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MrPositive
03-31-2009, 11:43 AM
Here is the new and continuously updated North American School's List. So why is this (hopefully) better than the any of the other lists out there. First, I am only listing schools that either have a reputation or at least a student gallery on site. Secondly, you will notice that the first link takes you directly to the CG program for the school, and the second link takes you directly to the student gallery. Lastly, I also listed if it is a Bachelors Degree program or a Training/Certificate, and the tuition if posted. Enjoy.

If, you have a school in mind, please PM me a direct link to the CG program and to the student gallery with links. Thank you.
YOU MUST HAVE A STUDENT GALLERY OF SOME SORT TO BE PUT ON THE LIST.

United States

California (and Western states)

Academy of Art University – San Fran, CA
http://www.academyart.edu/animation-school/index.html
Gallery: http://studentforums.academyart.edu...3d_gallery.html (http://studentforums.academyart.edu/aau_website_galleries/ANM/ca3d_gallery.html)
4 year Bachelor of Fine Arts Degree
Tuition: http://www.academyart.edu/admissions/tuition_rates.html

Brigham Young University – Provo, UT
http://www.et.byu.edu/animation/
Gallery: http://www.et.byu.edu/animation/major/sample.html
(http://www.et.byu.edu/animation/major/sample.html) 4 year BFA degree
Tuition: http://home.byu.edu/webapp/finserve/content/page/Tuition.html

College of the Canyons - Santa Clarita, CA
http://www.canyons.edu/departments/DAT/intro.html (http://www.canyons.edu/departments/DAT/)
Associate and Certificate Programs

Cal Arts – Valencia, CA
http://calarts.edu/film/video/programs/characteranimation
Gallery: http://calarts.edu/film/video/videogallery
4 year Bachelor of Arts Degree
Tuition:1 year ~$31,000

Cogswell – Sunnyvale, CA
http://www.cogswell.edu/digitalArts1.html
Gallery: http://www.cogswell.edu/program_daa.htm
Bachelor of Arts Degree
Tuition: http://www.cogswell.edu/tuition_fees.htm

Digipen – Redmond, Washington
https://www.digipen.edu/prospective...egree-programs/ (https://www.digipen.edu/prospective-students/academics/degree-programs/)
Gallery: https://www.digipen.edu/gallery/art/
4 year Bachelor Degrees
Tuition: https://www.digipen.edu/prospective...-financial-aid/ (https://www.digipen.edu/prospective-students/tuition-and-financial-aid/)

Ex’pression College – Emeryville, CA
http://www.expression.edu/animation_visual_effects/
Gallery: http://www.expression.edu/animation_visual_effects/gallery/
Tuition: http://www.expression.edu/tuition_financial_aid/

Gnomon School of Visual Effects – Hollywood, CA
http://www.gnomonschool.com/
Gallery: http://www.gnomonschool.com/experie...ent_gallery.php (http://www.gnomonschool.com/experience/gallery/students/student_gallery.php)
Non Degree Vocational School with 1 and 2 year programs
Tuition:1 year ~$12,000 2 year~$45,000 Maya Fast Track~$9,000

Otis College of Art and Design – LA, CA
http://www.otis.edu/academics/digit...ia/index.html#2 (http://www.otis.edu/academics/digital_media/index.html#2)
Gallery: http://www.otis.edu/academics/digit...tion/index.html (http://www.otis.edu/academics/digital_media/work/3d_animation/index.html)
Bachelor of Fine Arts Degree in Digital Media
Tuition: http://www.otis.edu/admissions/unde...n_and_fees.html (http://www.otis.edu/admissions/undergraduate_admissions/tuition_and_fees.html)

Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design - Denver, Co
http://www.rmcad.edu/animation/overview

USC Animation and Digital Arts – LA, CA
http://www.usc.edu/dept/publication.../animation.html (http://www.usc.edu/dept/publications/cat2008/schools/cinema/animation.html)
4 year Bachelor of Arts and 2 year Master of Fine Arts

University of Colorado at Denver Digital Animation Center - Denver CO
http://www.cu3d.org/
Gallery: http://www.cu3d.org/studentGallery.html
4 year BFA
Tuition: http://www.cu3d.org/tuition.html

South

Collins College – Tempe, Arizona
http://www.collinscollege.edu/programs/index.asp
Gallery: http://www.collinscollege.edu/gallery/student.asp
Bachelor of Arts Degree

Dave School – Orlando, Florida
http://www.daveschool.com/animation-program.php
Gallery: http://gallery.daveschool.com/
1 year training program

Digital Media Arts College-Boca Raton, FL
http://www.dmac.edu/Undergraduate.php?src=gendocs&ref=ProgramsOfStudy_undergrad&category=About%20DMAC%20--%20Programs%20Of%20Study&submenu=programs_of_study_sub
Gallery: http://www.dmac.edu/TheVideoGallery.php?src=gendocs&ref=animations&category=Gallery
Bachelor of Fine Arts in Computer Animation, MFA in Special Effects Animation
Tuition: http://www.dmac.edu/TuitionandFees.php?submenu=TuitionandFees2&src=gendocs&ref=Tuition&category=Admissions

Full Sail – Winter Park, FL
http://www.fullsail.com/flash/index...puter-animation (http://www.fullsail.com/flash/index.cfm?degree=computer-animation)
Gallery: http://www.fullsail.com/flash/index...puter-animation (http://www.fullsail.com/flash/index.cfm?degree=computer-animation)
Bachelor’s Degree

Gemini School of Visual Arts – Cedar Park, TX
http://www.geminischool.com/html/index.asp
Gallery: http://www.geminischool.com/html/student_gallery.asp
Four - Year Diploma in Visual Arts & Communication (12 quarters)
Tuition: http://www.geminischool.com/html/tution_fees.asp

Ringling College of Art and Design – Sarasota, FL
http://www.ringling.edu/CA.36.0.html
Gallery: www.ringling.edu/portfolio/index.php?cover=CA (http://www.ringling.edu/portfolio/index.php?cover=CA)
4 year degree
Tuition: http://www.ringling.edu/fileadmin/c...uition_Fees.pdf (http://www.ringling.edu/fileadmin/content/admissions/pdf/Tuition_Fees.pdf)

