DWIV - 3D - Soggyclog - Untitled

[DTRAN]

These look pretty BA, T! The 3rd image down has something very dark and powerful about it...could it be the dark wings? i dunno but it speaks to me as well as the 6th pic with the "ALT" on it, looks like some demon samurai armour. maybe combine the two? and as for the head? lucky #9.

oh, its about time you posted. now give us more!

[pr0wler]

nice doodles I like body 1 with head 3
goodluck:cool:

[Synectikos]

Hey "T". I really like your exploration with simple geometry. That's pretty cool focusing on value to see what comes up! I am finding the horn shape and style to be difficult myself, so many options...

[paratrooper]

I really like your pencil sketch, feel artistic and beautiful,the best one I have seen so far.
I like No 9, but if you keep developing the no 3, then will be better. Looks great. Cheers.

[polygonhead]

Hey Sogs, I like the second doodle with the huge black wings, be neat to see some transparency with veins and blood vessels. I really like the number 1 head, the wide pitbull style gives it an animalistic primal look. keep it up


PS: love the file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Anne/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpgrorschach style doodles, unique and creative exploration to designing
http://www.sheepish.org/itp/rorschach/images/rorschach.jpg

cheers!

[adriendebos]

It's about time to see your thread T :) You were about to be disqualified ;)
I'm with Lee, I really like your pencil sketches and I can't wait to see your final design!

I also like the fact that you ALT+Print your screens! :D

[smacdonald]

Holy crap man.. these are some super leet skillz. These are definitely some of my favorite ideas I've seen posted. I cant wait to see more form this. What Power in these forms!

[Akiman]

Hey soggy :)

Pretty intense study you have there. :D

I like 2 and 9. I agree 3 is also can be more nice with more study.

Great works! Keep it coming man :D

[Crix Dorius]

Sketching rorschach-style... nice idea ^^

[Dargon]

Hey T! Nice work! Great to see you back in this for another go! Are those screengrabs from Alchemy?

If you're looking for votes, mine's for #8

Ah, another demon. Take that smacdonald!

[Soggyclog]

Thanks for the feedback guys :)

And yes those are from Alchemy.

I'm having the most trouble with coming up with an original body... so i just avoid it and doodle heads instead...

Here are two more produced while trying to take a poo:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/486/heads2v.jpg

[Yin-Shiuan]

Amazing concept dedign!
Really cool!

[DTRAN]

I like these sketches alot. the top head is my fave. The second head is a bit busy in my opinion. I only have one crit for you, i think he looks a bit friendly. maybe more teeth and un-even? But then again...i dont know demons, for all i know he is a nice guy and loves to have bbqs on the weekend and dont tell him you like the chicago bulls...thats adifferent story altogether.

But seriously, this is looking pretty wick!

[Synectikos]

Hey Tamas, a question of curiousity... how big do you actually draw your sketches like these heads? Is the screen size pretty close to the actual sketch size on paper?

Looking very cool! Keep it up. :)

[Soggyclog]

Thanks Shawn! Yeah I'd say theyre fairly close to how they are on screen.. theyre probably a little smaller on paper... thumbnail size... I use a 0.5mm mechanical pencil so you can maybe even judge by the thickness of the lines.

[QuantumPixel]

Quality designs nice work man. see you at the finish line.

[Segvoia]

Pretty impressive work so far. This creature has a sense of mass to me, I didn't catch whether you had decided on a class yet, but I'm thinking demon lord without a doubt.

Head sketches are really nice, you do your best work while on the throne? LOL.

Good work. I look forward to seeing how it progresses.

[BaronImpossible]

I'm tending towards skulls 1 and 5. Also the top one of the pair drawn "while trying to take a poo", although that suggests you're either a supernaturally rapid sketcher or in need of a visit to the ass doctor.

[nellement]

5,7,9 are awesome,really nice explorations with alchemy great great work

[Soggyclog]

Thanks guys!


And yeah I'm aiming for demon lord.

Still thinking of bodies...

Heres an attempt at something non-humanoid shaped which is what I'd prefer... this ones not about the details, it was mostly just to see how a body shaped like this would feel... I'm not too fond of it for many reasons but it might help with future brainstormings...


http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9003/somthnig.jpg

[adriendebos]

Here we are, Tamas the killer is in the place :)
Looks really really cool! That would be a lot of limbs to texture :D
I'm just wondering how his front legs would be able to walk though.
Very nice work, can't wait for more!

[Akiman]

Hi Soggy;
Body looks great! My only critics is behind of the body looks less powerful than front. I cant wait to see some more variations. :D

[SebastianWunnicke]

uuh, weird. the raven like wings are my favourite, in 3D this could be a very impressive character.

