is not so bad at all, and... I believe that it is as much the users setup as is the software... not intentional on the few users in this category, but, non the less...

I had an original 266 celeron, which would not run 8.1 without freezing, yet now I have a Celeron 400 and it never freezes...

same os, ram, vcard and hard drive... so? it's in the mobo chipset somewhere' perhaps eh? or not... I dunno, but hey... this is the reality as I have found... hope this is of some help, directional perhaps... :)

[Siddhy]

maybe its some localization issue. there are in fact more than 15 people from germany who own different pc's and different os's (afaik no macs were mentioned). plus srek mentioned this would be addressed in a further release so i think this is not one of those random problems some people get in every piece of software. and its highly reproduceable and annoying.

cheers siddhy

[StefanB]

You hear of a few with every app, who have problems with this or that...
But this is different. :shame:

but.. out of the whole, this few is not so bad at all, and... I believe that it is as much the users setup as is the software...
Look, there are more than 15 users(frequently posters on C4DTreff.de), we had the same problem after the update from
8.012 to 8.1. But I think you are right. These users are not able to setup an OS and they did something wrong with the update. :p

Hehe,lets wait for 8.2 and see whats happen.:beer:

[JIII]

personally I hope for more from 8.2 than a few bug fixes for the PC 6 tenths of the C4D world.

we mac using 40% need something too!!!!

[Neoklassik]

My main dread is that they don't break whatever is working on the mac. Has anyone mentioned how stable Cinema is on the mac?? j/k!!!!

Thank you Maxon!!
:applause:

[bek]

cinema in mac is like the perfect match the only problem is the speed cinema 8.1 is 50% faster in a pc!!!


i got i nice mac g4 800hz 1.2gram 120ghd soft: osx10.2


but i am going to buy a pc dual! xeon!!! only for cinema and maya so i can render up faster!!!!!!!11

and i can tell u i use cinema and maya like 12 hours at day working on broadcasting for tv and man cinema is the best of the best!!

nice maxon nice maxon!!!

[kromekat]

{ i got i nice mac g4 800hz 1.2gram 120ghd soft: osx10.2
...
but i am going to buy a pc dual! xeon!!! only for cinema and maya so i can render up faster!!!!!!!11}

You'd be better with a Mac G5, your Xeon will be starting to render shadow mpas by the time the new mac has got half way through the final render! - then you'd have stability, speed and a real OS to run Cinema on! :)

Why all the scepticism over a minor .1 update of Cinema guys!? ;)

[imashination]

6 posts, does that make him a baby troll?

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by imashination
6 posts, does that make him a baby troll?


babies grow quickly nowadays... :rolleyes:

[kromekat]

a baby troll!?

Don't be daft kids, I havent done any trolling in this thread!!? - are you just over sensitive?

Please highlight clearly the part of my simple statement and question that upset you.

:)

Cheers

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by kromekat
a baby troll!?

Don't be daft kids, I havent done any trolling in this thread!!? - are you just over sensitive?

Please highlight clearly the part of my simple statement and question that upset you.

:)

Cheers


Every immature post about OS battles, PC-Mac battles, software battles and stuff like that is considered lame and potentially dangerous.

[kromekat]

Lol! :rolleyes:

Every immature post about OS battles, PC-Mac battles, software battles and stuff like that is considered lame and potentially dangerous.
__________________
PryingOpenMyThirdEye

Immature?? - how childish to get upset about it!

No battles, I was responding to a post where someone said they were getting a Xeon PC because of it's speed over a Mac G4 800 - I was just advising that he might consider a Mac G5 instead (mimimum 1.6Ghz to 2x 2Ghz and 64bit architecture) as it is faster than the fastest Xeon or Pentium 4 according to current benchmarks!

Dangerous in that forum will explode...!?



Move along, move along! ;) :beer:

[ThirdEye]

"You'd be better with a Mac G5"

I'm ok with my Wintel system, thank you, i don't have any money to spend at the moment.

"your Xeon will be starting to render shadow mpas by the time the new mac has got half way through the final render!"

wow! i need it! i need it! :rolleyes:

"then you'd have stability, speed and a real OS to run Cinema on!"

I never experienced a crash in the last 4 months and i had totally 4 or 5 crashes in my entire C4D life, do i really need Mac OS? Bah!

"Immature?? - how childish to get upset about it!"

how childish to still speak about which OS is better and which computer is better.

"Dangerous in that forum will explode...!?"