SCAD – Savannah, GA
http://www.scad.edu/visual-effects/
Gallery: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=285&t=748071
4 year Bachelor of Fine Arts Degree
Tuition: http://www.scad.edu/admission/cost-financial-aid/cost.cfm

Midwest

Carnegie Melon – Pittsburgh, PA
http://www.etc.cmu.edu/
Gallery: http://www.etc.cmu.edu/projects/currentprojects.php
2 year Master’s ProgramTuition: http://www.cmu.edu/hub/sa/sa_tuition.html

Cleveland Institute of Art – Cleveland, OH
http://admissions.cia.edu/majors/di...=3&subMenuID=38 (http://admissions.cia.edu/majors/digitalarts.cfm?menuID=3&subMenuID=38)
Bachelor of Fine Arts 4 year degree
Tuition: http://admissions.cia.edu/financial/TuitionandFees.cfm

East Tennessee State – Johnson City, TN
http://digm.etsu.edu/web/links.php
Gallery: http://digm.etsu.edu/web/portcat.php (http://digm.etsu.edu/web/portcat.php)
BS Degree in Visual Media
Tuition: http://www.etsu.edu/admissions/tuition.aspx

Purdue University – W. Lafayette, IN
http://www.tech.purdue.edu/cgt/
Gallery: http://www.tech.purdue.edu/cgt/showcase/index.html
4 year Bachelors Degree
Tuition: http://www.admissions.purdue.edu/costs/tuitionfees.html

IUPUI CGT – Indianapolis, IN
http://www.engr.iupui.edu/cgt/bs_cgt.shtml?menu=bs
Gallery: http://www.siggraph.iupui.edu/
4 year Bachelor of Science Degree
Tuition: http://enroll.iupui.edu/admissions/paying/cost

East

Champlain College – Burlington, VT
http://gamestudio.champlain.edu/
4 year Bachelors Degree

FIT - New York
http://www.fitcg.com/index.html
Gallery:http://www.fitcg.com/gallery2009.html

New York University (Tisch) - New York
http://filmtv.tisch.nyu.edu/page/home.html
Gallery: http://gradfilm.tisch.nyu.edu/page/gfilm_showcase.html
Tuition: http://gradfilm.tisch.nyu.edu/object/gradTuition.html
(http://gradfilm.tisch.nyu.edu/object/gradTuition.html)
Pratt Institute – New York
http://dda.pratt.edu/
Gallery: http://dda.pratt.edu/gallery.php (http://dda.pratt.edu/gallery.php)
BFA Digital Animation Curriculum
Tuition: http://www.pratt.edu/bursar# (http://www.pratt.edu/bursar)

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute – Troy, NY
http://www.gsas.rpi.edu/
Bachelor of Science Degree in Games and Simulation Arts and Sciences

Rhode Island School of Design – Providence, RI
http://www.risd.edu/film.cfm
Gallery: http://www.risd.edu/film_gallery.cfm
4 year Bachelor of Fine Arts Degree
Tuition: http://www.risd.edu/factsfigures.cfm

RIT – Rochester, NY
http://cias.rit.edu/film/
Gallery: http://cias.rit.edu/film/bfaAnimation.php?sectitle=gallery
4 year Bachelors of Science program and 2 year Masters program
Tuition: http://finweb.rit.edu/sfs/billing/tuitionandfees/0910/undergraduate/fulltime.html

School of Visual Arts-New York
http://www.schoolofvisualarts.edu/u...?sid0=1&sid1=21 (http://www.schoolofvisualarts.edu/ug/index.jsp?sid0=1&sid1=21)
Gallery: http://www.svacomputerart.com/studentwork.html
4 year Bachelor of Fine Arts Degree
Tuition: http://www.schoolofvisualarts.edu/t...dex.jsp?sid0=73 (http://www.schoolofvisualarts.edu/tuition/index.jsp?sid0=73)

The Art Institute
http://www.artinstitutes.edu/Campus...ns/Default.aspx (http://www.artinstitutes.edu/CampusLocations/Default.aspx) - 42 locations
Gallery: http://www.artinstitutes.edu/AreasO...llery.aspx?ID=6 (http://www.artinstitutes.edu/AreasOfStudy/Gallery.aspx?ID=6)
Tuition: http://www.artinstitutes.edu/admissions/tuition-and-costs.aspx

Canada

Atlantica Centre for the Arts - Saint John, NB
http://www.atlanticacentre.com/index.html
Gallery: http://www.atlanticacentre.com/atlanticacollege/animationprogram.html

BCIT - Burnaby, British Columbia
http://www.bcit.ca/study/programs/6435cert
Gallery: http://www.bcit.ca/study/programs/6435cert
Tuition: http://www.bcit.ca/admission/fees/fulltime.shtml

DevStudios International - Edmonton
http://www.mydeveducation.com/
Gallery: http://www.mydeveducation.com/student-gallery.html
3D Animation Diploma (6 months)
Tuition: http://www.mydeveducation.com/3danimation-finance.html

Humber College – Toronto, Ontario
http://postgraduate.humber.ca/11632.htm
3 semester program
Tuition: ~$8,600 domestic and 11,730 international for the 1 year program

Maxx the Mutt – Toronto, Ontario
http://www.maxthemutt.com/classical...r_animation.asp (http://www.maxthemutt.com/classical_and_computer_animation.asp)
Gallery: http://www.maxthemutt.com/student_gallerysplitter.asp
3 year diploma in Computer Animation

NAD Center – Montreal, QC
http://www.nadcentre.com/
Gallery: http://www.nadcentre.com/regular/portfolio

Red River College - Manitoba, Canada
http://dmt.rrc.mb.ca/ (http://dmt.rrc.mb.ca/%20)
Gallery: http://vimeo.com/redrivercollege
One-year Post-Graduate Diploma

Seneca College – Toronto, Ontario
http://scaweb.senecac.on.ca/prospec...programCode/DAN (http://scaweb.senecac.on.ca/prospective/programs/overview/programCode/DAN)
Gallery: http://scaweb.senecac.on.ca/prospec...programCode/DAN (http://scaweb.senecac.on.ca/prospective/programs/student-work/programCode/DAN)
8 month certificate
Tuition: $9937 for Canadian residents and ~13,000 for international

