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DerrickSong 03-21-2009, 05:55 PM hi, this is my sketch for the demon prince character. I draw this out by today and i need to come out different idea first before reach to the final stage. I like dragon and i decide to give him some dragon elements on the armor and leg structure, he is a demon dragon knight. Search for inspirations... any comments and critics are welcome.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince01.jpg
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Alekzsander
03-21-2009, 06:26 PM
great concept DerrickSong. i hope to see more .
see you
OvidiusTiberius
03-21-2009, 09:30 PM
Well it's a powerful start.Wait to see how it evolves.
Greger
03-21-2009, 09:53 PM
Nice, very nice. I like the idea of him having elements of a dragon. Its a great mix of human and dragon shapes right now. Keep it up :)
DeadInTheAttic
03-22-2009, 01:19 AM
Resembles a bit one of the generals portraits during the MiniCon.
Very powerful.
DerrickSong
03-22-2009, 05:59 AM
thanks for the compliments from you guys, glad that u like it! Here is another update of my demon character.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince02.jpg
ShogunWarrior
03-22-2009, 06:10 AM
very nice sketches. Alot of detailing and has a unique class of its own, good work, can't wait to see this one completed..
namnocilis
03-22-2009, 06:11 AM
Great start! the two little horns near the neck is adding more power to its silhouette..
ersinerturk
03-22-2009, 06:32 AM
your drawing skills are insane. nice details on your character and i liked second pose very much. keep it coming!
DerrickSong
03-22-2009, 01:32 PM
hi, i try to do another sketch of demon knight, however i m not satisfy with this idea, i wish to think a unique demon knight with new look design, i will do another one...
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince03_01.jpg
NavigatorJones
03-22-2009, 02:07 PM
I really like the horns and bones and such in the details, maybe you could make him a lil less beefy, and get more of the sinews and bone into his shape, rather than the muscle?
DerrickSong
03-22-2009, 04:37 PM
hi NavigatorJones, thanks for your comments, i will take note on it and try to use it for the next update!
small update :
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince03_02.jpg
wenart
03-22-2009, 05:00 PM
nice one, I like the last sketch :D
namnocilis
03-22-2009, 05:21 PM
ya.. the last sketch is much better than the rest :thumbsup:
DerrickSong
03-24-2009, 04:18 AM
Thanks for the nice comments from wenart and namnocilis, i also prefer the last sketch, i had spent some time on the head design to make it more like a dragon. After few round of concept sketch, think i need to pick out some points on each sketch to combine the idea together, so the points of view from you guys are appreaciated! I start late on this competitions, now i have to shorten my schedule...wish i got enough time.
here is another sketch of idea... for this one, i want to draw three dragon/snake head surround him. I get the idea from the cgsociety logo, and also try to put in some basic shape from the cgsociety logo on to his helmet and body shoulder to get a better silhouette. The weapons is still under first stage, need to modify abit.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince08.jpg
GaeasHerald
03-24-2009, 05:03 AM
Sketches look amazing Derrick, but I see what DeadInTheAttic means. I think it would favor you to take a greater departure from the minicomp general. Unless you're going for a follow up of it, which may be interesting as well.
Good luck.
DerrickSong
03-24-2009, 05:39 AM
GaeasHerald - thanks for reminds me on it, it is probatly my big issue to get it off from my entry in the mini competitions : http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DW4/mini_challenge1_colour6.jpg
i think mostly is because of my drawing style and the face expresion look similliar, em...tonight i will figure out how to break it or keep follow up with it.
FrozZT
03-24-2009, 10:39 AM
Hi! I really like your last design. I also like how his tail is attached a bit higher than expected on his spine in the past drawings. You have some nice stuff to work with right now, just keep on pushing it further without making it to busy! Keep it up!
-Niklas
Sepulverture
03-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Nice sketches :)
Cool designs, just don't go too crazy with the detail I think. Still early on and should play with shapes a little more before getting so finite in detailing :)
MartinNielsen
03-24-2009, 12:41 PM
Very nice drawings :thumbsup: For my taste I wouldn't add so many sharp things on the armor though. But the overall design looks great.