Read our policy and rules, software/computer battles are not allowed, and a comment like "your Xeon will be starting to render shadow mpas by the time the new mac has got half way through the final render" is just lame, immature and, i repeat, dangerous.

"Move along, move along"

:rolleyes:

[kromekat]

Oh come on Third eye!

The comment about the Mac G5 wasn't directed at you, no matter how much it appears to have upset you :)

It was simple unbiased advice related to speed, and which system currently offers the highest.

{how childish to still speak about which OS is better and which computer is better.}

er.. I didn't speak about which was better, just which was faster according to benchmarks. :rolleyes:

The stability/OS issue is down to experience, but hey, yeah that varies from machine to machine, so... sorry for that one indiscreet little attempt at tongue in cheek humour! :blush:

So if someone had posted a new thread asking which system would be best to run Cinema 4D on, by your reckoning, we'd all be immature and in 'danger' if we answered it honestly!??

A benchmark is a benchmark, not opinion or fighting talk! ;)

My apologies for.. whatever.

[JIII]

Basicly I look at it like this we are artists and friends here and so what if something is faster? Does it really matter there is no reason to start a possible war even if it is true.

I mean come on tell some lady she is uber fat even if it is true can still get the s*** beaten out of you.

[kromekat]

we are artists and friends here and so what if something is faster? Does it really matter there is no reason to start a possible war even if it is true.

Sigh - I agree! - I didn't raise the subject of speed, I responded to it with advice. It's of no consequence to me what system anyone chooses if they are satisfied with it!

No war wanted here thanks! :)

:banghead:

[JoelOtron]

Srek just posted an announcement at postforum that there is a new version of 8.1 available for download that fixes Wacom tablet sensitivity on the Mac.

IMO this would probably mean that 8.2 might be further away than hoped--as Siggraph is next week.

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by kromekat

So if someone had posted a new thread asking which system would be best to run Cinema 4D on, by your reckoning, we'd all be immature and in 'danger' if we answered it honestly!??


It wasn't an honest answer.

[kromekat]

It wasn't an honest answer.

Oh ok! :thumbsup:

[AdamT]

Originally posted by kromekat
Lol! :rolleyes:
No battles, I was responding to a post where someone said they were getting a Xeon PC because of it's speed over a Mac G4 800 - I was just advising that he might consider a Mac G5 instead (mimimum 1.6Ghz to 2x 2Ghz and 64bit architecture) as it is faster than the fastest Xeon or Pentium 4 according to current benchmarks!
;) :beer:

It's likely to incite conflict because you are making pretty bold assertions that cannot be proven. FWIW, most of the independent hardware sites I've seen have projected that the G5 will probably be slower than current top-end P4's and Xeons. Point is, though, that no one will know for sure until the machines are available for independent testing.

[kromekat]

Point is, though, that no one will know for sure until the machines are available for independent testing.

This is true, we only have independent hardware tests to base it on so far, real world tests will be the most important, so it's still worth waiting to find out for sure then isn't it!? ;)

If your already on a Mac, looking for faster hardware to run Cinema on, then it may not mean you need to jump platforms to do it! - it's that simple!

Why all the 'whoah, he's a troll, upsetting the veterans and locals with fighting talk!'

??

Chill guys, and be more hospitable to the newbies! - first impressions were good, but I am starting to wonder.

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by kromekat
This is true, we only have independent hardware tests to base it on so far, real world tests will be the most important, so it's still worth waiting to find out for sure then isn't it!? ;)


Even that isn't true -- the only hardware tests we have so far
were so blatanly falsified that they are less than worthless.


Chill guys, and be more hospitable to the newbies! - first impressions were good, but I am starting to wonder.

Don't shake the beehive and then complain about getting stung.

[AdamT]

Originally posted by kromekat
Chill guys, and be more hospitable to the newbies! - first impressions were good, but I am starting to wonder.
There are simply a few hot-button topics that are almost guaranteed to start a flame war, and one of them is Mac vs. PC. Three golden rules to avoid trouble: don't go there (PC/Mac), don't do personal attacks, and don't lie or mislead about how an image was created. Avoid those no-nos and it's a very cool place indeed.

[JIII]

AND DON'T POST PORN.

Unless I can examine it for decency first. Gotta protect the innocent don't ya know.

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by JIII
AND DON'T POST PORN.

Unless I can examine it for decency first. Gotta protect the innocent don't ya know.

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it, eh? ;)

[kromekat]

Don't shake the beehive and then complain about getting stung.

Who stung me?

