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WanielJorge
07-06-2003, 07:04 AM
:beer: This is my first work in this forum.
I am Brazilian lover of feminine modelling 3d.
This is Gahnja, a prostitute of the world Mad Max
with the Brazilian woman's sensuality.
It would like that criticized my character.:beer:


http://www.elo.com.br/~abpro/G_final%2001.jpg

WanielJorge
07-06-2003, 07:26 AM
:) Still detail more sensual of Gahnja:beer:

http://www.elo.com.br/~abpro/G_nua%2002.jpg

JZA
07-06-2003, 10:12 AM
Nice model, really, a bit corny because of the blatant sexual undertone. The tongue is very off-putting, though, I'd advise you to remove it :)

Otherwise, nice stuff, perhaps the wrinkles in the skin on her fingers are a bit too deep, making it seem as if she's got really old hands, but that is just really nitpicking.

TheGreenGiant
07-06-2003, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by 3D STRONG
[B]:) Still detail more sensual of Gahnja:beer:


Umm.. sensual is the last thing that comes to mind.

I'd say skank.

Her tongue/look is horrifiic. The renders are quite nice and the texturing on the headpiece is quite appropritate although because your car is not good/great, you might want to replace that with ground or a couch instead.

vizion
07-06-2003, 11:28 AM
well i guess that's what a "sensual prostitute" would look like... nice modelling.

WanielJorge
07-06-2003, 01:10 PM
:annoyed: The modelling and the human texture is really complicated.
to try to imitate the Real is not easy task,:rolleyes:

Keiyentai
07-06-2003, 01:49 PM
The texture is amzing but I agree the tongue should go....and her left nipple looks a bit odd :surprised other than that I like it

WanielJorge
07-06-2003, 04:15 PM
:p A new version, without the tongue .:p

http://www.elo.com.br/~abpro/G_final02%20copy.jpg

Meka
07-06-2003, 04:53 PM
It's better than anything i could do for the moment. IMHO I think that you need to get the environement to the same texture detail quality. That car is killing your work and the background blends to much into the caracter.

anyway good work... keep it up :)

WanielJorge
07-06-2003, 05:18 PM
:blush: As I spoke, this work made sequin of a contest aquí in Brazil,
and the intention is to do an atmosphere powders war, half arid high temperature,
perhaps not to get to pass the idea.:shrug:

Keiyentai
07-06-2003, 07:40 PM
Much better man. I like the update.

WanielJorge
07-06-2003, 09:23 PM
A thing that nobody is commenting is the quality (modelling) of the " bum bum " (buttocks) Brazilian; you would like to see comments!!

Pardon, my English is terrible!

Pezz3D
07-06-2003, 09:38 PM
PLZ Alert people of nudity I totally clicked this infront of my family. On the plus side they thought it was real so excellent work, heh.

WanielJorge
07-06-2003, 11:54 PM
:beer: My intention didn't go to attack the users' families, I just want to show a reasonable artistic work. that good that you liked!

Man
07-07-2003, 04:59 AM
her hair is rather odd;you've got to make another car , that one looks like a toy.... well, maybe u should remake the background , looks like a plane with a diffuse map and a bump map at 500( and you used noise for almost everything,it looks strange) you should put the same effort to the whole scene,then it would be much better:D



obs.: ela parece muito com o outro modelo que vc fez...tenta muda isso tambem!

Plays_4_Pants
07-07-2003, 05:00 AM
If you're trying to realistic, artistic or sensual then I believe you failled pretty miserably. I think the big reason for this is the lack of quality in the textures and lighting cause the modelling isn't too bad.:cool:

Premutos
07-07-2003, 06:24 AM
Excellent model, here's what I disliked though:

The eyes - They are really cheesy. They don't fit her AT ALL! They are almost blurrylike, which makes it unreal (atleast to me. Maybe it's just that she has really 'sharp' ( eyes). IMHO, she should have blue eyes. And her left eye is different, it's darker than the right. (Just a little, but it's noticeable. That is probably caused by the lightning.)

