DWIV - 3D - Silkcats - DemonAbomination

[rodia]

EO!!! hi mate! yes, i speak to you in english :D
Good luck and have a nice weekend! mierda mierda!
cuidate!

[Silkcats]

Ha ha ha!! Allez les sans papiers!!! ha ha ha!!

[FrozZT]

Hey! Haha, that sketch is awesome! :p He couldnt look better in those shorts.. haha.. Very nice start, welcome and good luck! :)

-Niklas

[DTRAN]

Jesuse murphy! Thats one creepy looking character! Love it!

[Silkcats]

Ok, so here I go with the first version of my Abomination, I hope you like it :) !

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/575/demonabominationleftlow.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonabominationleftlow.jpg)

(http://g.imageshack.us/img15/demonabominationleftlow.jpg/1/)

[Silkcats]

@DTRAN: He really looks like Jesus Murphy! ha ha ha!!

[Silkcats]

Ok, so here is the second version of my abomination, I added lots of eyes because I wasn't convinced with the first I did.. mmm...but now I think there is too many of them... What do you think?

Cheers! :)

(http://g.imageshack.us/img4/demonabomination02leftl.jpg/1/)http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5526/demonabomination02leftl.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonabomination02leftl.jpg)

(http://g.imageshack.us/img4/demonabomination02leftl.jpg/1/)

[Soggyclog]

I love all of these... I like seeing the eyes in the last one. If you think it's too much, maybe make the biggest one a little smaller?

[Silkcats]

Thanks for your comment Soggyclog ;) as you can see I finally took the eye off and now I think I looks more creepy and disgusting :P
Well, I'm really tired now so I'm going to bed....zzzzzz

Good night everyone and please make more comments !!

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2225/demonabomination03leftl.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonabomination03leftl.jpg)

[Soggyclog]

Hehe yeah that gaping hole for an eye is definately creepy :) Love it.

[Alekzsander]

:) looks like a fish with legs :) maybe a little more agresive

[GaeasHerald]

Good lord that's so weird. I simply love it. Fits the abomination profile perfectly.

[Silkcats]

Alekzsander:

:) Yes, In fact I wanted to evoke the smell of the rotten fish and I think I'm going to put some big claws on the front legs to make it more aggressive, thanks for the observation ;)

GaeasHerald:

thanks for your comment ;) yes it's really wierd ha ha!!, In fact is a mix of all the things that disgust me like cockroaches, spiders, nasal hair, fish parasites plus the mix of rejection and indiference on the face. I'm glad you like it ;)

[Silkcats]

So here is the front view for my abomination, I hope you like it ;)


http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1492/demonabomination01front.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonabomination01front.jpg)

[inqy]

Haha, wow, skeletal fish. It's different. I like it! :D

[Silkcats]

Hey, that's a good a name for my abomination! ha ha!!

[questionmarks]

I like the head very much...^^
just a thought...maybe can have some special stuff in the mouth...
cause it might be a waste with such big head..

[Silkcats]

I agree with you, in fact I think I'm going to put back the tongue parasite from the fisrt sketch and maybe another row of teeths like sharks...

[Silkcats]

I finished the side view of the "Skeletal Fish" and now I'm going to start working an the creature who's going to be on the top riding it. I'm thinking on some sort of little demon like Hyeronimus Bosch style and I will also add the parasite on the tongue.


http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8647/demonabomination04leftl.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonabomination04leftl.jpg)

(http://g.imageshack.us/img205/demonabomination04leftl.jpg/1/)

[FrozZT]

Wow man! This is awesome, really.. Im glad you are gonna put something on his back again, becouse his composition felt kind of emty without it. I dont think you've pulled of the front view really, i imagine something much more interesting and dynamic from the side. It just doesnt look like the same creature. And I'm a freak for movement through figures. Like between the front leg and the second form the left(sideview) the first leg is positioned very nicely in relation to the one beside it, then its almost three of the same in a row, maybe spice up some angles and levels on at least one or two of the rest pairs. Just a tiny detail, works quite fine as it is also. Man i kinda get scared looking at it to long :p. Good job! Keep it up!

