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milqman
07-12-2003, 05:27 AM
This is theoretical and I don't want this to turn in to a flame war or a software bashing thread, I'd just like to know what software you'd choose. :)

I personally at this point would choose either 3d Studio Max or Cinema4D because the educational prices for them give the most bang for the buck, definately.

sampi
07-12-2003, 05:40 AM
mirai
then
xsi i guess
:cool:

robinson
07-12-2003, 05:45 AM
I would quit this job, :banghead:

then I would go on some lonely Island, after my return to the “real” world I would go to the US to become an Amish, as Amish I will win the bowling championship and after that…

and at the end I would use XSI… :blush:

But are we allowed to talk about something like that ??? :curious:

Triple G
07-12-2003, 05:57 AM
That's a tough one. I do like Cinema 4D a lot from what I've seen of it...I started with it back when C4D GO was still around (their entry-level package). The main thing that bothers me about C4D, at least at this point in time, is that among the apps you mentioned, it's probably the least-used one by professional studios. Not to say that it's a bad program by any means...just that I don't see too many ads of studios looking for people who are C4D masters.

Due to that, I'd probably have to go with Maya. I must say though, that I really dislike the fact that once you buy a copy, you're stuck with it...no license transfers ever. You can't even switch from a Mac to a PC (one of the things I love about LW)...the whole notion of one license per machine is not very appealing and frankly, seems pretty archaic. However, it's come down a lot in price in recent years, and Complete is well within the range of most freelancers. But you don't get fur and you don't get fluid effects, which is a major bummer. But again...Maya has serious market penetration with the major studios, so chances are much higher of finding a job if you know what you're doing with it.

Max would probably also be a good choice, but for me personally, since there's no Mac version...if all copies of LW were to suddenly disappear into thin air, I'd have to go with Maya. I wouldn't mind learning XSI or Houdini...but they're just a teensy bit out of my price range. :D

T4D
07-12-2003, 06:34 AM
WHAT The world has ended and my lightwave's gone !!!!!

we'll i would stop working as a freelance 3D artist
Invent that gun that transform people in to bits & bites
" from the Tron movie "
and become the world's first CG Porn star !!!
with a member for any kind of job :thumbsup:
Lara Coft here i "come":buttrock:


but if i was to think about it,.............which i don't do very offen

i would have to learn Maya purely for the job options
i used to use max and i just don't want to go back to it:thumbsdow

and if i had the money in the bank i would buy XSI and start freelancing again
Maya is a company type 3D app you need more then one person to get the most of it,
unlike LW & XSI where a single person can master it completely

milqman
07-12-2003, 06:41 AM
I believe its XSI...

but either way you say it, XSI or SXI... it sounds nearly identical :S

edit: what didn't you like about 3dsmax, t4d?

LyonHaert
07-12-2003, 06:44 AM
I'd become a hermit in the woods somewhere and never pay taxes again.

T4D
07-12-2003, 06:55 AM
QUOTE]I believe its XSI..but either way you say it, XSI or SXI... it sounds nearly identical :S
edit: what didn't you like about 3dsmax, t4d?.[/QUOTE]

edited it for you =)


well i used to uses Max 2 and then max 3
the modeling was evil compared to LW
but i'm sure that has been improved since i used it

Ram , it just loves chewing on ram compaires to LW
that sucks and brings a unstable thing to the OS

plugins are all powerfull in MAX
they help you do the easy stuff but when the job needs it to work it this way or look this way
you are stuff or you need to pay $$ for a plugin to do it correctlly

plus i hate asking the boss every month or so for money for plugins

one of the Maya plus is mel script because a code monkey can get
things working without going outside the company [

scythian
07-12-2003, 07:22 AM
houdini select
or
houdini master

Miyazaki
07-12-2003, 09:26 AM
If LW didn`t exist, I would go with a good allround package. XSI would be my first choice, but the price is too much for me. Cinema or perhaps Maya, I think :shrug:

LNT
07-12-2003, 09:33 AM
maya and XSI offer some really cool features but their workflow utterly sucks

I guess I would go for 3dsmax and learn part time houdini

Wolfzbane
07-12-2003, 11:29 AM
I'd go with Maya because I already know it since it's what I use every day on my day job.
Hmmm, then again maybe I'd dish out the $$$ for Rhino since I view myself mostly as a modeler and am not too crazy about animation.
But God forbid that Lightwave didn't exist... that's almost blasphemy... lol.