The hair - Blurry too, which makes that also very unreal. It doesn't fit her AT ALL

Her right hand - the lightning isn't very good there. =/

The hood of the car - There's no 'hood', looks like it was made from a cardboard box..

Her skirt doesn't fit her. You should add a 'tighter' one. :cool: It's very loose compared to her other clothing.

Her eyebrows do not fit her - They are too high up. (I'm sure you intentionally did this, but I do not like it, I'm afraid.)

Other than that, great job!
:applause:

BiTMAP
07-07-2003, 08:31 AM
now this is pornography, well, trying to be... I remeber somone saying that, but this my friend has no use, serves no purpose accept to drive lust, and well, its actualy REALLY FRIGGEN UGLY.

1. Get rid of leather, make her wear real clothes cover her up
if you want to drive lust, put her in a suggestive but not revealing setup
a dress that covers everything, but froms around the body smoothly.

2. rethink your colours

3. re think your render

4. try something more creative ??

Jhonus
07-07-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by BiTMAP
1. Get rid of leather

Its from the world of Mad Max... where leather reigns supreme.

I think the picture is fine for what it is trying to be. Although the background and car need some work. Also some colour seperation between her body/clothes and the background is needed.

the hair and lighting need some work too. presumably she's in the desert so it needs stronger lighting with sharper shadows. (assuming its day time)

WanielJorge
07-07-2003, 10:20 AM
:beer: I admit that it is being very profitable my participation in this forum, I am learning a lot with you " masters ", and I want to learn much more, so that my work gets better more and more. A hug to all!!!

:applause: Why am liking they are critical true, of people that never looked at my work.
Here in Brazil it is a lot common to person to do a work, and the friends only enter on line to eulogize. this is not good!

rrobert
07-07-2003, 10:29 AM
Hmmmmm... Aren't you a bit frustrated? :p

But overall seen, quite okay.. :p

WanielJorge
07-07-2003, 02:36 PM
:beer: Frustrate!!!???? No. Nobody is perfect: Stahlberg, Roger, Pascal...Those geniuses of the graphic computation one day they also had your criticized works.

Why am liking they are critical true, of people that never looked at my work.
Here in Brazil it is a lot common to person to do a work, and the friends only enter on line to eulogize. this is not good!:thumbsdow

karabo
07-07-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by BiTMAP
...and well, its actualy REALLY FRIGGEN UGLY.

Now comments like that are not constructive and they are not helping anyone. There is no need for disrespectful comments such as that. 3D STRONG was just showing us his work and he simply wanted some constructive crits. So please, let's THINK before we blurt out pointless little inconsiderate remarks like that.

That said, I think that this is a nice piece but cold use some improvement. I think you have some good modeling skills but you just need to take things a little further.
As people have said, the car either needs to go or be improved because I think it hurts the quality of the composition. I think that the whole environment could use improvement to bring it up to the quality of Ghanja model.
I think that her clothes are appropriate because it's meant to be a person from the Mad Max universe and also the facial make-up I think fits well with that theme. While the skin texture is pretty good, I don't think it's quite perfect yet. I'm not good with textures so I'm not the person to advise you on that although I think the texture could use a specular map if you don't already have one.
The scene could, however, benefit from better lighting because right now the lighting doesn't do it jutstice. I think that better lighting will immediately show a marked improvement.
The Ghanja model is great and you modeled it well. Keep us posted on your progress, I'm interested in seeing this one completed.

gmask
07-07-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by 3D STRONG
:p A new version, without the tongue .:p

http://www.elo.com.br/~abpro/G_final02%20copy.jpg

This is the first time I have to say ROTFL.. hey why don't you put like a giant splif in her mouth since her name is gahnja.


I think everybody else has pretty much covered the aestetics of this piece.. The background in this mucho work... the textures are low res and messy. I think you need to pull back on your color saturation.

So is she like the super prostitute or what? I trying to see something positive in this otherwise objectional portrayal of a female. Maybe you should work on a super pimp next..