-Niklas

[Silkcats]

You are right, maybe I will take out the second or the third pair of legs and that way I will have more space for the character that is going to be on top, what do think?

[LiquorArt]

Oh! fantastic ugly face! that realy cool! I like it so much.

waiting to see the rider , if you will have it.

[blake1999]

nice feel on this one.. wtf indeed as the guy says. Only critique is that the legs feel too short like they are missing a segment. Its working tho.

[MartinNielsen]

That's an ugly bastard! In a good way :thumbsup: Great design work.

[Silkcats]

Thanks for the comments guys !!

I was a little worried about the polygon count of my creature so yesterday I started the modeling to see if I will have enough polygons for the skeletal fish, the parasite and the creature on the top.
I'm now working on the creature on the top so next update will be the sketches I'm making

blake1999: I added another segment to the legs to try and I I think It looks better now so thanks for the idea ;)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9436/render01.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=render01.jpg)

(http://g.imageshack.us/img186/render01.jpg/1/)

[aeonseraph]

when i looked at your drawings, the first thing that came into my mind is works of H.R.Giger.
I dunno why, perhaps because of your drawing style. :shrug:
Anyway, cool concepts. :thumbsup:
Keep up the good work, :beer:
And wish U Good luck in your creative process! :arteest:

[Silkcats]

Ok so here is my first attempt for the creature riding the skeletal fish, I like it but I think is not scary enough so I'm gonna try something bigger

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7163/demonontop01low.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonontop01low.jpg)

(http://g.imageshack.us/img210/demonontop01low.jpg/1/)

[Silkcats]

Hi everyone! Here is some Modeling of the Skeletal Fish that I didn't upload the other day...


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7484/skeletalfishztool01.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skeletalfishztool01.jpg)

[Silkcats]

...And here is the Creature who's gonna be on top, the little frog was really nice but this one is really ugly and I think he fits better with the Skeletal Fish... but this is not the final one cos' I think his face is not scary ennough so I'm working on a really demonic and scary one now...he he he!!

I hope you like it!

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9726/demonontop02low.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonontop02low.jpg)

[Ferx]

Hey Felipe,

Really cool sketches and concepts :D I really like the "Boxing fighter Abomination" hahahaha really great!!. Your fish abomination looks really cool!! Good luck and waiting for more updates on your concept! Cheers!! :beer:

P.S I open the 3 page of the thread!! :D deserve another beer yeaa :D Cheers!! :beer:

[Silkcats]

aeonseraph: I'm glad you like the concepts ;) I was fan of H.R. Giger work when I was a teenager a loooong time ago but at the end it was to obscure for me so then I moved to more friendly and colorfull artists. It's funny because it's been at least 10 years since the last time I did a monster or something like that so it's been really fun to go back to do this kind of stuff again!

Ferx: Thanks for your comment and for opening my third page !! Cheers for that! ;)

[namnocilis]

lol.. i like those funny looking Demons. The boxer guy and last update of the one holding flag is something that i like, it is like these demons are kinda cute n funny and we may be under the impression that they may not attack and feel sympathy towards them.. and then all of a sudden make a surprise attack.. which brings us to the fact that 'Appearances can be deceiving' :wise: wow!

i really liked the last sketch of the guy with flag riding on top of the fish, ya..it fits much better, generally we see scary looking features for demons everywhere but something like these are very rare, so don't be focused on making it look scarier.. i think you are heading in right direction, keep up to it.. All the best! :thumbsup: waiting for more updates..

[Silkcats]

So here is my demon after plastic surgery I think he's uglier than before, what do think?

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6793/demonontop04low.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonontop04low.jpg)

[Silkcats]

namnocilis: Thanks for your comment ;) Is difficult to make a scary character cos' it depends on each person's fears, in my case I put all the things that I found disgusting to make the character cos I when I imagine a Demon I think of something ugly and disproportioned rather than the "body builder" kind Demon.
I inspired myself in old japaneese demons and some ugly bat pictures to make the last face, what do think?


cheers! :beer:

[Silkcats]

Hi everyone!!