Sheridan – Oakville, Ontario
http://www.sheridanc.on.ca/Admissions/Explore/Programs/Programs%20A-Z%20Index/Computer%20Animation.aspx
Gallery: http://cfprod.sheridaninstitute.ca/program_micro/pcanm/
2 year certificate
Tuition: http://www.sheridanc.on.ca/admissions/fees%20and%20financial%20aid/academic%20fees.aspx##FTtuition

Vancouver Film School – Vancouver, BC
http://www.vfs.com/fulltime.php?id=7#/alumni/0/
Gallery: http://www.vfs.com/showcase.php?id=7
1 year non degree diploma
Tuition: http://www.vfs.com/admissions.php?r...section=tuition (http://www.vfs.com/admissions.php?region=Canada&section=tuition)

Van Arts – Vancouver, BC
http://www.vanarts.com/programs/3d-animation
Gallery: http://www.vanarts.com/showcase/3d-animation
1 year training diploma
Tuition: http://www.vanarts.com/admissions/tuition

taxguy
03-31-2009, 01:05 PM
Nice Post, Mr. Positive. However, you omitted two schools.

1. Carnegie Melon's graduate program in entertainment technology:http://www.etc.cmu.edu/
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Two year masters program

2. Rochester Institute of Technology has two programs, animation and 3D Digital Graphics ( which is a new program).
Location: Rochester , N.Y.
four year bachelors program and two year masters program
URL: http://www.rit.edu/programs/program...display=college (http://www.rit.edu/programs/program_listing.php?display=college)

MrPositive
03-31-2009, 08:39 PM
I have both on my list, but just hadn't gotten to them yet. Thanks for the summation's though. :)

FloydBishop
04-03-2009, 06:21 AM
How about The Art Institute of California? I teach at the San Diego branch. (http://www.artinstitutes.edu/sandiego/)

DOOM-GHOST
04-07-2009, 11:23 AM
thanks a lot for this helpfull post :applause:

CPFitz14
04-19-2009, 01:36 PM
East Tennessee State University in Johnson City, TN.

digm.etsu.edu

feeljive
05-08-2009, 06:29 AM
and dev studios in edmonton alberts im a student there and the school turned me on to the web site how odd i find this forum.

popflier
05-09-2009, 06:55 AM
Should also add the University of Colorado at Denver Digital Animation Center - Denver, CO

www.cu3d.org

Just finished my 4 year degree there a year ago. Don't know why it's not on this list already as it's a pretty good sized school with a waiting list.

SCM
06-15-2009, 04:34 PM
My son just graduated from high school and has been accepted to attend The Illinois Institute of Art - Chicago (Game Art). He is opting to go there despite being accepted to a traditional UW school. If anyone has input regarding the Illinois Institute of Art - Chicago, I would GREATLY appreciate it. I want him to be going in the right direction, and after touring the school, and reading online reviews I am not getting a good feeling about it. Thanks~

Muunuu
06-18-2009, 06:24 PM
I have both on my list, but just hadn't gotten to them yet. Thanks for the summation's though. :)

How about New York University? I have NYU 1st on my list for graduate school...

taxguy
07-15-2009, 02:03 AM
You might want to add Rocky Mountain College of ARt. They have both a 2d animation major and a 3D animation major.

Cercina
09-09-2009, 05:45 PM
My son just graduated from high school and has been accepted to attend The Illinois Institute of Art - Chicago (Game Art). He is opting to go there despite being accepted to a traditional UW school. If anyone has input regarding the Illinois Institute of Art - Chicago, I would GREATLY appreciate it. I want him to be going in the right direction, and after touring the school, and reading online reviews I am not getting a good feeling about it. Thanks~

I attend the Illinois Institute of Art in Schaumburg for Media Arts and Animation, let me tell you now that going to AI's anywhere in the country, you get from the program what you put into it. If your son works hard, and does what he's suppose to, he'll be fine. One thing I'd like to stress is attending every class, and making sure your son loves being at the facility. If you're there, at the campus, you're more apt to getting your work done.
I have a friend that goes to the Chicago campus for Game Art and Design, and he's doing just fine. The AI's program is definitely a program that requires self motivation and the ability to work on your own without need of other people kicking you constantly.
AI's have excellent instructors, that have been working in the business, and generally are STILL working in the business, just make sure your son knows that the only way he's going to get any extra nuggets of information is by asking, and finding ways to be a problem solver on his own.

I wish him the best of luck.

StephanePayette
09-30-2009, 01:39 AM
A good addition in the Canada part of the list is :

NAD Center – Montreal, QC
http://www.nadcentre.com/

Gallery ( student's demos ): http://www.nadcentre.com/regular/portfolio

taxguy
10-26-2009, 05:31 PM
NYU has a graduate Digital Imaging major as part of their Center for Advanced Digital Applications. It is in the School of Continuing and Professional Education. Although I have heard good things about it, I personally know little about their program.

sutterkain
11-14-2009, 03:18 AM
Thanks for this helpful post. I just enrolled at Art Institute of Pittsburgh Online in Media Arts and Animation... I have take one course and am quickly realizing that I do not want to continue here, due to; lack of admin/advisor response and support, a poorly structured online learning interface, (not to sound like a snob) not very intelligent classmates... I could write a long list of reasons why I shouldn't continue learning through this school. With that said, i am scheduled to withdraw from the program this Monday and I am looking to transfer to another online program.

I have have about 8 years of experience in multimedia design; motion graphics, Flash animation, video editing and web design... I am trying to find an online degree granting program that teaches this discipline so that I can:

Earn my bachelor's of fine art or science degree
Open my mind to and learn about art history
Learn how to better draw perspectives, shading, anatomy, etc...
Learn visual effects
Learn 2D animation
Learn all aspects of 3D modeling & animation
My goal is to work in video production and CG... preferably a smaller firm where I could work on various aspects of the production process for interactive media, commercials, possibly films. Right now I work for an ad agency as an Interactive Media Producer...