[FrozZT]

Hey man! Remember you from last year, very nice work.. Congrats on the placement!
I like what you have going in the last one.. I like how he looks like hes halfway out of a nest/caveopening under his wings, just waiting to jump out and catch you. that could make for some really cool lightplay. The sideview looks dynamic also, need some work maybe, but its just a rough i know. You definately have some nice ideas to keep for further experimentation. Looking forward to whats coming up! Keep it up m8! ;)

-Niklas

[kashivan]

OOOOO!!!
very cool sketches!! :)

[GregStrangis]

Hey Tamas! Cool work man! Awesome entry last year as well, I am sure you won't disappoint this year. I like where this is going but he looks a little too cluttered at the moment, besides that he is a bad ass sketch :p

[aeonseraph]

Impressive :beer:

[hankson]

Hi Soggy,

you're really a creative guy, I like you concepts and I saw you works of DW3
It's so great! good job!

[Ferx]

Hey Tamas,

Really cool sketches and concepts, like a lot your head studies, nice! :D You are working really hard :D Good luck and cant wait to see more updates! Cheers!! :beer:

[APD-Jack]

Crazy sketches they are.. Definitely you have style. I can tell you that. It`s pleasure to watch your progress..

Hope to see you in the finish line...

[smacdonald]

I definitely like where this last one is headed Soggy. It feels really heavy and unique, how close are you to decided on it? Would love to see some models soon on it. Oh and thanks for the input on mine, really helpful.

Cheers!

[DTRAN]

this guy is looking pretty scarey, not to mention he looks like one bad mother! totally feels like a boss character. when are you gonna start sculpting?

[PeterBraeley]

insane work going on here, looking forward to see where this goes, love the sketches!!

[MartinNielsen]

I think you're on the track with the last drawing. Still you need to put some unique elements into the design. Good work so far :)

[darukin]

wow really crazy sketches, u sure got imagination! Would love to see that last one in 3D!
Good luck!

[Soggyclog]

Thanks for the encouraging words and feedback guys! :D

Didn't get to work much on it this past week but I have to kick it into gear.
I've decided to move forward with the last sketch cause I'm running out of time... I started blocking in the model... still very rough... I'm still thinking of what I can do with the legs as theyre bugging me, but we'll see... Will continue doing paintovers and tests now that I have a base...

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9662/model1.jpg

I've painted over the head to try and finalize it's design.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7516/paintoverhead.jpg

[Alicce]

Wow, very interesting concepts, your way to approach the character design is very creative and original!
I'm waiting for the next progresses! Good work!

[Dargon]

Nice to see you back in it T!

The arms in their pose are the nicest bit so far. It's small, but I can see some nice detail that will be fun to work there.

[Akiman]

Looking nice man! Keep it up! :thumbsup: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)

[GregStrangis]

Great update! Nice to see you got it blocked out already for the sculpting fun! The close up sketch of his head looks like he has a rotting mouth=awesome

[adriendebos]

Love the design of the face Tamas! Really really nice :)

[Soggyclog]

Thanks yous!

I'm running out of time and don't really care any more so whatever... going with it as it is... Painted over the legs and body a bit to get a feel for the details... not crazy about it but it'll do...

Going to continue modelling and power through this thing.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3994/paintoverbody.jpg

[xRaZx]

Hi Tamas. Everything is looking great so far. My posts still have a waiting period for the moderator to okay it, so hopefully this reply shows up while it's still valid, lol.


I was thinking, in response to the fact that you seem unsatisfied with the feet/legs, I think you should try scaling up the feet in some way, giving them a wider base. If this guy is really big, which I'm guessing he's supposed to be, he's going to need big, powerful, wide feet to support all that weight. I originally was almost picturing something a bit more hoof-like with a solid flat base, but the way you painted those claw-hooves I think could work too, you just might want to try beefing them up. Or you could go the opposite direction and shrink the feet and lower legs down to skinny pads, making it look more fast and agile, like a spider. Last, maybe some type of single spike talons that stick in the ground? I think they look okay right now, but I think the fact that you seem unssatisfied with the feet might have to do with how they relate proportionally to the legs and the body, and how our brains might be responding to them, as far as what they are telling us about this creature.

You're clearly a great artist so I'm sure you'll polish it up, but I figured I'd just throw this out there to maybe give you a bit more to consider. Keep up the good work.

[vikramvr]

Brilliant sketches, and even better execution, love your progress so far.. Looking forward to more.