I moved to a new apartment last week so It's been a while since my last post. Now that I have my PC again I started modeling de base for the creature on top on 3DS Max so Hopefully I will start ZBrushing tomorrow finally!! :)

cheers!!

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8940/demonontopsideviewrende.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonontopsideviewrende.jpg)

[primativ]

This demon is much better, it reminds me of those old woodcuts from the middle ages.

Awesome concept so far, I agree these misshapen creatures are much scarier.

[samoht]

great concept. i really like the style of your character. I'm looking forward to updates :D keep it up.

Cheers !

[Silkcats]

Primativ: Thanks man! In fact some of my sources of inspiration for this creature were medieval paintings, I think those where the best demons of all times!
(Cool avatar btw!)

Samoht: Thanks man, I'm glad you like my concept ;) Please keep checking out my work ;)
Cheers!

[Silkcats]

After some busy days I finally got time to get back to my project so here is the base mesh in Max almost finished, Only the arms left and I'll be ready for sculpting!

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2775/renderdemon00.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderdemon00.jpg)

[PeterBraeley]

your sketches are very fun to look at it, quite enjoy them keep up the good work!!

[Ferx]

Hey Felipe,

The model is looking really cool , like the face of your character! great ! Waiting for more updates!! Cheers!! :beer:

[Silkcats]

Thanks Ferx!

I finally started with ZBrush!!

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6765/renderdemon01.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderdemon01.jpg)

[Silkcats]

First Max Render Test (No textures yet...)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9808/renderdemon05.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderdemon05.jpg)

[Silkcats]

Only 2 weeks left!! :S

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6040/renderdemon08lr.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderdemon08lr.jpg)

[domclubb]

i like the concept. Pretty freeky. Are you going to add anything else to it? It's just that i've seen some truly epic aboninations out there :) This one looks great though. Good luck.

[Silkcats]

Hey domclubb! Yes in fact this is the creature that is going to be riding the other one that looks like a dead fish with a human face, I'm working on that one now...

Cheers!!

[Silkcats]

And Finally Both Creatures together in one piece!

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2199/abominationtotal01.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=abominationtotal01.jpg)

[HausFly]

This could be the best demon I've seen this year, you definitely pulled of the "Hieronymus Bosch" vibe. Be sure to save plenty of time for normals projection and diffuse painting, those can take longer than expected. Also, the face on the little guy is the best thing ever.

[Silkcats]

Hey HausFly!

Thank you so much for your comment, it really cheer me up!!
You are right, the Painting is really fun to do but it can take a lot of time, the good thing is I already finished the UV's on the low poly model and the normals are looking great so far but I still have to finish painting, Shading, Lighting and Rendering plus the base for the model so is quite a lot of work for the 10 days left so I guess I'm not going to be sleepeng too much this week!

Cheers!!
:)

[Silkcats]

Ok, so this may be my last post :(
I have to quit my apartment this afternoon and I have nowhere to go so I guess my pc is going to be stored in some wharehouse until I find something... too bad :(

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8104/renderallabomination02.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderallabomination02.jpg)

[Stutts]

that's a shame man this is one of the coolest demon entries. hope you find a place, and then you can finish this beast. good luck!

[Silkcats]

Thanks Stutts! I found a solution at least for the next week so I'll just loose one day of work! :)
Anyway, here is my first 3DSmax Render No textures yet (and no normals for the little character)


Cheers!

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6379/renderallabomination03.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderallabomination03.jpg)

[Abrvpt]

Looks sweet ! You have an orgininal touch and the render is very nice, keep up !
And good luck for apartment issues. ;)

[Silkcats]

Thanks Abrvpt! I will keep posting as soon as I have my pc Assembled again!

cheers!

[StefanoDubay]

nice indeed! maybe reducing the eyes of the big guy would give some more contrast overall... but i know u on the gamemeshing now so u probably won't change it, th's more than understandeable! we gotta finish these

[StrongRum]

This is looking really cool dude...I like your design... the normal map seems to have come out really well on the fish/crustacean creature... good luck in getting it finished in time... I don't know if I will be able to?!