I am considering Academy of Art's Animation/Visual Art bachelor's... can anyone tell me if I will run into the same issues as I did at Art Institute Online. I am a motivated, self disciplined person... I just reuse to endure bad support, bad online interface and bad curriculum structure for four years and then have $90k in dept over my head. I can't find any local schools that teach anything like this.

Any professional advice welcome. I apologize if I am long winded in this post!

Thanks,
Robert

MrPositive
11-14-2009, 07:36 PM
Completely updated the school's list today. Fixed bad links, organized, and added several schools and took out a couple. November 14th.

bstout
11-15-2009, 05:42 PM
please add The New York Film Academy to your list.
we offer 4 week classes wher it is safe to say we do in 4 weeks what most schools do in a semester, (or a year).
we also offer a 9 month program wherein students do a short in 4 weeks. another short in about 10 weeks. Then in the second semester we do group projects so that teams of students work together to make a film (much like the industry which is a team based world).
So 9 months three films. Because we learn by doing.

Utsurokuri
11-26-2009, 07:00 AM
Here's a school to add to the Canada list:

BCIT
http://www.bcit.ca/study/programs/6435cert
Tuition:http://www.bcit.ca/files/pdf/admission/09-10-ht-da-tuition.pdf
Type: 1 year certificate.

AtlanticaCentre
12-16-2009, 11:48 PM
Atlantica Centre for the Arts - Saint John, NB
http://www.atlanticacentre.com/
http://www.atlanticalive.com/index.html
http://www.atlanticacentre.com/studio/index.html
3D Animation, Recording Arts, Fashion Design and Radio Broadcasting

jsam
12-20-2009, 05:43 PM
Thank you so much about the helpful post.........

djrovers123
12-22-2009, 11:08 AM
how about lost boys learning school of visual affects http://www.lostboys-learning.com/
:beer:

DennisTheArtist
02-17-2010, 03:24 PM
Dude you left out like 2 of the biggest Design schools in New York City. The Fashion Institute of Technology NY University & Parsons School of Design which has been around for like 100 years. Both have an Illustration & CG Departments.

MrPositive
02-17-2010, 05:08 PM
Dude you left out like 2 of the biggest Design schools in New York City. The Fashion Institute of Technology NY University & Parsons School of Design which has been around for like 100 years. Both have an Illustration & CG Departments.

I know about both schools, but I have never been able to locate a CG online portfolio for either school, which is a requirement the moderators laid out from the beginning. If you can provide their online locations, then I'd be glad to include them on the list. It helps our members out very little, if they cannot see the quality of work the students are producing from their CG courses. If we listed every art school and design school that taught a CG course, the list would be 25 pages in length. We are more concerned with quality over quantity. This is not to say that schools without online portfolios do not provide quality CG education, but we require proof.

P.S. Even my own program does not have an online gallery as of yet (new site), which saddens me. And I have not listed them either.

DennisTheArtist
02-17-2010, 06:58 PM
You have to look in order to find this information which is posted on their main websites.
FIT
@
http://www3.fitnyc.edu/illustration/

http://www.fitcg.com/

Parsons
@
http://amt.parsons.edu/
http://www.newschool.edu/parsons/mfa-design-technology-student-work/
http://www.parsons.edu/illustration (http://www.parsons.newschool.edu/departments/department.aspx?dID=75&sdID=99&pType=1)
http://www.newschool.edu/parsons/bfa-illustration/

gawl126
02-18-2010, 09:23 PM
San Jose State University
BFA in Art (Animation/Illustration Emphasis)
http://www.sjsuai.com/ai/Welcome.html

Featured Work:
http://www.sjsuai.com/ai/Featured_Work/Featured_Work.html
http://www.shrunkenheadman.com/illustration/
http://www.shrunkenheadman.com/p/home/animation
(http://www.shrunkenheadman.com/p/home)

roderickweise
02-23-2010, 01:57 AM
You are missing one in north Vancouver Think Tank Training Centre there website is tttc.ca

bstout
03-20-2010, 04:45 PM
please add New York Film Academy
student work
http://student-films.nyfa.com/3d-animation
curriculum
http://www.nyfa.com/film-school/animation/1year.php

thanks

Bill Stout
New York Film Academy

HughBowen
04-05-2010, 06:25 PM
the geography of this list is off alot...such as Tennessee is in the south and arizona is in the midwest you should look at a USA map and correct this stuff its way off.

MrPositive
04-08-2010, 06:46 AM
the geography of this list is off alot...such as Tennessee is in the south and arizona is in the midwest you should look at a USA map and correct this stuff its way off.

So is your grammar. Nevertheless, I serioulsy have no clue what you are talking about. Tennessee is not listed in the South, it's listed as in the Midwest. And Arizona is listed in the South, which I guess could be West. But who cares!? This was done by professionals and instructors (moderators) in the industry who put countless hours into it for free, all for the benefit of the community. If you don't like it, don't use it. But please refrain from clogging up the forum with countless posts on the matter.

Zarathustra
05-21-2010, 05:59 PM
East

Digital Media Department, Westphal College of Media Arts & Design, Drexel University (http://digm.drexel.edu) - Philadelphia, PA
Degree and certificate programs include a 4-year BS degree that includes Drexel’s renowned 6-month co-op experience. We also offer an accelerated BS/MS program, a 2-year MS degree, and a 1-year certificate program made available to individuals with baccalaureate degrees and seeking special skills in digital media.

YOUSEF-MAX
05-29-2010, 08:05 PM
Is there a program specialized in architectural visualization
in Canada

santuroars
07-12-2010, 07:29 PM
Can anyone please guide me as to how I can get enrolled for masters in an american university? (i chose Academy of Art San Francisco). Is it possible for me to get into a masters program? If not which course am I eligible for? Please help me out...Please...

foxco
07-15-2010, 06:55 PM
There are two new 3d schools in Vancouver Canada that could be added to the list

VCAD located in downtown Vancouver
and Think Tank Training Center in North Vancouver,

I'm an instructor and Mentor at Think Tank and would highly recommend it for anyone who is interested in 3d.
:)

Cheers

HuyFX
07-18-2010, 04:17 AM
I'm interested and wanna learn to be a VFX artist. What school should I choose? Any suggestion? DAVE, Gnomon or VFS ?