Get a grip! - I am here because I love Cinema - I have already said that whichever platform you choose is down to personal taste, it was just a piece of info! jeez! :rolleyes:

the only hardware tests we have so far were so blatanly falsified that they are less than worthless.

Hang on, so are you saying that's a fact then? - nice use of double standards there! :applause:

there are simply a few hot-button topics that are almost guaranteed to start a flame war

Yeah no kidding! - some peoples buttons are set to touch sensitive, I didn't even get started with anything contraversial!

Anything useful to say about the 'oooh it will never happen' 8.2 update then anyone?

lol! Peace kids... pulllease! :beer:

[kromekat]

AND DON'T POST PORN.

Ok - this porn I can't post - should it be in Windows or Mac format?

;)

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by kromekat

the only hardware tests we have so far were so blatanly falsified that they are less than worthless.

Hang on, so are you saying that's a fact then? - nice use of double standards there! :applause:


There's no double standard there. It IS a fact -- one that has
been quite well demonstrated.

Ergo, the benchmarks told us next to nothing about the merits of
the G5, which means that the people behind the ad campaign
failed.

Rather an amusing way to undermine the one time that Apple
has some actual quality engineering to show off, eh?

[kromekat]

Ergo, the benchmarks told us next to nothing about the merits of
the G5, which means that the people behind the ad campaign
failed.

Rather an amusing way to undermine the one time that Apple
has some actual quality engineering to show off, eh


:rolleyes:

ok then! :thumbsup:

[flingster]

heh heh...chill on this thread guys.
so sorry i missed this lively bit of banter...
couple of things we should bare in mind.

1) we are not here to offend people...and people should not be easily offended.

2) forums are about discussion...not provoking a response.

3) please think about what you post because you want a reply and it may not be what you expected...that said people should be able to share information in confidence without having to worry about being shot down to harshly on the first few posts!

ps....so when is r8.2 coming out? heh heh...
:p :) :p

[Deestrakt]

hi guys, lets relax :)

about computers, whatever u use a PC or MAC, the race to performances is pointless, we all know that. Mr Pink buys a computer, and less than 6 months after, Mr White will come and tell him : "hey i just bought a new compi, and dude, its faster then yours". then guess what ? less then 6 months after that, another guy will come and tell to Mr White that he bought a faster compi, and so on..

finally, its not about PC or MAC i guess. its about money, and how much u can put in your hardware and regular update of your config. whatever u have, sb else will have better soon or later.
once u realise that, u can take it easy.. :D
ok of course PC & MAC differs from a lot of point of view, but its up to ppl's taste. as far as we are concerned in this thread, if we can work stable on C4D thats all that matters here. and i believe C4D is rock stable on both.

i think that no big deal happent here, and i hope it wont interfer with the excellent atmosphere of the C4D forum. maybe u dont see me often but i really enjoy the place and ppl here, so lets keep going :beer:


edited coz i forgot some words coz i had insomnia this night and and and i'm shattered today :hmm:

[Ibox]

OK, this is my take on all this performance banter :D

I, as stated earlier on in this thread, run a 400 Celeron... and... to tell you all the truth here, all of this performance stuff makes me laugh... because... I am able to box out my models just fine...

I use Wings3D for most modeling tasks, and save my final smoothes where required, for C4D... and I also do my renders in C4D...

Now, it's a given that I am no monster modeler like quite a few of you all, but... I do know how to box something out... with my humble little Celeron...

here's a WIP which was of course, started from a cube... actually since this I have given her buck teeth

now, like I said earlier, it ain't much compared to what you all are doing, but... if I had listened to many right here in the c4d forum, who told me ya can't model decently with a small celeron, well, then I would still be waiting, and not modeling...

the point... don't always listen to everyone else, but rather listen to what makes sense...

since this WIP, which I have basically shelved for now, I have modeled a few other critters, a couple of hoky cars, a suped up, Tim Allen looking lawn tractor and much much more... and all with a 400 celeron and a piddly 128bit, 16 meg v card... to which, because of driver issues, I have to turn the card acceleration off in order to see the verts as red dots in Wings... which also means that when I want a quick render I simply open the obj file in C4D and go for it... even with the card turned down... and ... all works just fine :D

and yea, I know that when I get into complex scenes with the whole cabootle of fx, that yea, it will be time for a decent powerhouse machine... no doubt... but... please...

I am already having a ton of fun just learning to model better, and learning the ins and outs of gaining better render results with what I have already... and it's great...

