CGTalk - First HL2 high res ingame movie released tonight.

Kricket

07-15-2003, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by dchavez
Wasn't all this stuff already released in the HL2 700Mb video after E3?

DChavez out.

Yea, but this is non-cammed .. no annoying crowds/voice-overs, high quality video and no screwed up colors.

The 700mb file is also missing a scene where flying drones attack Gordon, hopefully that will be released via Steam too.

max_5

07-15-2003, 01:32 AM

The res on this video is sooo much better than the 700mb file. It shows the same content just at 1074*768 or something like that.

Kricket

07-15-2003, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by max_5
The res on this video is sooo much better than the 700mb file. It shows the same content just at 1074*768 or something like that.

Yea, quality's so high it looks like my video card is generating the picture in realtime instead of it being just a video.. it's that good folks. DOWNLOAD NOW! Can't wait for the Strider scene to be released. Filesize is gonna be insane tho.

roromx

07-15-2003, 03:34 AM

i have to download STEAM to get it?

Kricket

07-15-2003, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by roromx
i have to download STEAM to get it?

Yea, it's not a large download tho. Then if you want you can use Steam to DL and play Half Life, Counterstrike and other mods for free.

DaJuice

07-15-2003, 04:00 AM

Um, I can't find it, isn't there a link or something? The steam website still says "stay tuned blah blah"

Kricket

07-15-2003, 04:11 AM

http://steampowered.com/index.php?area=getsteamnow

DaJuice

07-15-2003, 07:01 AM

Ahh thanks, didn't know how that worked.

Seven

07-15-2003, 11:20 AM

<switch> ErikJ, do you know when you will release the 2nd video?

<ErikJ> We're get the second video out when things calm down from the first.

So we probably wont get one a night which is a shame.

<jhero> Erik - Will VALVe release new footage and perhaps new screenshots?

<ErikJ> jhero - Likley yes.

That is good news :)

dchavez

07-15-2003, 11:52 AM

Yah, I take back what I wrote earlier - this is VERY impressive. As someone else said, it looks like it's actually running on your GPU, rather than a video.

DChavez out.

Neil

07-15-2003, 04:43 PM

STEAM = worthless
They couldn't even handle the launch of CS 1.6. Stop trying to integrate all this 3rd party shit into games. Just have 1 person release it.

monotypic

07-15-2003, 05:47 PM

luvin it luvin it

BiTMAP

07-15-2003, 06:59 PM

I'm starting a steam fanclub, all those who wanna join email me (jk pls don't email me lol) and neil seriously whats wit the hate? And its not third party ;) its valve software from the beginning :P.

(whats wit people being against change?)

Neil

07-15-2003, 08:02 PM

I'm not against change, i'm against change that makes a good product bad!
It was Valve/Gearboxes ingenius idea to make everyone download STEAM, so that they can control downloading of patches and mods. This in turn FORCES everyone to just to one site, and they said "we're ready for the traffic"... well the site got absolutely destroyed in like 5 hours.
This was back in Dec. 2002, or early 2003.... i don't even remember anymore. And since then, we've been left out with NO updates and no way to get anything.

STEAM wanted to incorporate everything into one. Make it so you can chat, talk, and play the game. Well everyone is doing that already and doing it fine... their intrusion was totally unnecessary.

I mean if they really get their act together, then I will change, but to not be able to understand the flow of traffic when the next version is released it unexcusable. And it's not like they've never released versions before, they've (sierra and all other mirrors) have done this for years.

Neil

07-15-2003, 08:16 PM

And who can forget Valve's brilliant dive into PowerPlay.
"Enabling the Future of Entertainment on the Internet"

Never heard of it? Exactly...

Zastrozzi

07-15-2003, 09:45 PM

Comon form what I see stuff seems to e moving along great sure its a bit slow but enverything takes time to perfect.... and everyone is bound to fail once in awhile

Kricket

07-15-2003, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Neil
I'm not against change, i'm against change that makes a good product bad!
It was Valve/Gearboxes ingenius idea to make everyone download STEAM, so that they can control downloading of patches and mods. This in turn FORCES everyone to just to one site, and they said "we're ready for the traffic"... well the site got absolutely destroyed in like 5 hours.
This was back in Dec. 2002, or early 2003.... i don't even remember anymore. And since then, we've been left out with NO updates and no way to get anything.

Gasp! A system which keeps players updated with the newest patches and helps to prevent cheating? THOSE BASTARDS!:eek:

So their servers crashed last time? Big deal, live and learn. That just makes them better prepared the next time. And since CS was a free mod.. how can you really complain about waiting another day or 2 to download it?