BaronImpossible
03-24-2009, 01:48 PM
Wow, some great concepts! The pose is #6 is excellent, also #10, and the armour in #15 is yummy. Keep it up!
syrez-one
03-24-2009, 02:46 PM
heya, nice sketches really, i like the dynamic flow .. armors pretty cool! the design has some likeness with you mini entry, but i like the style alot!! keep it comin'!
cylstudio81
03-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Hi Derrick, nice work, keep pushing it you have lots of interesting ideas going on there, looking forward to your final product ;)
APD-Jack
03-24-2009, 05:48 PM
Hi derricksong.
I adore your sketches :buttrock:You'r going on the right way i think.
It's just, if you wanna give it's armour more dragon look, i think you should try to add some scales (like dragon scales) instead of this much spikes.
Congrats
Keep it up :thumbsup:
QuantumPixel
03-24-2009, 07:48 PM
Wow cool and interesting the body structure between our concepts are very simalar. Yours of course has allot more details and with it being only 2d that is good . I like it. very cool man, I like the head cover the most I think. I am going with a dragon theme to.
DerrickSong
03-25-2009, 05:17 PM
hi, thanks for the comments.
FrozZT - thanks, glad that you like the spine design, i will try to use it for the next sketch.
Sepulverture - hi, you are right, right now i m trying to play with basic shape first to get a different look of my prince.
MartinNielsen - thank you very much! :)
BaronImpossible - really appreciate your comments, thanks a lot!
syrez-one - thanks, i will try to break the likeness from my mini competition entry, change change change...
cylstudio81 - thanks man, hope to see your demon lord finish soon!
APD-Jack - your comments really help me, will take note on it and apply it on my next update! thanks.
QuantumPixel - hi, thanks for your compliments, i m changing the overall shape, think the final one will be look different. I wish you good luck for your 3d entry!
here is my update, after played with some basic shape, i decide to choice the shape D to develop on my demon prince. I wish to give him a totally new look from my previews sketch, atleast from the sillhoutte it look different...To keep him on the same demon race, i only use the human structure on his face and upper body, the lower body part i mix it with other organic structure. And off course, i use back one of my previews sketch on the upper body which i think is quite suitable for this demon.
done for today, feel tired....and good luck to everybody.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince_form1.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince10.jpg
kashivan
03-25-2009, 05:30 PM
wow!!!
cool character!!!
lovely sketches :) keep it up man! :applause:
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DerrickSong
03-26-2009, 01:46 AM
kashivan - thanks man, i like your demon design and your sketching style also, wish to see more from you.
DerrickSong
03-27-2009, 11:18 AM
here is my small update on the demon, i had changed the face look, different structure on his left arm and add eye on his bottom body part, thanks for viewing, any c&c are welcome.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince12.jpg
kashivan
03-27-2009, 11:34 AM
DerrickSong - yo man!concept looks cool!
I wait for the further development of a theme :wavey::thumbsup:
DerrickSong
03-27-2009, 04:40 PM
kashivan - hi man, glad that you like it, thanks!
After look back at the rules for demon classes, i m not sure my last idea sketch is still under the right category- demon prince which need human-like or alien-like characteristics. Because i only keep the face and upper body look like human, I wish it is still under demon prince category, if not i may need reconsider which category it belongs to, what you guys think?
rhemrev
03-27-2009, 10:12 PM
Hey derrick! Thought I'd drop by in your thread aswell, and man, you really have a nice and solid style! Reading some of the comments, I agree with them that you should try to break away from the stuff you submitted in the minicomp, and try to get a new perspective on things.
You might even want to consider something drastic, like switching your character from male to female, or even switching classes. Also, I browsed through your portfolio, and noticed a heavy emphasis on asian characters, features and culture...which makes me want you to forbid doing anything that has to do with anything asian! :D Basically, just for the sake of exploring other directions and prevent you repeating yourself. Nevertheless, I'm confident you'll work it out, and will defenitely keep following your progress!