Wings3D rocks
C4D rocks
and the rest don't count :D (for me anyhoo :D )

[Erik Heyninck]

I did NOT read all the posts here. As most of us, I know all the arguments by heart. Simply this: lies or no lies: the G5 will be a well-awaited for piece of hardware for the mac community members that can afford to buy one. Pity that now suddenly the G4 has to be a worthless and old-fashioned puter. It was praised into heaven when it first came out. But that's life... Imo, it still is a good puter.

Yet: what unites us is Cinema. And I read on the Maxon publicity in ComputerArtsProjects , quote:

"We've got some surprises at SIGGRAPH Maxon's Booth 1937"

No denying anymore: Apple bought Adobe, then Corel bought Apple. Then Corel was bought by Microsoft and finally Maxon bought Linux...errr...???
:wavey:

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by Erik Heyninck

"We've got some surprises at SIGGRAPH Maxon's Booth 1937"


My guess is a BodyPaint update :applause:

[medula]

Your brains are faster at creating than ANY computers. Offended? :D

[LoGiY]

i have 7.2 now would i buy R8 or just wait a bit cos i heard its final version ye?

[ThirdEye]

Phone Maxon and ask them for the latest (Siggraph updated) version ;)

[danb]

anything new on the going ons at cinema and siggraph?

[Monty]

Well, the LW folks are going bananas over the sneak peaks of LW[8] that will be shown at Siggraph. Any such peaks from Maxon??:curious:

[AdamT]

Nope, no peaks yet. In my experience Maxon doesn't tease with little hints and peaks. When they have something to announce you'll get the whole shebang in one press release and on their website.

[Cyborgguineapig]

I just hope 8.2 fixes my freezing in OpenGL issue on my Radeon card.:hmm:

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by Cyborgguineapig
I just hope 8.2 fixes my freezing in OpenGL issue on my Radeon card.:hmm:

Try the new Catalyst drivers, they might help.

[Gerry]

Hmmm..
Final Render Stage 1 today is out,
maybe Adv. Rend. update??

[Cyborgguineapig]

Originally posted by Thalaxis
Try the new Catalyst drivers, they might help.

I would never try that in a million years until I know it wont **** me over. like they said, it is aain't broke, don't fix it. It runs flawlessly except for this problem in Cinema and I could not bear for a new driver to screw things up.:D

[Thalaxis]

Originally posted by Cyborgguineapig
I would never try that in a million years until I know it wont **** me over. like they said, it is aain't broke, don't fix it. It runs flawlessly except for this problem in Cinema and I could not bear for a new driver to screw things up.:D

In that case, I'd suggest taking a look at www.reactorcritical.com
and having a look at what they suggest. They usually provide
pretty good info about whether or not a given driver release is
stable.

Also, if it's WHQL certified, it ought to fine; be careful of the ones
that are not WHQL certified yet.

[darf]

Things I would like to see in Cinema4D v8.2:

Nonmodal SLA ( I use my own for new stuff but editing old scenes is a pain! )

Viable DOF ( or the ability to render the Bokeh effect without the blurring, wait, can I do that now? ).

Configurable hotbox parameter access ( shhh you evil seeds! )

Displacement maps that use UV would render correctly.

That yucky text primitive spline bug fixed ( pretty sure it's still there ).

Major Xpresso gui and workflow enhancements.

A few bug fixes in the SDK.

JENNAv2 built in... :D


darf

[Mentat7]

Hmm..this is becoming an 8.2 wish list. :) Two things I would like to see...implementation of normal mapping and pixel rendering (to take advantage of the normal map displacement).

[danb]

Cyborgguineapig, i got an ati radeon 32mb agp which initially came with no open gl support. i downloaded the catalyst driver and it works kick but for me. until i did this i had no idea open gl was that cool. i use to use the software driver....pppppllllll.... that was aweful. i think you should have no problem when using the catalyst driver. it says it supports radeon. good luck.


my wish list.

money to buy the Apple G5 that i hope maxon ports cinema4d 8.2 to this 64 bit behemoth.

of course that won't happen so i'm keeping my fingers crossed for mocca enhancements, and i'm pretty sure advanced render is going to be updated, now that i see cebas updated final render. oh yeah someone mentioned something about a gui improvement i think?:hmm:

damn it. siggraph is coming to slowly.:scream:

[flingster]

i submitted this to maxon awhile ago.
"Bokeh effect".......but you never really know whether they even get read or not....:shrug:

[chris_b]

