Are we ready for 64 bit?

[olson]

All modern processors support 64-bit operating systems and applications (as well as 32-bit). There's really no reason to stick with a 32-bit operating system and applications at this point if buying or building a new system.

Photoshop CS4 does use the video card for navigating around the canvas, but isn't required. Any gaming card should do just fine for that. All previous versions of Photoshop don't use the video card at all. Cheers!

[Srek]

For what you do 32 bit will be very likely completely sufficent so you don't realy need 64 bit.
If however you decide to go that route anyway i can only recommend to get Vista 64 bit not XP.

Cheers
Björn

[vlad]

Wacom Intuos 3 are 64bit supported and have been for a while, no problem there.
Photoshop GPU support is still very buggy and unfortunately performs better without it enabled.

[biliousfrog]

I've been using XP 64bit for over a year with no problems apart from ZBrush 2 won't install...everything else is fine, great in fact. I've been using my Intuos 3 for all of that time as well.

All of my render computers are using XP64 too, including a Supermicro i7 920 server BTW.

[Szos]

I think the transition to 64-bits has completely been fumbled.

Even if you can get 64 bit drivers for all your hardware, and even if you get 64-bit software to run under your OS I still see potential problems.

Aren't there still incompatibilities with some software running in a 64-bit OS? (specifically Adobe software)

Aren't there "issues" with using a 3D MAX file created in the 64-bit version of the software and then trying to open it in the 32-bit version? Or vice-verse?

I foresee a nightmare of incompatibility if you work in a mixed environment where some people are 32 and some are 64.

Maybe I am over stating the problem, but as much as I would want to switch to 64-bits, I think it's not the right time.

[olson]

I think the transition to 64-bits has completely been fumbled.

Even if you can get 64 bit drivers for all your hardware, and even if you get 64-bit software to run under your OS I still see potential problems.

Aren't there still incompatibilities with some software running in a 64-bit OS? (specifically Adobe software)

Aren't there "issues" with using a 3D MAX file created in the 64-bit version of the software and then trying to open it in the 32-bit version? Or vice-verse?

I foresee a nightmare of incompatibility if you work in a mixed environment where some people are 32 and some are 64.

Maybe I am over stating the problem, but as much as I would want to switch to 64-bits, I think it's not the right time.

The right time to switch was yesterday, and the day before that, and the day before that. There's no compatibility problems with current software, in fact Photoshop CS4 has a 64-bit version included. Cheers!

[vlad]

I have XP 32 at work and XP 64 home. I transfer my Max files back and forth on a daily basis (Max 32 to Max 64) without any problems. I've installed Max 2008 64 and Max trial 2010 32 on XP 64 without any problem. CS3 and CS4 on 64, no prob. We have 32 and 64 bits workstations on our network, guess what? You got it. I've been on 64 bit (XP and Vista) for well over 2 years and the only issue I had was with my old Canon scanner drivers (Canon wouldnt release XP64 drivers for that model). I can use all my 8gb of ram and Vray doesnt hang anymore :thumbsup:

[Srek]

the only issue I had was with my old Canon scanner drivers (Canon wouldnt release XP64 drivers for that model).
Thats actualy exactly the only problem i have with XP 64 bit as well :)

I use XP 64 at home and Vista 64 in th eoffice.
No real problems whatsoever with both, however i prefer Vista due to it's better driver coverage and some stuff in the workflow that i came to like

Cheers
Björn

[Szos]

It's posts like these that give me pause about going 64:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5504362&postcount=6

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5250392&postcount=8

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5133439&postcount=2

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5135619&postcount=12

(and those are just a couple of posts that I have read about that make me hesitate)

I think if you just used 3D MAX and nothing else, you'd be OK, but when you factor in possible plug-ins and secondary programs like Quicktime and then mix in more than one computer and possibly having to net render them you get into more issues than there should be.
But like I posted before, maybe I am making this a bigger issue than it really is, but I HATE having to deal with a new OS and re-tweaking all the million settings that I had to mess around with to get the OS and all my apps the way I wanted them, so going to 64 and then possibly downgrading back to 32 would drive me nuts.

[olson]

It's posts like these that give me pause about going 64...

Do it or don't, its not our loss if you can't render something for a client because it uses more than 2GB of memory.

[bombertaylor]

Thax for the replies guys,I appreciate that.

So I think my problems occur because my laptop too old to handle latest tech then (It has been served me well for 4 years Ferrari 4000 ).Think time to say good bye with it.

[Srek]

It's posts like these that give me pause about going 64:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5504362&postcount=6

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5250392&postcount=8

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5133439&postcount=2

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5135619&postcount=12


None of these points out any real problem, just a few things that need to be observed.

Cheers
Björn

[Charsiu]

I was on the same boat trying to pick between vista 64 or stick with xp 32

I end up getting vista 64 because the latest support are really up to date and hopefully by the end of this year 64bit will become much more common so more drivers we can use :D

[Darkherow]

Okay Im not as technical as some on this forum and I dont know if this is relevant to this thread or even not worth mentioning but one problem I did encounter is when burning a disc from 64 bit and then putting it into a 32 bit and it couldn't read the disc. Has anyone got the same problem but I guess its not a serious problem as with this day and age alot of data is transferred with portable Hard Drives which dont present a problem as to burning a disc. However I say in my opinion that to have 64 bit now is okay but I'd say in a years time the hardware and software would be more appealing to me as better systems to support 64 bit.

[olson]

Okay Im not as technical as some on this forum and I dont know if this is relevant to this thread or even not worth mentioning but one problem I did encounter is when burning a disc from 64 bit and then putting it into a 32 bit and it couldn't read the disc. Has anyone got the same problem but I guess its not a serious problem as with this day and age alot of data is transferred with portable Hard Drives which dont present a problem as to burning a disc. However I say in my opinion that to have 64 bit now is okay but I'd say in a years time the hardware and software would be more appealing to me as better systems to support 64 bit.

Not sure how to begin, so, that's totally ridiculous. Storage medium and file systems have nothing to do with the operating system or hardware being 32-bit or 64-bit. Chances are something else was causing the problems.

[imashination]

Okay Im not as technical as some on this forum and I dont know if this is relevant to this thread or even not worth mentioning but one problem I did encounter is when burning a disc from 64 bit and then putting it into a 32 bit and it couldn't read the disc. Has anyone got the same problem but I guess its not a serious problem as with this day and age alot of data is transferred with portable Hard Drives which dont present a problem as to burning a disc. However I say in my opinion that to have 64 bit now is okay but I'd say in a years time the hardware and software would be more appealing to me as better systems to support 64 bit.

Completely unrelated, thats just crap burning software.

[tuna]

Awesome, I think I'm going to open a "64-bit" DVD store on ebay.

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