RogerRyan
07-22-2010, 05:34 AM
Here is another Art School:

West
LCAD- Laguna College of Art & Design

taxguy
12-22-2010, 11:40 PM
Due to a revamp of the curriculum, NYU is n't accepting students for 2011 year.

Rysh
12-24-2010, 09:23 AM
Thank you guys! very helpful.:)

SundayForever
03-03-2011, 12:38 AM
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clawmaster
03-21-2011, 10:09 PM
Hello everyone, I am new here and as my first post will be a sad one. Today my dad and I has an appointment of trying to get into SJSU for this fall. I was coming in with a 2.6, have completed all the requirements to transfer, and some of the art classes SJSU has at my current college, Napa Valley College. When we arriave and talked to the people at SJSU, it turns out for the major I was going for there, Arts/Animation, you needed at least a 3.4 GPA to be considered in transfering in since they were taking in only local students to thier campus. So now feeling bummed out I figure SF state might be the place for me. What I am looking for is a school to give a degree in 3D modeling as I am an inspiring student wanting to get into the video game industry. There is the suggestion of Academy of Arts in San Fran also I can look at, but I need help. Frustrated and bummed out I am not sure which college is for me right now. I live in northern California area and I would like to stay up here and go to a college that has what I need. The plan is for now is to take more art classes at my college to better my GPA then apply to a school in the spring OR move down with my parents when they plan to move down to south California. I want to stay up here just for the sake of I have a lot of friends up here and rather stay up here. Broken hearted and all, I need help.

so suggestions to any colleges in the northern cali area that has a degree in what I am looking for? Anybody that went to Academy of Arts or SF state got the degree I am aiming for? Please HELP!

gawl126
03-27-2011, 02:37 AM
With that kind of GPA you can't really expect to be accepted into very many places. I think you should consider staying at your Community College and improve your grades like you mentioned. You should also note that if you ever decide to reapply to SJSU, you are REQUIRED to keep your GPA above a 3.0. Just getting through your classes will not cut it even at other schools. If you're just passing, don't expect companies to be hiring you just because you have a degree.

If you move down to Southern California there are more choices for you, but with your low GPA those schools will not even accept you either!! :banghead:

Orentesh
04-12-2011, 06:15 PM
Hey so I'm currently at a community college finishing up my 2 year degree. I'm looking at BYU's Animation or Illustration track. I am interested in doing concept design work so at first I assumed that Illustration was what I wanted, but after looking at the classes that are taken, it looks like the Animation track has more concept design oriented classes. Any advice is appreciated.

clawmaster
04-17-2011, 11:15 PM
okay so after a few weeks of thinking it over I plan to say another semester at my college to up my GPA. What I am asking for now is, is there any public schools in California that offer 3D-modeling classes or anything related to that program. San Jose State are offering it, but also SF State is offering more of the animation side then the 3D modeling side. Does having a degree in this profession help me have a better chance of landing a job out there with a kick ass portfolio?

jpatel
08-08-2011, 02:21 PM
Can you please add Champlain College, Burlington, VT to the list?

Information about our Game Art & Animation, Game Design and Game Programming majors can be found here: http://gamestudio.champlain.edu/

A gallery of student work is here: http://gamestudio.champlain.edu/work

Thanks.

garou3d
09-14-2011, 05:50 AM
any info on latinamerica? also do u know of more options in Texas? since i live very close to Texas, it would be my first option

SarahDoodles
09-24-2011, 08:05 PM
I personally attended the Savannah College of Art and Design. It's just way too expensive and no help. Why should someone take out loans for over $3,000 per class (3 classes per 10 week quarter) only to not be able to get a job when they graduate? Average cost is over $30,000 a year. I never should have gone.

Expect to work 40 - 60 hrs outside of class time so if you're poor like me good luck juggling a job. Parking is a nightmare as there is no real campus (just a bunch of renovated buildings throughout Savannah), and crime is high against SCAD students. Cops love to bust them for anything and the locals won't like you by the way. I had a drug dealer with a gun knock on my door when I was living in the dorms offering uppers. If you sign a contract to live on campus you will have no choice but to live there for three consecutive quarters. I got TWO staph infections, had my room broken into and had my personal information stolen. SCAD has their own cops - so nothing was done. I had to freeze my accounts and flag my information with the three credit bureaus. They charge around $600/month per student and you can get cheaper rent off-campus from the slum lords.

My overall experience was nothing but stress, sleep deprivation and regret. Ten weeks in my opinion is not enough time to learn these complicated programs. There is also a lack of student help with job searches, base salary pay/pay negotiation, and job placement. Only five students had jobs when my class graduated (2009) and I still haven't been able to find a job. I was ignored by some of the male instructors and don't understand why they taught programs like Shake when the industry was switching to Nuke. Mental Ray when V-Ray was the render preference, etc.

I suppose if you already know the programs you'll be better off but I didn't know any of them. If you are interested in college heavily research who VSFX/ game companies hire from. I still don't have any idea how to apply for jobs in the industry. I hated my experience and wish I had never gone. If you come from working/ middle class then don't go. SCAD is all about the money and I've heard nothing from my former instructors and I'm treated as if I don't exist. You'll be deep in debt and have no way out! I can't vouch for any of the other colleges listed here but through my horrible personal experience I won't recommend SCAD.

I have had a great amount of help from the forums of the programs I am learning though and I think it's a good idea to research job titles, programs and figure out what you want to do. I love Lynda.com, Digital Tutors, 3D World magazine, and Gnomon DVDs. If there is an in depth question the forums are the best route to go. I hope I've saved one more person from getting hopelessly into debt and having a terrible experience. The people on the forums are courteous, technical wizards that give helpful critiques. I'm a forum junkie now and proud of it! I have also heard of people being hired based on their portfolios so I'm going to put mine together and see if I can finally get a job - without SCAD!

Zarathustra
09-26-2011, 02:21 PM
Some of those issues all schools share. Higher education is expensive. On-campus housing is generally more expensive than what you can find on your own (especially if you have some friends and share a place). All schools have their own security, however that shouldn't mean police are completely absent.