[FrozZT]

Hey man! :)

I really really hope you finish this! Its very interesting and terrifying. I'm really glad also that you're not trying to do what everyone else does, original work! Looking forward to your final! ;) Keep going! :)

-Niklas

[Ataulfo]

Great character.

i like a lot how the 2 creatures looks together.
keep it up:beer:

[Silkcats]

Thanks Ataulfo! It took me a while to put them together but finally here they are!!

[Silkcats]

Finally I'm done with the sculpting and normals so now I'm ready to start painting the textures!! :)
Here is a render I did on max to get a very general idea of the colors that I want to use as a base for each element...

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1047/renderallabomination05j.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderallabomination05j.jpg)

[Stutts]

Looking good man can't wait to see the textures! :buttrock:

[Silkcats]

HELP!!

I'm almost done with my textures but I want to add some glowing details to my character but I don't know how :rolleyes:...

It may sound pretty dumb but I've never used glowing effects before, I know that you have make a special Glowing map but I don't know which material to use or how to apply it to my shader...

(here (http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/events/3/team4/preview_finals_1_5319.html)is one example of what I want to do)

By the way, I'm using 3DSMax 2009 and MentalRay.

Cheers!!
:beer:

[Stutts]

I would put the glow in the self illumination. hope that helps.

[Silkcats]

Thanks Stutts!! It worked perfectly ( ... I feel pretty dumb now :P)

[MartinNielsen]

Excellent work you have here :) I really like the expression on the riding character :)

[Stutts]

nice work man this little dude ROCKS! :buttrock:

[Silkcats]

Thanks Martin!
Now after two days of painting I'm almost done with the textures and shaders, now I'm just adding some details like veins and stuff and also correcting some little glitches on my normals but over all I feel very happy with the result, I hope you like it !
:beer:
Cheers!

[/url][url="http://www.imagehosting.com/"]http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5761/renderallabomination08j.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderallabomination08j.jpg)

[cptHook]

Excellent work! Very unusual and interesting character.

[Silkcats]

Thanks man, I'm almost done now! :)

Cheers!

[GaeasHerald]

This is very cool, you've done a terrific job. Best of luck

[Silkcats]

Finally after hours and hours of work I finished my Abomination!! :)
I present you: "Geburah" !

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/452/renderallabomination11j.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderallabomination11j.jpg)

[rodia]

YO! felicitaciones!! looks great! but i think you can do much better with the final render...make it more dramatic. Maybe a back light and a stronger main light...detach him more from the background.
nice job! really nice entry.
como va lo del departamento??

cheers! una chela el finde? :beer:

[Stutts]

Nice work man! Geburah Rocks!:buttrock:

[StefanoDubay]

wow silky! u got it....!! watch out tht reflection on the stone is WAAAY too much...
looks good overall tho! i would put a breackup layer on the skin tone tho someting like stone or scratches quickly overlaid just 4 randomness!
how u rendered it BTW?
cheers
S

[primativ]

This is great! I really like the way the riders red eyes turned out.

[MartinNielsen]

Kick-ass result! The texturing really rocks here. I agree, that you could improve the rendering, if you can find the time and strength :)

[Silkcats]

Hey guys!! Thanks a lot for your feedback, I've been working on the story and the rest of the presentation sheets and at the same time trying to get a more "dramatic" lighting to get the best of this creature!! I hope tomorrow I will post a new render but lighting and rendering can be Sooooooo slow some times that I just loose my patience!! I know you know what I'm talking about!!
:beer:

Keep up!!

[Silkcats]

Hi everyone!!

So I followed your suggestions and I tried a more dramatic light and I also reduced the reflection on the stone. I'm quite happy with the result but after so much time looking at the same image I'm afraid I may be loosing my objectivity so it would be nice to have some opinions! :)

Cheers!

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3167/renderallabomination17j.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderallabomination17j.jpg)

[Silkcats]

My last render test...