Mentat7 - in order to take advantage of displacements generated from normal maps, first we'll need better handling of displacements. Sub-pixel
rendertime displacement would be as big an addition to Cinema as GI and HDRI combined. See here for some examples of the kind of detail you can get when your render engine has robust displacement capability:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=77779

Flingster - Do you have Advanced Render?? The new DOF allows for
automatic generation of bokeh effects with defineable iris shape, clarity
and rotation. I have been getting bokeh out of Cinema for months?! (since the release of 8.0) :)

[AdamT]

Bokeh without blurring is an oxymoron. Bokeh is simply a way to describe how out-of-focus points of light are rendered. It describes the appearance or "feel" of out-of-focus backgrounds and foregrounds.

[darf]

Originally posted by AdamT
Bokeh without blurring is an oxymoron. Bokeh is simply a way to describe how out-of-focus points of light are rendered. It describes the appearance or "feel" of out-of-focus backgrounds and foregrounds.

Not if you have written your own distributed raytracing to eliminate the need for the convolution filter ( that simply looks wrong with frontal blur ) and are only missing the bokeh artifacts. Makes perfect sense. :thumbsup:

Best Regards,
darf - cidertank

[Deestrakt]

can u explain what is the advantage of normal maps in comparison with displacement maps ?

Edit : ok i found the answer :http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71213

btw, mdme_sadie, its really great to know that u r actually working on it !

[flingster]

heh heh....

chris_b: yup got it...but not even got around to dof messing about i keep learning stuff about 8 everyday i seem to have missed..:rolleyes:

AdamT: oxymoron....who you calling oxy! heh heh.

my understanding of bokeh is not just blurring of light...but blooming of brighter lights? you need the glistening area to the light....caused in a real camera by the wider aperture...

darf : sorry don't understand really what you mean...but i'll take it as a given..:shrug:

[flingster]

my understanding was only brazil supported it.

http://www.pathcom.com/~vhchan/bokeh.html
http://www.neilblevins.com/cg_education/faking_bokeh/faking_bokeh.htm

a few links out of 3d world mag.

[chris_b]

'Bokeh without blurring is an oxymoron'

Adam - my photography knowledge is... err... somewhat limited. If you have a minute, could you please go into a bit more detail, explaining what you mean here and how it relates to Cinema's handling of bokeh.

This site on rendering bokeh effects says:

'Bokeh describes the out of focus quality of a camera lens. A point that is out of focus will normally be a soft, uniformly dense, circle. Different lens systems produce elipsis or hexagons and different distributions of light across the shape.'

http://www.flarg.com/bokeh.html

This photography site says:

'Bokeh is derived from a Japanese term referring to the appearance of out-of-focus highlights as rendered by various lenses. This term is new to many photographers, having been most recently popularized in the USA by some articles (e.g., Photo Techniques Magazine May/June 1997 - see links to PDF file by Harold Merklinger above). But bokeh is a term that has been in use for decades to describe a real and easily perceived photographic effect.'

http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/bokeh.html

[Shademaster]

Bakable Thinking Particles would be really nice!

A renderfarm is useless when you use thinking particles.

[chris_b]

more info and links....

X-Dof is capable of producing some nice bokeh effects:

http://www.evasion3d.com/xdof_gallery.html

Here's a great source of info and links on Bokeh in photography:

http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/bokeh.html

Two really good post-plugin filters:

http://www.reiji.net/iris/

http://www.reiji.net/iris/images/surf4.jpg

http://www.frischluft.com/

[Shademaster]

Hmm, if I am not mistaking, the bokeh effect is allready there in Cinema 4d Advanced renders DOF, right? The DOF filter is capable of getting that result, just look at this one:
http://www.3dtv.nl/pix_members/bokeh.jpg
This what you mean?

[flingster]

yeah basically thats what i mean't.
blur with intensity/depth


nice result...shademaster.
cool links chris_b

[AdamT]

Originally posted by darf
Not if you have written your own distributed raytracing to eliminate the need for the convolution filter ( that simply looks wrong with frontal blur ) and are only missing the bokeh artifacts. Makes perfect sense. :thumbsup:

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darf - cidertank

So you're talking about the highlight effects? Sounds interesting!

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Chris_b: Yeah I am familiar with the normal mapping and what is being done with it by Weta in regards to ZBrush. I am an avid ZBrush user. That is why I want to be able to do that type of micro-poly subd pixel rendering in C4D...so I can take advantage of the normal maps that I will create in ZBrush.

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