[Soggyclog]

Small update... got the head modeled. Also been trying on integrating the logo onto the back but its not looking so hot so I won't post it yet. Might even just settle for using team colours.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9247/modelhead.jpg

[yakonusuke]

Looks promising, I'm curious bout what you come up with in the sculpstage . : )

[Akiman]

looks same as the drawing. Nice progress!:thumbsup: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)

[Segvoia]

Great progress!

You've got some detailing ahead of you to skulpt all those small nooks and cranies and recesses in this creature's skin. I don't know why I assumed this was 2D. I have full confidence you'll get it done, we have a little less than a month to go :thumbsup:

You mentioned you weren't satisfied with the feet, perhaps if you made the pose of the feet more dynamic to add some movement to the sculpt, you could have a foot or two raised or bent at the ankle/wrist bones and flex the toes to show that it's feet are bearing it's enormous weight as it walks.

[DTRAN]

The head looks fantastic! I know the textures and your lighting will make this come alive even more then it is now. Whatever you do, please finish this! TFTW!

[adriendebos]

This is looking hot Tamas. The only thing that bugs me is the triangular shape on the middle of the horns. Could use a poly or two to be smoothed.
Are you planning to open the mouth for the beauty shot for example?
Keep it up! This is sure gonna be awesome in colour! :)

[Soggyclog]

Thanks guys!

Thanks for the advice Segvoia, I'll definately try to do stuff like that when it comes time to pose him.

I added two polies to the ugly horn-triangle Adrien, it does look better, though I think in the final renders we'll be too far to appreciate it's smoothness. And at this point I don't really plan on opening his mouth for any of the renders. It's built to open so I could but I would have to put more detail inside the mouth... I can live with it closed.

Thing is I'm leaving for vacation on the 2nd... so I have to be done everything ten days before the official deadline :surprised

Anyway, got the body torso thing pretty close to modelled, except for the shoulder part and some small tweaks. Tried to integrate the logo onto its back but I had to stretch it etc so you can't even recognize it... looks more like a bug on his back... oh well. No time to change it... next up, legs :)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6629/model4c.jpg

[GregStrangis]

Looking bad ass already! You should totally give him giant bunny slippers, it would add to his persona ;)

[FranciscoAlvarezDelgado]

amazing job so far Soggyclog. I am really curious about your workflow. Do you plan on zbrushing or sculpting this character? if so do you build your low final low poly mesh and then sculpt that?.... do you have any retopology in your workflow?... or are you just going straight to textures? ( wich I suspect are going to be crazy awesome ).
I saw your previous DMW entry and the end result was stunning it had a really nice painted quality to it. Hope you dont mind all the questions man, again great looking stuff and Looking forward to end result.

[polygonhead]

dude, your progressing nicely, the head is wick just like expected. Can't wait to see the brilliance come out with the wings.

PS/ if this is C & C, then i'm not a fan of his hands, maybe the pose or something, but I'm sure your not a fan of my face. LOL

keep it real, keep it tight!

[Synectikos]

That's some good poly usage. I like how you incorporated the CG Society logo into the design on his back.

[paratrooper]

Oh, a lot of progress so far, and it's awesome.
it's really cool specialy the modeling,mesh, well done.
can't wait to see the next updated,
Cheers.:thumbsup:

[Darkra]

your workflow is very inspiring, hell; I'm even inspired to take the day off work and draw :buttrock:

nice design :thumbsup:

[Soggyclog]

Well I had a lot of work and other things the whole week so couldnt really work on this till today. Got the legs modelled... I have to do some heavy optimizing since I miscalculated and need more triangles for the wings than I have left.

FranciscoAlvarezDelgado: Thanks man, yea you pretty much got it right. I'm doing it oldschool where I do all the modelling first, then zbrush it. I do believe the retopologizing method is better for many reasons but my crappy computer would probably die in the process and I find retopologizing to be boring robot work... this way at least I know I won't have any surprises or whatever. My zbrushing wont be overly intricate due to lack of time. I'll only do enough to make the mesh look high res in the final render then add the fine detail in the textures. I prefer to spend most of my time on lighting and rendering as I feel it'll have a way bigger impact on the final image.


http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8048/model5y.jpg

[GregStrangis]

His legs look pretty sweet! I am trying myself to get better with that workflow of building the entire mesh so it does not need retopo, I just feel when you use a blocked in mesh it lets you have a little more freedom incase you decide to change the design up before retopo. Looking forward to seeing the textures on this guy!

[Soggyclog]

Thanks Greg... yeah I agree, the retopo workflow gives you much more freedom and for the most part a much more snug fit between the low poly and sculpt, therefore your projection will in most cases look better. That said I'm not too worried in this case cause I wont be making shape changes in zbrush, only defining smooth areas and sharper edges over the shape thats already there.