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5711/renderallabomination18j.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renderallabomination18j.jpg)

[Stutts]

definitely would have to say that I like the latest render the best! Good work though man he's looking great!

[MartinNielsen]

Oh yes! That the stuff. Much better render :)

[NavigatorJones]

wow I love this! looks great! :D

[NavigatorJones]

Thanks for telling me where to get the logo!

[Silkcats]

Ladies and gentlemen, it's done!!

1. Text Image

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6664/dwiv01geburahstory.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dwiv01geburahstory.jpg)

2. Beauty Shot

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1589/dwiv02geburahbeautyshot.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dwiv02geburahbeautyshot.jpg)

3. Presentation Shot

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2218/dwiv03geburahpresentati.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dwiv03geburahpresentati.jpg)

4. Construction Shot

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/604/dwiv04geburahconstructi.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dwiv04geburahconstructi.jpg)

5. Texture Sheets

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4808/dwiv05geburahtextures.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dwiv05geburahtextures.jpg)

6. Concept Image

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7721/dwiv06geburahconcept.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dwiv06geburahconcept.jpg)

[moonangel]

Wow, what a great Entry!
When i saw the beauty shot, i perfectly imagined beeing in a role playing game, running through this dark forest and hearing the strange noises this thing would make, and suddenly seeing it, breaking through the undergrowth. And a cold shower ran down my spine. Amazing!


btw: you say there 4624 and 5530 polys for the single creatures. That would make a total of 10154 Polys. Some Value must be wrong, i suppose.

[Silkcats]

Hey Moonangel! I'm glad you like my entry, it was really a LOT of work so is nice to hear that! And Thanks a lot for the correction !!, It was a typing error, I wrote 5.530 and it was 5.350 so I'm correcting it now :thumbsup:

Cheers!!
:beer:

[Silkcats]

Done! Corrected and updated ! :)

[GaeasHerald]

Well done. This is a perfectly disgusting demon, so it fits the brief perfectly. It's been a pleasure watching all your progress. Best of luck.

[Stutts]

Great job man! I love the beauty shot!:thumbsup:

[Silkcats]

Thanks guys!! I'ts been a pleassure watching the evolution of your projects too!!
Best of luck for you too!!

cheers!!
:beer:

[rattlesnake]

really beautiful work, from the concepts to th final version, very well executed..the texuring is what i like the most. :thumbsup: :cool:

[MartinNielsen]

Congrats :) The beauty shot is very moody and fits the character well :)

[DTRAN]

Now this, this is is just pure magic! I love the look and feel of the character, i love the render with the woods. I can totally see this character and its beast in like some old folklore tale somewhere in europe....why europe? no idea.

*stands and Claps!* Congrats on a fantastic Job!

[Hexahedron]

Really beautiful character and great idea

[FrozZT]

Thats one kick ass entry, you didnt dissapoint.. ;) It feels like it doesnt try to be like everyone else and does it good, I appriciate that. Congrats on finishing this! Good luck with the judging! :)

-Niklas

[DDS]

the colors are awesome. Beauty render sells it well. Great job man!

[Abrvpt]

Excellent entry, sure you'll be in the top 50 ! Bravo ! :D

[Ferx]

Hey Felipe,

Awesome work!! Totally love this concept. The beauty shot is amazing, love that pose with the weaving flag and the great enviroment on it, great!!. You have a great concept, congratulations for this cool finish ! Good luck !! Time for a lot of beer with a lot of tequila shots!! Cheers!! :beer:

[Ataulfo]

Great final images. The beauty looks very good.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Cheers!!:beer:

[Silkcats]

I think this is my last post for DWIV so I just wanted to thank CGSociety and all the people who made comments on my project and help me make it better and encourage me to keep going. I'ts been a pleasure to work surrounded by so much talent and knowledge and I hope I will see you next year for Dominance War V !!

Good luck everyone!!:thumbsup:

Cheers!!
Silkcats:wavey:.

[johnwoo]

Superb Beauty render!...I 2nd the comment about it looks like it could come from a fairytale!....

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