WanielJorge
07-13-2003, 09:30 AM
:beer: Congratulations to all for they be in any way helping each other me to develop my work, even with positive critics or negatives (that is the case of some Brazilian that are only posting to despise my work) I will continue posting at this forum that is the best of CG of the planet. thank you.:beer:

virgulino
07-18-2003, 05:46 PM
Great job !!!!:applause: :applause:

Sou iniciante no 3d, vc. poderia me passar alguns sites de tutorial, ou indicar alguma bibliografia.

Bonito trabalho de verdade !!!

bRyaN2003
07-18-2003, 06:26 PM
Projeta é muito bom..

Somente trabalhe nos problemas mencionados e seu pedaço será excelente

Sorry my portugese is poor...Keep working at it bro....

De onde em Brasil são você?

Eridan
07-18-2003, 07:21 PM
3D Strong, check out how you are writing her name: in the last image the title is "Ganhja" and on the car it's written "Gahnja"... ;)

Other than that, nice (and brave) work, even if the background and car are little less quality than her :)

Wonderer
07-18-2003, 08:23 PM
Good looking girl, but a little two much punk for my taste.

Just kiding! Nice work with the modeling, though I would work better in the textures as mentioned in the other posts.

Keep on!:beer: :thumbsup:

BiTMAP
07-19-2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by karabo
Now comments like that are not constructive and they are not helping anyone. There is no need for disrespectful comments such as that. 3D STRONG was just showing us his work and he simply wanted some constructive crits. So please, let's THINK before we blurt out pointless little inconsiderate remarks like that.


Well I did, and I was a bit direct about it. But the point is, the model (if it was a woman) is not very pretty, and that is a perfectly fine point to make.

Also on other scales, why did u make this peice? is there any reason? why would she be naked? and really, Why would anyone want to look a fairly pornographic 3d image? I mean its art if it serves some perpose, but the way that this image is portrayed with her pose, attire and the way her body language is, its over the top and over done. you could have done much more by not showing as more, and by a slightly diffrent attire. For the most part, this image promotes a bad sexual objectivity (pun intended) of women.


Also i think the actual nipples are too far up on the breast...

freedik
07-19-2003, 01:16 AM
I really like this work. Well, the first picture, it was a bit too "sensual", but the second is good. Does it have crappy textures? Can't say because I'm not a CG expert (at least not yet :P). They look good enough to me. But the fact is that this character really is what you meant her to be. And it's not a pretty butterfly, she's a bish. And so is life. Somehow I don't see any hostile replies to bloody-massacred-mutilated characters posted on these forums. But thats another story.

In other words, nice and original work IMHO. And it has some CHARACTER, which I can't say about most works here.

Keep it up.

sevenfingers
07-19-2003, 01:37 AM
For Christ's sake, she's a prostitute... last time I checked they weren't sensual... just after your money (and the buyer after the best bang for the buck).

So nevermind the comments about covering her up (even though you would most likely have to pay to see her boobs.... they're running a business after all), instead, work on the textures as suggested.... and perhaps try to fiddle with the antialiasing, it looks overly sharp.

The main reason you textures look icky is the fact that the bump maps are so low res. Perhaps you could try to work with some procedurals?

Nice to see someone not afraid to touch politically incorrect subjects... she even looks rather happy (albeit a bit stoned... which I guess suits here... name being Gahnja and all.)

gmask
07-19-2003, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by sevenfingers
For Christ's sake, she's a prostitute... last time I checked they weren't sensual... just after your money (and the buyer after the best bang for the buck).


I think the idea is that she is a character in the world of MAD MAX or ROAD WARRIOR. That being the case unless she had some weapons or other protection I doubt she'd be too successful at trading fuel for sex. At least not with the band of roving lunatics MAX had to fight in either of those movies.

WanielJorge
07-20-2003, 01:39 PM
:beer: :beer: I say all that I am developing enough with the critics, and my next works will be very better. I guarantee.

:rolleyes: Oh! gmask, improve the avatar, it is very strange.

a hug.

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