Space Ship: Babylon 5 Whitestar *Crits* *WIP*

[golem]

well... i like the modeling, but quite dislike the shader. you can keep the textures, but sometimes you have to put a kind of noise and dirt, expecially near the bursters.

work a bit more on the shader properties, cause at the moment it looks like no specific material (metal? plastic? whateverelse?) and i can see no specularity.
keep on working

golem

[Kartoffel]

Its quite a while ago, since I watched B5 the last time. But I cant remenber that these ships had those yellow glowing areas.
Somehow it disturbs me.

The moddeling is good but you should try to make more details and somehow it looks like its made of very thin plates.

[DarkB5]

materials are not really my thing the ship has a organic armor skin that is what i was going for maybe it to gloosey ? i need to make it more dirty? maybe?

oh and that ship hade the yellow glow in the show but the ship was normally moving to fast for you to notice it

[golem]

sure, man... don't u assume skin is a bit reflective (fresnel reflection) and has a different diffusion behaviour?

[jampoz]

Please post bigger renders with lighter shadows so we can see all the details better
I can't see much from those renders here, sorry :o(

[JasonA]

Yeah bigger renders would help alot. I liek what I see tho
:buttrock:

[DarkB5]

bigger renders no changes to texture shadows turned off

http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/~darkb5/whitestar/whitestar-t5.jpg http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/~darkb5/whitestar/whitestar-t6.jpg

[jampoz]

Nice, now i really like what I see, really nice concept we got here!

Can you post some ref pictures? I can't remember that ship from B5, maybe this season didn't come to Italy yet or maybe I didn't watch enough episodes
But it's really interesting, wish i could compare with some ref pics taken from the episodes

It looks like, yeah organic, like a snake skin, to me, maybe make it more shiny and bumpy if you want an alien skin effect
Have to look at ref pics anyway...

[DarkB5]

you can find ref of the whitestar here about half way down the page

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/b5/b5tech.htm

[baaah888]

try putting a starry background in the renders, and see what it looks like, it been a while since i saw a whitestar on telly so i can't remember exactly what they look like, but i always remember they looked a little camoflauged in space

[DarkB5]

well i redid all of the materials for the textures trying to make it look more organic and whitestar like i think i got what i was looking for what do you all think?

http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/~darkb5/whitestar/whitestar-t1-new.jpg

[golem]

mmm... still not focused...hope this tip will help you more

organic spaceships are traslucent, more and more glossy and you can recognize something like interior cables, bones and cartilage, glowing muscles and organs.

is not just the idea of skin to make it organic, do yow know what i mean?

so... keep the modeling but make it traslucent and start putting something inside, according with the idea of foetus, veins, spleen, stomach... use noise procedural displacement with fresnel reflection, bla bla bla... use medical references... and so on

ok?

golem

ps: remove the yellow glowing

[DarkB5]

the ship only has organic armor layed on top of the metal hull the organic skin is not totaly alife. the ships is mostly metal

there for there no mussles or hearts or brains or any of that

the yellow glow is part of the whitestar design and will stay

with the information got anymore tips for me ?

more information

The hull of a Whitestar is made up of Vorlon bio-organic technology, thus making a Whitestar a living entity. A Whitestar's organic armored hull is almost impregnable and the vessel has the ability to heal and adapt to most attacks thus far.* With every conflict, the Whitestar develops new countermeasures, developing new ways of protecting its self from attack. No weapon has the exact same effect on a Whitestar twice.

[DarkB5]

was taking a break from yard work and got some ideas and i open max and start changing some things mixing some more stuff swithing some maps around and i think i got what i have been after..


http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/~darkb5/whitestar/whitestar-ts1-new.jpg

have not had time to change all the maps yet but i will get around to it

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