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William b. Hand
07-14-2003, 09:56 AM
(Boy, I've been busy crankin' out the art this week... Hope I'm not out-of-line with all the threads, I've just been doin' a lot.)

This thread marks my foray into the world of TECH. I'm hoping to do a lot more designs along these lines...

( I don't know why I can't post the image here... I've never had any problem with it before, but IMG code just isn't working :shrug: )


CLICK HERE for HOVERJET (http://homepage.mac.com/whand/.Pictures/GOLDFISH%20w.i.p%20(A).jpg)

William b. Hand
07-14-2003, 11:28 PM
I've fleshed out the repulsor arm and some other little bits here and there... These details are pretty tedious compared to the initial sketch.:hmm:
UPDATE no.1 (http://homepage.mac.com/whand/.Pictures/GOLDFISH%20w.i.p%20(B).jpg)
Seems real quiet around here, these days. Everybody's out in the pool, maybe?:shrug:

( Still no luck with the IMG code on this thread... Sorry you gotta do the link thing )

freddy7133d
07-15-2003, 03:39 AM
hey, I think its look really good!!! :thumbsup:

you have a neat technique.....makes your work really come off the page(or screen).... hope to see it finished...

Toby W. Allen
07-15-2003, 09:39 AM
That's lookign really nice, got any other work I can see?

Are you looking to be part of a Game dev team?

We're in great need of concept artist!!!!
We're using the Cipher engine www.cipherengine.com

Mail me.
Toby.

Atwooki
07-15-2003, 09:53 AM
Excellent sense of design!

I like the 'Bad-Ass Fish Dude also - his head is quite catfish-like, but withouthe barbules, if you know what I mean....

Atwooki

MikkoK
07-15-2003, 10:59 AM
This is looking quite good! :thumbsup:

I suggest you try two things:

1. Separate the light and dark areas from each other. Now it looks like you're playing too much with the middle tones. Of course this could be due to picture still being WIP.

2. Try changing the color in the shadow area, maybe a little cold blue wash could make it a lot better. Don't exaggerate it. If you add bright highlights, make sure you change the color too, something yellowish maybe. Now it looks like your shading is very much like it was grayscale, just values of one red/orange color.


I did a quick example to give you some idea
http://www.draconus.com/mikko/goldfish_version.jpg

William b. Hand
07-16-2003, 07:05 AM
Wow, great response! :love:
freddy7133d - thanks for the thumbs up! Glad you're diggin' it!
Toby - More work? Hm... yeah, I don't have a real site up yet (working on it) ... but, I can show you some other stuff! I'll email you shortly. I certainly appreciate the heads-up about the position, and we'll discuss that further. I'm flattered that you dig this piece that much!
Atwooki - Yeah, I thought the same thing about the catfish likeness... except he just seemed wrong to me when I added barbules, so I didn't expand the look any further! I'm glad you like what I'm doing these days!
Mikko K - Thank you for taking the time to do this! I see exactly what you mean about the lack of contrast and also the ill-advised use of greyscale...
All of your suggestions are solid.
I notice you've made some alterations here and there, and it's gonna be tough not to take it in that direction myself - because I like what you've done!
Love your work, by the way... and the style you're using is one that I hope to one day emulate. Again. I appreciate you taking the time and interest in this piece to remark so thoughtfully about it.
Thanks for the encouragement everybody! I'll post another update... mmn... tomorrow, probably. :)

MikkoK
07-16-2003, 11:59 AM
William, you're welcome :)

I have done a lot of digital paintings where I have had the same problem of lack of contrast or even worse, too much of it. I had wondered where should I start, how to pick the right colors etc.

This following tutorial by Ron Lemen helped me a lot in establishing the tones: http://www.anticz.com/drawing1.htm

In nutshell, you should first discard the brightest whites and darkest blacks and then avoid the middle tones (the ones near the middle of your program's Color Picker).

In result you should be painting pictures of which contrasts you don't have to alter after you've painted them. It takes time and practise to understand these things, and I'm a novice (21-yrs) too. The Color Picker of cg-programs is quite hard to master, since it allows you to easily pick any color. In real life, you are limited to fewer options so you can concentrate on painting better.

I think all of your pictures have hell of a potential. Keep practising and don't underestimate things like color theory and tutorials. I made a mistake of not practising in my teens, so even though I was ok in drawing, I never took time to really LEARN. I just did the same old orcs over and over ;)

Here's some links you might find useful:
http://www.sumaleth.com/links/

Good luck! :thumbsup:

jerbille
08-26-2003, 08:16 PM
Nice !! another nice concept of yours :D

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