By the way, I really dig those almost abstract thumbs, I've never seen someone do thumbs like this! If possible could you post some Wip images between that thumb and the linesketch that followed? And is it all digital? Just curious! :D
Cheers,
-Edwin
Hey Derrick
Awesome sketches, awesome concepts! awesome work!! :D Like a lot the idea of the mixed body on your last sketches, really great. Dig the last face, really cool. Maybe you can give a try, for the lower body, to a scorpion shape, only a wish :D Again, superb work!! Cant wait for more updates!! Cheers!! :beer:
DerrickSong
03-28-2009, 08:40 AM
rhemrev - hi Edwin, thanks for your feedback, you've given me some helpful points which i will take note and apply for my concept art soon. You had mentioned to change the character from male to female, which i think this is a very good idea, i never think to draw a female character before....Actually i m trying hard to change my character style from my first post till the last one, i wish to find out a suitable and new style for this competitions, and therefore i appreciate your suggestions on my art work.
As for the thumbsnail to the sketch, others had asked the same question as well, so i did a progress gif file for the new character. i drew it on photoshop, and it is fully digital
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/progress2.gif
Ferx - hi thanks a lot man, i m glad that you like it, i will try hard to work on it, and this is my new concept sketch
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince13.jpg
vegasmike
03-28-2009, 11:24 AM
Hi Derrick, great work so far! I saw you were exploring shapes and I just recently found this program that may help you... Great for generating random shapes etc, check it out and keep up the good work!
http://al.chemy.org/
DerrickSong
03-29-2009, 11:27 AM
vegasmike - hi, thanks man, the program you introduce to me is really a great tool for generating random shapes!!:applause:
Here is my small update on another sketch, i decided to make him ride on a demon and combine a snake on his left arm, hope you like it, thanks.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/demon_prince15.jpg
Nikolay
03-29-2009, 01:43 PM
Great sketching, i like body datails. Good luck!)
Zephyri
03-29-2009, 04:31 PM
Lovely sketches in this thread, and I'm digging the way the last few sketches are heading. Not sure he still counts as a demon prince, as you mention.. maybe he could be reclassed as a norm of some description? He almost has a warlordish feel to him, if you could beef him out a bit more, and make the lower part of him some kind of steed?
But your technique is lovely, i envy your smooth linework to say it's digital!
namnocilis
03-29-2009, 05:17 PM
wow! the concept has changed a lot from what i had seen before.. the last sketch is awesome! but i think that gill kind of thing on his back is making it feel like a norm, i suppose
i even liked the sketch on post 29 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5770783&postcount=29)
Great progress in the evolution of concept!
lefoosh
03-29-2009, 11:42 PM
hey, really like the balance you've got in your character, the natural / flesh vs mechanical / armoured sections work really well.
I dont think he needs to get any 'beefier' as he's only a prince and he has got a regal feel to his pose. i think you just need to take him darker, more evil, with more tentacles or maybe some sort of trophy rack...?
Hexahedron
03-30-2009, 12:21 AM
I love how you are developing your character. Its looks great. Keep it up man!
Cheers
kashivan
03-30-2009, 12:48 AM
All is better and better! :p
go go go! :)
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DeadInTheAttic
04-03-2009, 11:36 AM
I think, you have got already several sketches for other illustrations.
But I would not care that much about the rules according to the look of his upper part or the part below. For I think, demons might be mixed up with other creatures in their evolution under demonic influence. So being one half human-like, the other half already converted.
DerrickSong
04-05-2009, 04:44 AM
Nikolay - thanks a lot, glad that you like it, i will keep the body detail for the final sketch.
Zephyri - thanks for your comments, i will consider your suggestion as well. :)
namnocilis - hi, thanks man, i will think about it...
lefoosh - i know what you means here, he really need some dark and evil feeling, thanks.
Hexahedron - thanks very much!
kashivan - hi, thanks again for your comments! :) wish you good luck as well.
DeadInTheAttic - hi, thanks for your feedback, you have a strong points here and you make me undecided right now....hah, anyway really aprreciate for all of the suggestion and time to viewing it.:cool:
after few rounds sketchs development, i think it is time for me to make the final design and process to the model sketch.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/model_sketch1.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l180/derrick_song/DWIV_2d/model_sketch2.jpg
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