Now as for an education, it shouldn't be merely a vo-tech experience, meaning there's far more than just 'How to Operate Maya' courses. Yes, you can get that stuff via books and videos. What a school is for is teaching the intangibles like problem solving, critical thinking, broad concepts so that the tools are just that, tools, means to an end not the ends. If you understand the underlying concepts, you should be able to get up to speed with a new tool relatively quickly. Most tutorials are like recipes. They teach what to do but not necessarily why. The whys are what schools are for. The analogy I always make is the art section of any bookstore. There's always the How to Draw Portraits, How to Draw Trees, How to Draw Puppies, etc. If you learn the fundamentals of drawing, you should be able to draw anything. That's what a good education should be about.

SarahDoodles
09-26-2011, 05:19 PM
Zarathustra you have missed my point and I'll try to explain further if that's all right with you. I understand and agree with your assessment but my experience was not good for reasons I'll try to explain more in depth. One of many issues with SCAD was with the fact that I had an instructor learning a program at the same time they were teaching it.

Quite frankly if you're learning a program either on your own or through a high priced private college you have to cover the basics. Our instructors skipped over the basics and your curriculum is do four tutorials from the book before Monday. Turn your tutorials in, repeat. By the middle of the course (5 weeks in) you'll get a project but it might be your first or maybe your second. You'll spend time with other students and learn from tutorials on the main drive. What are those tutorials? Gnomon tutorials on the basics; modeling, animation, texturing, etc.. This is why I like tutorials because that's how I had to learn. I didn't get to ask many questions let alone have them answered. I also spent more time talking to and solving problems with other students. We were all in the same boat.

That being said there were some instructors who failed to cover the basics period. While students are obviously learning a great deal outside of class by working on a project instructors are there to guide their education. They aren't entirely responsible for the student's education but my frustration came from the fact that my classes weren't well though-out. I asked questions about Python programming syntax and the instructor just told the class a joke instead and moved on. This happened repeatedly and I couldn't take some classes with other instructors because I had to work! Where was my money going then? What is the point of spending an absurd amount of money and getting into debt if you aren't getting out of it what you put into it? I repeatedly asked and complained to no avail. This is a serious problem. If you're going to charge an arm and a leg at least screen and hire people who have a clue on how to write code, composite, and every other facet required for an education in the degree you want to earn. Notice I didn't say purchase.

The police force did nothing and if you called the Savannah Police Department they told you they couldn't help you. Period. There was no report, no officer to talk to and or record of the problem. Now if a SCAD student was ARRESTED that was a different matter entirely. I had my dorm room broken into and nothing was done. The report I have a copy of blames me - even though my door was locked and I took proper precautions. I have also opened my door to a knock expecting a friend and finding an armed drug dealer instead asking if I wanted to purchase any uppers or downers. Now let me remind everyone here, that the "cops" at their stations by the gates and other entrances were REQUIRED to ask for ID from all students. Do you think that cop was doing their job? Dealers frequented the campus which were touted as safe to concerned parents and my first room mate flunked out due to drug addiction. I complained and as usual nothing was done about her purchasing drugs - or the dealer on campus who sold them to her. I pointed him out to the rent-a-cop and they shrugged their shoulders. That is why I was angry when I tried to leave the dorms to be told I'd be stuck there two more quarters with armed drug dealers allowed to roam on campus.

The environment is also a factor. Students have limited resources and have to compete in a cut throat market. Your style is your own, your skills are yours to develop - but the college you choose should be there to maximize your potential and show you how to effectively market your skills. I had no help in the latter and I'm fed up with colleges that claim it's easy to get a job and yet when asked how don't bother with explanations as to how it's actually done.

In the criticism of tutorials you stated that they don't cover enough. In fact the difference in tools and their use in appropriate situations is exactly what I learned from tutorials. Examples on how to use nurbs and polygons were NEVER explained to me in class even when I asked! Some people will never be able to afford college and they may have the traditional art skills but not the funds. Gnomon tutorials go in depth about how and why you use certain tools as does Lynda. Have you used tutorials and if so, which ones disappointed you? Have you tried others? Most of the authors are open to constructive criticism and if you aren't a creative problem solver before you go to college you can't necessarily be taught this. I've been a problem solver as we all have since birth but creative problem solving skills for jobs just can't always be taught. Careers don't come with a manual. If you have to solve a problem on the spot you can either do it or you can't.

While I agree that not all tutorials are great and that college should be there to offer what books and tutorials supposedly don't offer I was fed up and frustrated with a system that just doesn't work.

I have to point out the fact my educational experience lacked the reasons you pointed out to attend a college to begin with. The high price tag was there and access to some of the industry tools but underlying concepts, the hows and whys of tool use, very basic but vital information/tools were missing.

If an instructor can't answer a question of the student then ask yourself why are they teaching? There are always a few bad apples in with good ones and SCAD does have some amazing instructors. I got tired of the faculty in my degree area coming and going through the building like a revolving door. I also found it confusing that some of the technical direction instructors were able to answer any question you could come up with from basic to complex. When I ask the same of an instructor in an intro to Maya class I'm left with "Um.... I dunno." as a reply. If a student doesn't learn the basics or, like me, had to learn them on their own I have to wonder why I spent so much time and money (I had to borrow with interest) going to an expensive class. If I have to learn it by myself why pay the instructor? I would have loved to have taken the more challenging classes and skipped the basic ones since I had to learn it through books, tutorials, and friends. Most of my basic courses weren't taught by good instructors and you get really tired of tutorials where the speaker has an accent. You can't ask a tutorial about your project, but I often couldn't ask the instructor either!

That's why I take issue with SCAD being hailed as an excellent college. I didn't get what I paid for or invested my work and time in. I attended the extra work sessions with the teachers. I went to extra activities and presentations. My problem was working through college while the rich kids didn't have to. Many of these helpful sessions where there when I had to work. I remember all the work I did only to realize that I still love the work - but hated the college.

I should have gone elsewhere but there was no list to be found when I was scouring for information. I had only heard and read about SCAD and Vancouver Film School. Going to college out of country was far beyond my budget. With hindsight I would have gone elsewhere or not at all. There are plenty of people without degrees with successful careers and to have that instead of debt is a trade off I'd enjoy. But now I'll work to get a job, but with debt I have found not to be worth the cost. I wish my education had been better and I hope it's not the same for everyone else. SCAD leaves much to be desired and is covered with too much glitz and glamor to be practical in my opinion.