As for Powerplay.. yea, it failed miserably. But so what? At least they tried to do something innovative unlike many other companies.

Neil

07-16-2003, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Kricket
Gasp! A system which keeps players updated with the newest patches and helps to prevent cheating? THOSE BASTARDS!:eek:

So their servers crashed last time? Big deal, live and learn. That just makes them better prepared the next time. And since CS was a free mod.. how can you really complain about waiting another day or 2 to download it?

As for Powerplay.. yea, it failed miserably. But so what? At least they tried to do something innovative unlike many other companies.

OMG, i don't think you've understood a single thing i've said.

A. You aren't keeping anyone updated if NO ONE can download the patches! It's been insanely long since the last update, when it used to be clockwork.

B. If you cut yourself with a knife once, you do live and learn, by not cutting yourself again. Well Valve has cut itself plenty of times, it's beyond living and learning, and more of a fact of incompetence, or disregard for the community.

C. CS broke out of the 'mod mold' once they made it retail. People are paying for the game!!!

D. Please follow the subject (HL/CS in this case) for longer periods of time before you try making responses. Their 'fixes' and 'preventions' for CS have been implimented since the start of 1.0. Nothing has prevented it so far, and i doubt they will ever stop it, unless they revamp the engine (HL2).

BiTMAP

07-16-2003, 01:11 AM

The Steam is still beta, and it may have crashed before, but now it works fine, and really there isn't a reason to complain... you know almost everytime i start up CS1.6 now i wait an extra 30 seconds, becuase it patches CS and makes some little changes... and Its nice to know that things are being worked on.

BiTMAP

07-16-2003, 01:18 AM

and now i just read your last post neil...

may I ask WHICH rock you have been hiding under all these years?

I have been developing on the half-life engine for 5 years now. and one thing that valve has NEVER done, is stupid things. You know how you hear EA isn't releaseing a map maker, and ID will not support modding (as a matter of fact, hates it).. well Valve has never been anything but supportive and Kind. And if you read stuff, you realise that its the mod team's choice to stay on the mod once it goes retail. if they do not wish too they can work on other projects, meaning either no one can fill in or its a spot filled in by someone else.

Also, since 1.0 has been 1.6, with MANY MANY rivision almost daily to it as it goes along.

So before you start telling people to follow half-life, may i suggest that YOU, go back and revist history.. without your jaded CS attitude this time. You'll find that Valve is probebly one of THE BEST Game companies out there right now as far as mods and addons and keeping the game rather up to date.

Neil

07-16-2003, 05:45 AM

Uhh... how am i "jaded"? I just got done playing CS right now, i love the game!
Well I already mentioned 1 big stupid thing they've done, so right off the bat, don't say they've never done anything stupid. Their ability to make the engine so free to mod'ing is very nice of them, and i'm sure it had nothing to do with it helping them still sell copies to this day years after it's release date.
This discussion wasn't about Valve, it was about Steam. Valve also has nothing to do with CS until recently. It wasn't developed by them.
And if you read stuff, you realise that its the mod team's choice to stay on the mod once it goes retail
I actually do "read stuff" occasionally. Yes, they CHOSE to stay on. And they CHOSE to make it retail. So they are charging for the game. You're really only taking stuff i'm already saying and twisting it around to make this into a fight. The last poster said "And since CS was a free mod.. how can you really complain about waiting another day or 2 to download it".

Also, since 1.0 has been 1.6, with MANY MANY rivision almost daily to it as it goes along

Yes yes yes. and my WHOLE point the WHOLE time, has been that these patches are worthless if no one can get them. And no one COULD get them b/c Steam was hogging it. Even since the intial decision to release 1.6 back in january, csnation, counter-strike.net and no one else is offering it STILL!
There was a very limited proportion of the community that got them before the server went down, and there are MANY people that still dont' ahve them.

BiTMAP

07-16-2003, 06:35 AM

eerr? steam is open beta now, anyone can download it and get cs1.6 and it was a smart move, take something they KNOW is popular and put it to download on the steam system, Its a picture perfect Stress test... and it had failed... so they are fixing it.

What i seem to get from you is a vary negitive feeling towards ALOT of things, most of them game related (off the top of my head, my Nemus Thread, and this one about Steam/valve) and its kinda annoying me.

Neil

07-16-2003, 02:34 PM

Well i'm not going to apologize for having different views on a topic than you.
Speaking of your Nemus thread, I didn't even remember that was you, and it was just a coincidence (probably chalked up to both of us reading HL related threads). You were very vague in your post and I didn't attack you, just asked questions that you failed to note (wanted to see if you were considering those points).