[JacquesPena]

No crits today..Massively awesome character! I can imagine the detail on this, very insane. Keep up the good work!:thumbsup:

[DarkBlueArt]

Hello

oh wow, thats a cool low-poly. Is it still in the 10k polycount? Unbelievable to me.
But at the moment he looks a bit more like a small, wicked demon than a powerful demonlord. I hope you have some cool poses for him to set this model in the right mood.

so long

[Alicce]

Good modeling, I like the legs!
can you show the wireframe please?? I'm curious!

Good work!

[Soggyclog]

The models pretty much done. Modeled the wings with placeholder textures. Optimized the legs, i'm at about 9100 tris total, the remainder I will use for "death" fx and thickening up the wing feathers where needed. Its looking kinda thin right now.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9537/model6y.jpg


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2832/model6wing.jpg

Edit:Adding wireframe

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1884/model6wireframe.jpg

[adriendebos]

This is looking super sweet Tamas! I was not expecting feather for his wings, so that's a good surprise. I think it will give him a nice touch, more subtile than bat/dragon wings.
Any idea for the pose yet? Can't wait to see it finished, hurry up! ;)

[DTRAN]

I too didnt think about feathers, I am also surprised. For some reason i see like locusts flying out from this wings and eating stuff....i totally missed this update! Wicked model T!! this character has good volume and gurth to him. Cant wait to see your lighting and textures!

[polygonhead]

really starting to take nice form, i don't even notice the hands as much :)

your always full of surprises dude, feathers i didn't expect either. can't wait to see the final pose.


peace

[Dargon]

I too thought you were doing bat wings, but I'm pleasantly surprised. Feather wings work much better, and will really give an evil presence - keep going!!!

[FranciscoAlvarezDelgado]

Hey Soggyclog thanks a lot for the workflow explanation. I agree with you in a lot of things.. retopo work is boring, I really do not like that part of the process man...
Also awesome textures and lighting can make a good model look incredible.
I also agree with a comment greg made about just having a simple block mesh and sculpting from it gives you a great amount of creative freedom...I just find it a good practice to hear about other peoples workflows, there is a lot to learn from just different aproaches to stuff..thanks again man.
As far as the character goes, great updates man, I like the feather wings..the opacity mask hold up their res pretty well... Really looking forward to textures and the final renders with all the bling on them. Great stuff
cheers

[Soggyclog]

Haha I guess my concept was so crappy that the raven wings didnt come across... Though SebastianWunnicke got it right.

Anyway, been working hard in zbrush... got the head and body sculpt done and projected. Just gotta do the legs then start texturing... or posing... i guess :\ And no I don't have any cool poses in mind, rest assured it'll most likely suck but I don't care, I only have 5 days left so need to focus on other things.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1268/zbrushbody.jpg



And projected onto low poly:


http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2411/modelnormalmapped.jpg

[DTRAN]

I hate you..........no no i dont. I love how your sculpt has the right amount of details where you need it and not all over the place.The head turned out pretty wick! Lighting is looking good! 5 days? my god man, thats a ton of time for you.

[pr0wler]

wow impressive character i really dig it, i would love to see it as a zerg creature in starcraft or something:cool:... really nice! goodluck!

[paratrooper]

you're doing really good job. :)

only one comment,the fist looks human, I think it's because of the length of the arm or the carpus,a bit short.
anyway, good to see your progress.

[Soggyclog]

Thanks for the support guys... In the past few days I normal mapped the legs and started texturing... but unfortunately I've finally accepted that I wont be able to get this done in time. I have essentially 2 free evenings before leaving for Hawaii and I can't do what I want in that time... I might finish it someday just for myself...

Like last year this has been a cool experience that tought me a lot. Good luck and thanks again to you all!

Here's my last update... as you can see it still had a long way to go heh...

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2362/model7.jpg

[Synectikos]

Dude, you are super fast. I recall your last year entry getting done in a matter of days... maybe even hours. You had 4 arms at the time and 3 cintiqs so you could do triple the work. You can do it!

This is great. It came together really quickly. I hadn't realized you did your UV's already and projection mapped everything. Hopefully you take it a little further before you leave!

Cheers

[GregStrangis]

Sorry to hear you got to drop out Tamas :sad: You should definitely finish this bad boy in the future tho! Enjoy the trip to Hawaii!

[paratrooper]

Oh~Looking great the textrue. :)
it must be really busy time before leaving to the vacation.
good luck.

[Silkcats]

Hey Soggyclog!

I've been following all the process of your project and I'm so sorry to hear that you wont be able to finish it for the contest :(
Anyway, it's been great watching the process and I hope you can finish it soon independently of DW.

Cheers!!
:beer:

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