I wish it had been as you describe an ideal college experience but unfortunately I didn't get what I paid and worked for. I think if I had been more detailed in my explanation you wouldn't have had to make your statement of the obvious.

Thank you for your input Zarathustra.

Zarathustra
09-26-2011, 05:36 PM
I feel creative problem solving can be taught. It's not a 'you have it or you don't' ability. Most tutorials, video or book, are project driven and have you following a recipe without always explaining why. I find that problematic, but sure, if you're resourceful you can perhaps work out the whys on your own with further research and/or experimentation.

One dirty little secret of academia is not having enough faculty to cover the courses offered. That means adjuncts are needed, which are either outsiders or grad students. You might have gotten nearly all the adjuncts. I don't know, but your description of a typical class is troubling and that's one guess as to why.

Imo, some programs are merely for portfolio refinement (or at least that's the majority emphasis) and as such, the students they get are not beginners. I don't want to name names, but search through this section and you'll see the same recurring names. It may be worth it at some point for you to consider a year at a place like that to help get you primed and polished for an industry job.

Best wishes.

SarahDoodles
09-26-2011, 11:25 PM
I have yet to see creative problem solving taught. I have seen problem solving taught but as far as creative - it's just not there. People in that school stumbled in the creative arena while some were technical wizards. It's hard to combine the two in some areas. The compositing instructor had worked in the industry for ten years but had not used Shake. After I learned Shake the industry preference changed to Nuke. They didn't have any graduate students teaching courses but they were occasionally in class as student teachers. Student teachers rarely taught but were there if the instructor had to attend a conference. Those classes were usually work days with the student teacher to assist.

As far as tutorials only providing a recipe that's just being lazy on the student's part. I learned from the tutorials which tools were used to refine a project or if it could be used in broad strokes. I don't know what you have against tutorials but if college is yet again too expensive at least it's better than nothing. The programs I've been working in to "polish and prime" my work don't require yet another over priced college. I can't afford it period either "on line" (an internet rip off in my opinion) or spending the money I don't have to move. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt there was better place for me to learn at but at this point it's too little too late. I'll either have my portfolio refined in time and have a studio call me up for an interview or I just won't get a job. That is assuming my idea of applying for a job in the industry is anywhere close to the way people actually apply for jobs.

The students at SCAD are beginners and the Intro to Maya, Intro to Photoshop, etc. classes are proof of that. If the student you are sitting next to has no knowledge of the program you are going to be using, I'd say we all started as beginners. I wish I had been able to transfer to another college but I only knew of Vancouver Film School and just couldn't afford it. I've read through the threads but I don't know which schools you have referred to.

Thank you for your best wishes but I know that hard work and skill have a lot more to do
with it.

saks27
10-17-2011, 05:12 PM
I am in the Texas A&M University Visualization undergrad program. It is a great program that doesn't really tell you what buttons to press to make cool things, but how to communicate visually. The best thing about it is its balance of technical and non-technical skills that it helps you develop. Most people, from places like Dreamworks, Pixar and LucasFilm, that I've talked to that come here to recruit say that our curriculum is perfect for people who want to be Technical Directors.

http://vvvvvv.viz.tamu.edu/

You should put it on the list!

memol58
12-27-2011, 10:01 AM
anyone Can give me more information about UCLA Animation workshop If it is good or not?
http://animation.filmtv.ucla.edu/index.html

echun
01-03-2012, 04:08 AM
Thanks for the summation's. Does anyone know which school is better to learn economy? :bowdown:

mehdift
02-19-2012, 08:41 AM
hey thanks for this helpful posts...it would have been great if you mentioned those universities which have MASTER programs as well... :D


thanks anyway

taxguy
02-19-2012, 08:45 PM
The only ones with grad programs that I am aware of are as follows in no particular order:

1. AAU
2. Sheridan
3. RIT
4. UCLA
5. USC
6. SVA
7. Pratt
8.SCAD
9. CMU in entertainment design only
10. Dupaul
11. Cal arts for experimental animation only
12. SAIC for experimental animation only

mehdift
02-20-2012, 01:34 PM
hey taxguy thank you so much for the info... will update this thread if i find anything usefull.. :)

cg-masters
03-23-2012, 08:10 PM
There is a brand new Digital Arts School located 20 minutes outside Vancouver:

CG Masters Academy http://academy.cg-masters.com
-One year (3 semester) Diploma in Digital Animation and Visual Effects.
-Operated and instructed by industry masters.

robtasker
04-19-2012, 02:07 PM
Durham College (Ontario, Canada) also has a few good courses.

Game Development
http://www.durhamcollege.ca/programs/game-development/

Animation
http://www.durhamcollege.ca/programs/animation-digital-arts-two-year/
(can go for a 3 year advanced diploma)

and VFX (post grad)
http://www.durhamcollege.ca/programs/vfx-and-digital-cinema-graduate-certificate/

fig
04-19-2012, 10:31 PM
taxguy, Texas A&M University also offers a Masters in Visualization Sciences. A lot of students out of that program have gone on to be TDs at ILM, Dreamworks, and Pixar.

AGAD
06-07-2012, 09:55 PM
Can we add to the list a new animation school Animation Collaborative (http://www.animationcollaborative.com/) ?
They provide in-person, small in size (8-16) group workshops. They are located just across from Pixar in Emeryville, CA. Instructors are from Pixar and are very thorough in their critiques. They really dedicated to provide quality education and each session is full of TON of information.
More information is on their website http://www.animationcollaborative.com/

ivanquerino
06-14-2012, 11:40 AM
ADS - AnimArt Digital School

Sγo Paulo - Brazil

www.ads.art.br

facebook.com/animartds

MrPositive
06-18-2012, 05:35 PM
Hi everyone, I'd love to add all your schools to the list but apparently a post has a maximum character count enlisted. I'll have to ask about this and get back to everyone ok. Hopefully we can get all your respective schools up in time.

ShepherdUnivCA
07-30-2012, 06:44 PM
Hello,

I'm writing from Shepherd University (Los Angeles, CA).