You gotta be able to carry a discussion without getting upset or taking it personal man, just relax.

spakman

07-17-2003, 12:22 AM

I swear you valve guys are freaking insane. Having to worry about PC resolutions has got to be a pain in the ass and a major mind$%#k. It's so chill and flaw-disguising to only have to be worried about television resolutions - for this production cycle, anyway.

props doods. :bowdown: As usual, it's been an education.

Kricket

07-17-2003, 12:46 AM

New video is up! It's the docks sequence. But you may already downloaded it to your system (maybe with other vids) ... check this link

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2510&perpage=15&pagenumber=10

When I clicked on it to view there was no DL time, it was already in that cache file I guess.. makes me wonder what else is inside.

raz-0

07-17-2003, 02:45 AM

Although I won't say I hate steam, it has a lot of problems.

Problem number one is it is slow. problem number two is it not catching new stuff without stopping it and restarting it.

Problem number three, however, is the real killer. It screws up lan parties. I've had more people put together rigs and buy copies of new games from throwing the odd lan-party than from plain old word of mouth. Which means you regularly get people who only play every now and then. They won't be patched up to the minute. And you won't be able to patch them quickly waiting for crap to download if you can even provide a net connection.

Anything bad for the multiplayer experience is not a good move.

Ariel

07-17-2003, 08:21 AM

I installed Steam 3 days ago and I must say I love it. I do not own CS anymore and in 8-10 minutes after getting Steam I was playing CS. From my own experience, I haven't seen any slowdowns, and the good thing is it will keep getting better.:thumbsup:

Zastrozzi

07-17-2003, 11:52 PM

vid # 2 is out today

Kricket

07-18-2003, 12:43 AM

By using a Hex Editor you can get a 3rd movie. Check this thread.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76138

Make sure you make a backup of your cache file if you try this.

Seven

07-28-2003, 12:29 PM

HL2 - TrapDown.exe has just been released. Its 180mb or so and shows the phyics system / ingame weapons / HUD etc.

Very nice.

fr3drik

07-29-2003, 02:06 AM

Any chance of getting these movies without having to install Steam?

raz-0

07-29-2003, 02:57 AM

fileshack has them.

Kricket

07-30-2003, 11:09 PM

w00! New vid - Tunnels is out now via Steam. will probably be up on Fileplanet and Fileshack soon.

Wish they'd hurry and release the Strider video.

Neil

09-18-2003, 03:28 PM

http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=44183

I was right, STEAM managed to bonk another release. And it sounds like STEAM is going to be mandatory with HL2 :annoyed:

BiTMAP

09-18-2003, 11:45 PM

yay, so exciting, its gonna be amazing once they get everything working!

Neil

09-19-2003, 01:29 AM

all arguing aside...

what exactly is 'amazing' about STEAM?

BiTMAP

09-19-2003, 01:58 AM

well, all bugs aside.. it "can" be fast (it is once you get the thing running a few times) its easier, the whole "friends" concept makes playing with people I know tons easier... its more organized, and it has a ton of potential. instead of paying 60$( canada sucks for game prices) to buy HL2 its like 12bucks (9.99 US) for a subscription monthly which entials you to everything that is released on steam (as far as i was under the understanding of). I just think the whole Steam thing is slick. and i really like how it makes the Gui ingame easier, less having to sit ingame, and more YAY i'm playing the game (well, after the bugs of course lol).

And if u read the steam news they ARE working on it, and after this bit o downtime stuff was working properly (actualy WORKING ) for me. I am personaly probebly going to get a boxed edition of HL2, and a steam subscription, so that i can get all the mods, and my brother and I can BOTH play HL2.. ect...

Neil

09-19-2003, 04:32 AM

Yeah, bugs aside (i know stuff like that takes time).
But STEAM is forcing a way of gaming that is not appealing to all gamers.

I don't want to ahve to use STEAM to search for my games, and then sit around and wait while it updates itself.
STEAM goes down, then we're all screwed. No playing.
WON was solid, and super quick to authenticate.

The big grip is just that, say you take your box to a LAN tourney, what if they don't have internet there. I can't just update my HL to everyone elses versions without going online and waiting on STEAM.
Nearly everyone already uses AIM or YAHOO or whatever, so friends programs are un-necessary. And you can still type in game, and speak (not that anyone really does taht anyway)... so what are they really trying to accomplish?

In general, it's just made playing slower and harder, both of which are already grips among gamers (pc vs. consol)