Nemoid
07-12-2003, 11:48 AM
Think Maya, for the work opportunities it offers at a good price..

but, hell, i'd have to make a pact with the devil to improve the workflow:banghead:

XSI is out of my money!!!!!

Rei Ayanami
07-12-2003, 11:51 AM
Why isnt Notepad up there???

i have no idea, i never tried out the other apps so i guess it would be demo time...

faulknermano
07-12-2003, 12:06 PM
how's infini-d? anyone can an opinion on that?

psil
07-12-2003, 12:23 PM
Ideally XSI. But probabaly Maya.

XSI is good, but not good enough to justify the price.

Maya is very good value for money.

Rei Ayanami
07-12-2003, 12:56 PM
infini D is fine, so long as you dont want to do anything serious on it. The modeling tools are rubish, and the render is very slow.

its cheap too, is it avalible on PC's, ive only ever used it on a mac.

aurora
07-12-2003, 02:05 PM
I would have to say Maya since I already have a copy of it and know how to use it. But I still have not and probably won't upgrade from v4 to v5. Don't use it enough to justify the price of the upgrade regardless of the new features. FYI I have ulitmate and would want to upgrade to ultimate for the fluid effects but the bucks still twice LW+DFX put together, Excuse me:rolleyes:

rock
07-12-2003, 07:14 PM
I already choose Maya even though LW still exists. The modeling and mental ray process between Maya and XSI are similar. Thus, it's like learning 2 applications for the effort of one. But XSI is too expensive now.

Badllarma
07-12-2003, 08:35 PM
None or I'd still be using Bryce and Poser as there is NO WAY I could afford any of the others:thumbsdow

milqman
07-12-2003, 09:51 PM
Cinema4d seems to be pretty darn cheap

Welll the educational pricing at least ($300 dollars?!?!?)

psil
07-12-2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by rock
I already choose Maya even though LW still exists. The modeling and mental ray process between Maya and XSI are similar. Thus, it's like learning 2 applications for the effort of one. But XSI is too expensive now.

Yeah, and I think Mental Ray is already better integrated into Maya than XSI. It's hard to believe SoftImage still haven't fixed the refraction bug in XSI 3.5

Chewey
07-12-2003, 11:50 PM
I can use and can get work done in any of the others listed but I wouldn't bother with Cinema4D or Houdini.

But since Lightwave does exist, this poll is somewhat pointless.

G-Prime
07-13-2003, 01:26 AM
Im my opinion, *ignore Chewey* Maya and Softimage are both the same but one is more expensive then the other for some reasons.

takkun
07-13-2003, 01:41 AM
In my opinion,*ignore G-Prime*, this thread is dumb :thumbsdow (and XSI is much better then Maya in almost every aspect, if XSI lowered it's prices it would put A|W out of business)

ThirdEye
07-13-2003, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by takkun
In my opinion,*ignore G-Prime*, this thread is dumb :thumbsdow (and XSI is much better then Maya in almost every aspect, if XSI lowered it's prices it would put A|W out of business)


much better than Maya? Integration with renderman? nurbs? paint fx? particles? cloth? dynamics? scripting? fluids? ;) Let's avoid starting a war but they both have their strong and weak points, XSI costs a fortune, Maya doesn't.

Wolfzbane
07-13-2003, 01:58 AM
Oh no, here we go again... :annoyed:
Please people, stop this bickering.

milqman
07-13-2003, 02:05 AM
looks like the only direction for this thread is down. ya'll can lock it if you want. sorry.

:shrug:

takkun
07-13-2003, 02:08 AM
looks like the only direction for this thread is down. I didn't know that this thread was ever up? Sorry, milqdude but what were you trying to accomplish with this thread anyway?

milqman
07-13-2003, 02:10 AM
I dunno, I just thought it'd be kinda interesting.

Sorry, I suppose I was mistaken.