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RaptorArts
04-28-2009, 07:35 PM
I'm a traditional artist but have been wanting to get into game art and design for years but could never afford it. But now that I am dead broke with no job for 5 months due to the economy I have nothing to loose so I've been checking out a few colleges that teach Game Art & Design and have come up with these...

Laguna being my top choice right now.
http://www.lagunacollege.edu/
http://www.artinstitutes.edu
http://www.westwood.edu/
http://www.expression.edu/
http://www.platt.edu/

I really need to know what you guys recommend.

A friend who was in the Art Institute says learn on your own if you can cause hes still in debt up to his eyeballs. But hell if the Aztec calender is right were all doomed by 2012 anyway LOL "just kidding XD"

But seriously.. I need a college to succeed at this stuff. Ive tried learning on my own and it didn't go to far. I live in Oregon and really don't want to go outside of the west coast and am Looking at Colleges in California.

So I seriously need your advice and if you can give me a guest pass to post this on your forum please do so. I need all the help i can get :(

Rebeccak
04-28-2009, 11:13 PM
http://www.artinstitutes.edu (http://www.artinstitutes.edu/)
http://www.westwood.edu/
http://www.expression.edu/
http://www.platt.edu/Ixnay these I think, these are all chain schools, the Art Institutes being owned by Goldman Sachs - meaning the motivation is $$ not the interest of the student.

Laguna has a good program and some good teachers but probably you are better off aiming for someplace like Art Center College of Design in Pasadena.

I just posted what I think is an important cautionary tale regarding student loan and credit card debt (http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2009/04/debt-trap-college-borrowing-catches-up.html) to my blog and to this forum, which I think you should take into consideration. There are so many people throwing themselves at the gates of student debt without considering what it will really cost them in the long run.

Here in LA there are great community colleges with many of the same teachers teaching at them as the major art colleges in the area. You can get some great classes for a fraction of the cost. One example is Santa Monica Community College, with close proximity to the private Otis College of Art (where I teach), and then there is Pasadena City College, with close proximity to Art Center College of Design. The latter is really geared toward entertainment design (mostly 2D), and Otis also has a good digital media program.

You might also consider a place like Gnomon (mostly digital, visual effects / 3D), which is located in Hollywood, and offers a certificate program. That might actually be the best place since you are older and already have working experience. The problem is the expense, for a 21 month program, it will cost you around 40K. Sometimes they have a good group of students, and sometimes they don't, from what I hear, so it depends on the luck of the draw.

I'd consider trying community colleges first, you can make a lot of the same connections without going into massive debt, and perhaps get a job based on that...I think in these times students need to be more cautious about following pipe dreams to the tune of 100 K in debt that can ultimately land them in bankruptcy court.

Rebeccak
04-28-2009, 11:28 PM
Actually, looking at your portfolio it seems Gnomon might be the best place for you...or someplace like VFS in Vancouver, since you already have a lot of basic skills. Or, you could go to a place like Otis for their digital media program or Art Center and bypass the foundation years in all likelihood. Laguna's a good school, but doesn't have the critical mass that some of the LA based schools have...it's smaller and was started mainly as a community school for locals.

You might also consider AAU - Academy of Art University in SF.

I'd visit the schools before making any decision.

MrPositive
04-29-2009, 12:22 AM
I agree with Rebecca, as it seems you have substantial traditional skills (especially in sculpture) and just need a fast paced certificate program to transfer your 2D knowledge to 3D. Therefore, places like VFS and Gnomon would be perfect in your case, as they focus a substantial amount of time on hyper-realistic fantasy and realism, which would be right up your alley. It's expensive, but in your case, I'd say it's warranted. If you are wanting a degree, then Otis of course.
You can also check out most of these schools mentioned in the North American sticky post of schools. It will contain contact information, whether it's a degree or certificate, the length of time, student gallery, and tuition information.
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=285&t=748071

RaptorArts
04-29-2009, 03:57 AM
Actually, looking at your portfolio it seems Gnomon might be the best place for you...or someplace like VFS in Vancouver, since you already have a lot of basic skills. Or, you could go to a place like Otis for their digital media program or Art Center and bypass the foundation years in all likelihood. Laguna's a good school, but doesn't have the critical mass that some of the LA based schools have...it's smaller and was started mainly as a community school for locals.

You might also consider AAU - Academy of Art University in SF.

I'd visit the schools before making any decision.


I just checked out Gnomon School on line and its freaking incredible.. No need for the math, english, history BS. Gnomon teaches strictly what I need to know. Very cool! Ive ordered their catalog and eagerly await its arrival.

Though personally I think I need more training in the traditional arts as well. Ive never been happy with my 2D works or my sculpture.. Ill have to see what else Gnomon offers.

Now I have to check out Laguna and Gnomon Schools out :)

Thanks for the tip!

Rebeccak
04-29-2009, 06:38 AM
You're welcome, good luck. :)

sandysamuel
05-07-2009, 01:19 PM
Why dont you try your luck in Whistling Woods International ..
Here is the link http://www.whistlingwoods.net/main.asp

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