1. If you'd like to list our school, we would greatly appreciate it:
http://bit.ly/SUIT2012Programs

Please note, we are working on a better website with a student gallery. Our program is just a few years old, but we have a great faculty of working professionals and a brand new high-tech facility that will open in a few months in Glendale.

2. To attract more students and build our program, we are offering some really great scholarships (up to a full ride!) in 4 categories: 3D Animation & Visual Effects, 2D Animation & Flash Animation, Game Art & Design, and Game Production. Entries will be accepted Aug 6-10, 2012. The info for that is here: http://bit.ly/SUIT2012contest

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to send me a PM.

Is this the best thread for me to post in? Please re-direct or let me know if there's a better place to post. thanks! :)

-Christine

Karnart
10-18-2012, 03:13 AM
There's a new school that opened up in Brazil that is like an offspring from Gnomon in LA. It's called Axis.

Seems like Gnomon and a local school teamed up to open this school for south americans though the classes are mostly taught in english.


http://axis.art.br/

rufiorufio
02-12-2013, 02:48 AM
What about Lost Boys and Think Tank? they are both in Canada and better then some of the others you mentioned.

http://www.lostboys-studios.com/

memol58
02-12-2013, 02:06 PM
Hello,

I'm writing from Shepherd University (Los Angeles, CA).

1. If you'd like to list our school, we would greatly appreciate it:
http://bit.ly/SUIT2012Programs

Please note, we are working on a better website with a student gallery. Our program is just a few years old, but we have a great faculty of working professionals and a brand new high-tech facility that will open in a few months in Glendale.

2. To attract more students and build our program, we are offering some really great scholarships (up to a full ride!) in 4 categories: 3D Animation & Visual Effects, 2D Animation & Flash Animation, Game Art & Design, and Game Production. Entries will be accepted Aug 6-10, 2012. The info for that is here: http://bit.ly/SUIT2012contest

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to send me a PM.

Is this the best thread for me to post in? Please re-direct or let me know if there's a better place to post. thanks! :)

-Christine



Dear Christine,

your links do not work! I am so eager to have more information about Shepherd University.


Thank you

BigLou
02-20-2013, 10:04 PM
Hello!

I just wanted to say thank you for posting such an extensive list of schools here! Very helpful to aspiring students doing their research on all the options in terms of location, tuition, and the quality of one's portfolio upon graduation. Lots to learn here, cheers!

popflier
02-21-2013, 09:16 PM
I know that I had mentioned the school I went to and you guys added it, but I'd like to request now that you remove it from your list.


University of Colorado at Denver Digital Animation Center - Denver CO
http://www.cu3d.org/
Gallery: http://www.cu3d.org/studentGallery.html
4 year BFA
Tuition: http://www.cu3d.org/tuition.html



I didn't realize until after I had graduated exactly how little they taught us. I spent close to $120,000 for my BA in 3D Animation, because even though I am a resident of Colorado the school charges private rates for this program. When I started to apply for work I realized that I didn't have the skills needed in order to get a job in any aspect of 3D. The school essentially gives you a small overview of different areas of 3D, but there's no focus. They do not teach you any classes for rendering or post-production. It's great to be able to model and texture something, but if you can't render it then there's an issue. We were not taught how to optimize scenes, baking textures, and in fact no one (not even the teachers) could successfully bake out a displacement map and render a model so that it that didn't have seam problems. There was only one teacher who cared and he was also the director of the program. The others never bothered to come in after hours to help the students. I learned more from one guy in my class than I did from most of the teachers. In fact, this same student was asked to teach our class how to use ZBrush because none of the teachers knew how to use it. None of them cared to even try and learn it. When I had difficulty with a model and didn't know how to work around some of the topology issues and asked the modeling teacher for help he told me that he didn't know how to make it work either. I spent an additional year after graduation working on that model and trying to figure out how to make it work. In the end I did and I sent my former teacher a copy of it so he could see the solution. He didn't care though. Once you are out of the school and no longer giving them money they really don't care at all about you.

I would hate to have someone have the same experience as I did and realize that they wasted their money and was better off going to a different school or teaching themselves. On paper the school looks great, but looks can be deceiving. In this case that is entirely true.

tehFoist
02-22-2013, 10:48 PM
The bit about Dev Studios is a little outdated. Just finishing up the 3D Animation Diploma there, now known as Pixel Blue.

Domain - http://pixelbluecollege.com
Diploma Programs - http://pixelbluecollege.com/diploma-programs
Gallery - http://pixelbluecollege.com/gallery

Ievans2013
04-30-2013, 08:46 PM
Raleigh North Carolina
Living arts College
http://www.living-arts-college.edu/
3 year Bachelor
1.800.288.7442

LOR
06-15-2013, 03:47 PM
CG Masters School of 3D Animation and Visual Effects
www.cg-masters.com

This is a new school with a new take on digital animation and visual effects training. In the old days it used to be enough to sit a student at a computer and train them in software. Today, that will never get you a job. You need industry professionals showing you the ropes, preparing you for the industry and providing you with the knowledge, experience and philosophy you will need to survive and thrive in today's industry. CG Masters was formed by a group of veteran industry pros who see that this isn't happening, but needs to. If you are serious, motivated, passionate and committed to a career, it's worth putting CG Masters on your school research list.

lor
Nicholas Boughen
CG Masters

sylvie51
06-21-2013, 11:33 AM
This is really a great and helpful post. I got to know some new institutes from this informative post.

muccu09
08-03-2013, 03:19 PM
Hi iam thinking to do Visual effect program from seneca college. I am a high school pass out and have a diploma in 3d and vfx and also 3 years work experience. Am i eligible for this course ? or i have to a bachelor degree for this course ?
Help me

banzato
11-19-2013, 07:59 PM
Tonka3D is now offering a new collection and course in english, what you think?

http://www.tonka3d.com/total-image-collection.html

RiaFX
12-30-2013, 02:49 AM
Could you please add Lost Boys - School of Visual Effects (http://www.lostboys-studios.com) . WE are the only dedicated VFX School here in Canada.

Please and thank you.

daniellemorrison
03-19-2014, 10:18 AM
really this is a very helpful Post